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Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us poor limeys? Paul

Just say no to V.A.T.. Three cheers for (relatively) free trade. Steve B.

Hi, And then of course there's the fact that our US chums don't pay phone bills! Sometimes we pay up to around 750-800 pounds for a year. They pay, what, around 150 dollars? My Herc Thriller cost me 200 pounds, I've seen it on US sites for about 120 dollars..... Everything is cheaper over there! Although we do have the advantage of fewer TV ads..... Cheers! -- Graeme Nash You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"... http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/ ICQ# 11257824 "My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

Even with 17 and a half per cent VAT that doesn't account for the more than doubling in prices. And I believe that there are also sales taxes in the US Paul

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> >Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > >than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > >even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. > Just say no to V.A.T.. Three cheers for (relatively) free trade. > Steve B.

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> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard > on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have > to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's > not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we > pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there > but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us > poor limeys? > Paul

Sounds like a IMPORTING/EXPORTING TAX thing within the U.K that is causing the problem. How are American Cars priced vs. UK Cars? Bill / Amish on TEN

God knows what GPL costs over there Well, I paid $45 for GPL (Plus sales tax of about $3) But since it hasnt been a huge succes, I allready saw GPL marked down to $35. In a few months it should be like Soda Offroad Racing, where I waited 2 months after release and purchased a copy for $12...and worth every penny. JT

Pay back?

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> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard > on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have > to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's > not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we > pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there > but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us > poor limeys? > Paul

But at least you get paid less in Britain to compensate for the higher costs :) I don't know how you survive. I was looking into a few lectureship positions in the U.K. that would pay *less* than I am earning now as a student. Sad. Stephen

Ha ha ha I live in SOUTH America... I paid US$140 for GPL (60% + 18% +US$8,00 of import taxes). This puts an end to the whole conversation...

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>Hi, >>Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars >>than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that >>even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard >>on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have >>to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's >>not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we >>pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there >>but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us >>poor limeys? >And then of course there's the fact that our US chums don't pay phone >bills! Sometimes we pay up to around 750-800 pounds for a year. They >pay, what, around 150 dollars? >My Herc Thriller cost me 200 pounds, I've seen it on US sites for about >120 dollars..... >Everything is cheaper over there! Although we do have the advantage of >fewer TV ads..... >Cheers! >-- >Graeme Nash >You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"... >http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/ >ICQ# 11257824 >"My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

I paid $53 for MGP. I ordered it from GamePlayUK so don't feel so bad. :-) Ubi just announced that it can be ordered from their site for $49.95 too. David G Fisher >Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars >than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound.

You get all the worthwhile culture and plenty of Formula One. We get commercialized pseudo-slavery and a diluted sense of reality mutated by imm***capitalistic exploitation. Look at this way, you (meaning the rest of the world) can still thumb your noses at our ***ic society while retaining your very cool accents! The least we can do is take some of your money! ::) Erik -- "The only motivation that makes you go race-after-race, travel-after-travel, is winning." -Ayrton Senna da Silva

We're still pissed off about the time that you burnt our capitol. Just trying to collect reparations :-). -- Doug Gordon (remove "nospam" from e-mail address) >Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars >than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that >even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard >on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have >to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's >not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we >pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there >but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us >poor limeys? >Paul

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> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard > on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have > to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's > not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we > pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there > but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us > poor limeys? > Paul

All that you say may be true....HOWEVER....we can't even GET Colin McRae Rally for PSX and THAT SUCKS. Over here, most of the (so called) motorsports fans prefer to watch 'bubba racin' where these (mostly) middle aged fat boys drive cars in circles for hours. For real racing, you had better get Speedvision or plan on seeing a 30 second highlight (if that) on FSN or ESPN (the nascar channel) I am guessing that Codemasters is probably a Euro company given that the only available CMR is in PAL format. -- Matt Manspeaker Penn State Aerospace Engineering (Aerodynamics) Formula SAE Shop Manager/Engine Builder/Driver

my monthly phone bill for basic service is $25 US, about a half days wages. my internet access is another $40, so I work about 10 hours just so I can read this newsgroup. Geeeeze , I feel pretty stupid

