N99 stuttttttering in corners

I've been doing a little experimenting with N99. Using Bristol day track, I noticed stuttering in the corners. When using this new track in my "old" version of N2, hey no stuttering! When turning "Objects" to "None" in N99, no stuttering. Leads me to assume that there is a glitch in the way N99 draws the objects, or places the objects. Anybody else come to any conclusions, or uneducated guesses? system: P166, 80meg, V1000 video, DMA and 4bit enabled. Jody Huggins

Hello I guess I am not the only one that noticed that too at Bristol. At night I get the same thing :-o) I also experienced it at Texas (coming out of turn 4), and maybe Homestead. Still playing the game when I get the time....I'm going to see if this is the situation with other tracks. Do you think it s the increased number of objects thats causing this? Ed

Well that is a good sign. It even happens to the Rendition people :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >I've been doing a little experimenting with N99. >Using Bristol day track, I noticed stuttering in the corners. >When using this new track in my "old" version of N2, hey no stuttering! >When turning "Objects" to "None" in N99, no stuttering. >Leads me to assume that there is a glitch in the way N99 draws the >objects, or places the objects. Anybody else come to any conclusions, or >uneducated guesses? >system: > P166, 80meg, V1000 video, DMA and 4bit enabled. >Jody Huggins

i have a suspicion that the new prf file that you are supposed to use to enable 4 bit textures does not work quite right. after a while of fumbling around i found out that you need to actually add the -4 and maybe the -dma flags to the batch file. oh by the way, i had the same problem. the rendition can't handle the 16 bit graphics so well.here is the bat file lines for nr1999r.bat rem smackply nr1999.smk /U1 /N nr1999r.exe -dma -4 there are also some graphical glitches using the 4bit textures as you will find out. no slowdowns though.

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>I've been doing a little experimenting with N99. >Using Bristol day track, I noticed stuttering in the corners. >When using this new track in my "old" version of N2, hey no stuttering! >When turning "Objects" to "None" in N99, no stuttering. >Leads me to assume that there is a glitch in the way N99 draws the >objects, or places the objects. Anybody else come to any conclusions, or >uneducated guesses? >system: > P166, 80meg, V1000 video, DMA and 4bit enabled. >Jody Huggins

Same problem with the Portland track. Thought it was the computer (Intel P5-166). Voodoo 1, 32MB+ RAM (can't remember exactly). -- Don Hancock |I've been doing a little experimenting with N99. |Using Bristol day track, I noticed stuttering in the corners. |When using this new track in my "old" version of N2, hey no stuttering! |When turning "Objects" to "None" in N99, no stuttering. |Leads me to assume that there is a glitch in the way N99 draws the |objects, or places the objects. Anybody else come to any conclusions, or |uneducated guesses? |system: | P166, 80meg, V1000 video, DMA and 4bit enabled. | |Jody Huggins

It isn't the increased objects that are causing this, because my original N2 executable runs the new enhanced tracks just fine with no slowdown.

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> Hello > >>Using Bristol day track, I noticed stuttering in the corners.<< > I guess I am not the only one that noticed that too at Bristol. At night I get > the same thing :-o) > I also experienced it at Texas (coming out of turn 4), and maybe Homestead. > Still playing the game when I get the time....I'm going to see if this is the > situation with other tracks. Do you think it s the increased number of > objects thats causing this? > Ed

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>i have a suspicion that the new prf file that you are supposed to use to >enable 4 bit textures does not work quite right. after a while of fumbling >around i found out that you need to actually add the -4 and maybe the -dma >flags to the batch file. oh by the way, i had the same problem. the >rendition can't handle the 16 bit graphics so well.here is the bat file >lines for nr1999r.bat >rem smackply nr1999.smk /U1 /N >nr1999r.exe -dma -4

...snip Charlie Heath addressed this & the Win 9x Rendition Problem in a post to TEN.games.simulation.Nascar... ______________________________________________________ "Make sure to cut out the leading SPACE character on that line, so the -4BIT- line of text has no leading whitespace. If you still have problems, send me an email and I'll try to help you out. Sorry we couldn't get a native Windows Rendition version of NR1999. The problem was that original N2 Rendition rasterizer goes direct to hardware, so it couldn't be ported to Windows; we would have had to do a complete rewrite. The 3dfx version was much easier to do, because it uses the glide.dll libraries, so it was possible to port the 3dfx rasterizer to Windows without having to start from scratch. - Charlie Heath / Papyrus" __________________________________________________________ Brian

I'm not good with computer stuff , can someone please explain to me in DUMMY terms what i need to do to fix the stuttering problem? Thank you, Dave

Try editing the .bat for NR1999, Add the -4 to the end of the command line and it should get rid of that problem... -/- WW

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>I've been doing a little experimenting with N99. >Using Bristol day track, I noticed stuttering in the corners. >When using this new track in my "old" version of N2, hey no stuttering! >When turning "Objects" to "None" in N99, no stuttering. >Leads me to assume that there is a glitch in the way N99 draws the >objects, or places the objects. Anybody else come to any conclusions, or >uneducated guesses? >system: > P166, 80meg, V1000 video, DMA and 4bit enabled. >Jody Huggins

I tried this but I get no sound when i run it from the batch file I'm useing the 3dfx ver so I added -4 to the nr19993d.bat file and tred to run it from the bat file and get no sound then go back and ron it from the .lnk file that it creates from the install and it works fine (the sound) but still stutters in the turns,I'm I missing something here ? mike gillie

I don't think the 4bit command works in 3dfx mode

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> I tried this but I get no sound when i run it from the batch file I'm useing > the 3dfx ver so I added -4 to the nr19993d.bat file and tred to run it from the > bat file and get no sound then go back and ron it from the .lnk file that it > creates from the install and it works fine (the sound) but still stutters in > the turns,I'm I missing something here ? > mike gillie > >Try editing the .bat for NR1999, Add the -4 to the end of the command line > >and it should get rid of that problem... > >-/- WW

-4 is to load 4-bit textures for the rendition card *ONLY*. It is not intended for 3dfx. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com says... >I tried this but I get no sound when i run it from the batch file I'm useing >the 3dfx ver so I added -4 to the nr19993d.bat file and tred to run it from the >bat file and get no sound then go back and ron it from the .lnk file that it >creates from the install and it works fine (the sound) but still stutters in >the turns,I'm I missing something here ? >mike gillie >>Try editing the .bat for NR1999, Add the -4 to the end of the command line >>and it should get rid of that problem... >>-/- WW

>I tried this but I get no sound when i run it from the batch file I'm useing >the 3dfx ver so I added -4 to the nr19993d.bat file and tred to run it from the >bat file and get no sound then go back and ron it from the .lnk file that it >creates from the install and it works fine (the sound) but still stutters in >the turns,I'm I missing something here ? Mike....Add these 3 lines at the end of your NR1999.INI file for an 8mb 3dfx card: ; 3dfx specific preferences N2FXAA 2 N2FXLOAD=0X200000 This cured the stuttering problem on my machine. *** Tim Wortman *** NASS '98 Series Director *** Visit 4CDS.COM *** Official Sponsor of NASS98