Confused about toe-in

Negative = wheels pointed inwards, toe-in. This should help steday that pair of wheel, however as with all setups options, this can depend on other variables like camber, spring settings etc. For instance, apparently (at least on real cars) negative camber (top of wheel angled inwards) produces camber thrust which reduces the need for as much toe-in, and in some cases requires toe-out to compensate. Sorry if this just muddied the waters furhter! Ben Coleman...hey, you stole my initials!!

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>I'm a bit confused about toe-in, and am using "4 Wheel Drift" and >Data's GPL Setup Guide as references. The 2 seem to conflict and my >testing doesn't seem to reveal much indication one way or the other. >According to the somewhat obtuse book that comes with GPL, +ve toe-in >is when the wheels are turned in somewhat. Apparently this steadies >the car on a straight line. >According to Julian's setup guide, wheels pointed inward is -ve >toe-in. Hmm... >I'm pretty sure Julian's got it backwards but when I set the front >toe-in on a BRM GP car to a full -ve 0.5", the car was still steady on >a straight line, as it was with +ve 0.5" toe-in. >So, what's the verdict? >Thanks, >Bill.

Positive toe-in points the front of the wheels towards each other in GPL, negative points them out. You can live with some negative toe-in (front out) on the front wheels, but on the back it definitely makes it squirrely in a straight line, especially at speed. There are errors in Julian's set-up guide. I'd be somewhat careful about how closely you follow it. Kevin Caldwell Calgary, Canada

How about that, I stand corrected....you never can trust net content! Ben >Positive toe-in points the front of the wheels towards each other in GPL, >negative points them out. You can live with some negative toe-in (front out) >on the front wheels, but on the back it definitely makes it squirrely in a >straight line, especially at speed. >There are errors in Julian's set-up guide. I'd be somewhat careful about how

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>closely you follow it. >Kevin Caldwell >Calgary, Canada >>Negative = wheels pointed inwards, toe-in. This should help steday that >>pair of wheel, however as with all setups options, this can depend on

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>>variables like camber, spring settings etc. For instance, apparently (at >>least on real cars) negative camber (top of wheel angled inwards) produces >>camber thrust which reduces the need for as much toe-in, and in some cases >>requires toe-out to compensate. >>>According to Julian's setup guide, wheels pointed inward is -ve >>>toe-in. Hmm... >>>I'm pretty sure Julian's got it backwards but when I set the front >>>toe-in on a BRM GP car to a full -ve 0.5", the car was still steady on >>>a straight line, as it was with +ve 0.5" toe-in. >>>Thanks, >>>Bill.

On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:37:54 +1100, "Ben Coleman" >Negative = wheels pointed inwards, toe-in. Is this true? Negative Toe-IN = Positive Toe-OUT and Positive Toe-IN = Negative Toe-OUT --Keith "Coming in 2nd place just means that you are the first to lose!"