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> Hi, > >Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > >than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > >even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard > >on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have > >to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's > >not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we > >pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there > >but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us > >poor limeys? > And then of course there's the fact that our US chums don't pay phone > bills! Sometimes we pay up to around 750-800 pounds for a year. They > pay, what, around 150 dollars? > My Herc Thriller cost me 200 pounds, I've seen it on US sites for about > 120 dollars..... > Everything is cheaper over there! Although we do have the advantage of > fewer TV ads..... > Cheers! > -- > Graeme Nash > You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"... > http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/ > ICQ# 11257824 > "My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

LOL. Also(I think it was Britian) we're still pissed at you about the whole British Impressment ordeal. Racer X Veteran Sim Racer Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

Don't get us started on car prices, its cheaper to go over the channel , buy one in europe somewhere and pay the import tax than actually buying one in the UK! Robin. -- http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk Nurburgring and Grand Prix Legends Remove nospam from e-mail address to reply >> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars >> than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that >> even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard >> on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have >> to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's >> not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we >> pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there >> but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us >> poor limeys? >> Paul >Sounds like a IMPORTING/EXPORTING TAX thing within the U.K that is >causing the problem. How are American Cars priced vs. UK Cars? >Bill / Amish on TEN

Pay back for what exactly? Robin. -- http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk Nurburgring and Grand Prix Legends Remove nospam from e-mail address to reply >Pay back? >> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars >> than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that >> even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard >> on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have >> to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's >> not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we >> pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there >> but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us >> poor limeys? >> Paul

I don't remember doing that. I must have been drunk sorry! :o) -- http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk Nurburgring and Grand Prix Legends Remove nospam from e-mail address to reply

Yikes, I paid 35.00 when it came out at EB. Sounds like the others just marked it down to where it should have been priced to start with. -- Don Burnette Palmetto Racing Dburn on Ten AOLL Iroc Administrator >Well, I paid $45 for GPL (Plus sales tax of about $3) But since it hasnt >been a huge succes, I allready saw GPL marked down to $35. In a few months >it should be like Soda Offroad Racing, where I waited 2 months after release >and purchased a copy for $12...and worth every penny. >JT

Oh come on Paul, it could be worse. After all, we may have to pay higher prices and all that but at least we don't have to live there..... ;-) Cheers! John On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:25:58 +0000, Paul Jones

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>Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars >than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that >even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard >on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have >to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's >not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we >pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there >but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us >poor limeys? >Paul

About the same - your price in dollars is our price in pounds. Cheers! John

Here in North America everone is force fed NASCAR, I think software companys price non-Nascar racing titles lower than NASCR titles. That is good for me, because I don't really like NASCAR racing compaired to open wheeled racing. Brian

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> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard > on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have > to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's > not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we > pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there > but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us > poor limeys? > Paul

If it make you feel any better here is what I paid for my VW Passat TDI 110 hp estate in Norway. $ 37.780 22.500 GPL cost 36 / $60 here -Jan Otto

Sorry. Feeble attempt at a little political humor. I was thinking about the difference in the price of tea in England and the colonies a while back.

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> Pay back for what exactly? > Robin. > -- > http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk > Nurburgring and Grand Prix Legends > Remove nospam from e-mail address to reply > >Pay back? > >> Why is it that every product software or hardware is cheaper in dollars > >> than pounds when there are around 1.7 dollars to a pound. It seems that > >> even with software imported from Europe you get a cheaper deal. I heard > >> on this ng that someone was getting MGPRS2 for 24 dollars when we have > >> to pay 35 pounds for it - that's 2 and a half times the price and it's > >> not even released in the US. The MS FF wheel costs 169 dollars but we > >> pay 200 pounds - twice the price. God knows what GPL costs over there > >> but it costs us 35 pounds. What, have all you suppliers got it in for us > >> poor limeys? > >> Paul

>Oh come on Paul, it could be worse. After all, we may have to pay >higher prices and all that but at least we don't have to live >there..... ;-) >Cheers! >John Stirring the pot again, eh John? That's okay, I've heard about the food on your side of the pond. :o) Todd

> to watch > 'bubba racin' where these (mostly) middle aged fat boys drive cars in > circles for hours. LOL Paul

A bit dated, aren't we? ;) > Sorry. Feeble attempt at a little political humor. I was thinking > about the difference in the price of tea in England and the colonies a > while back. -- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simracing.com/ * Switch confused.net with concentric.net to reply...Confused-yet? *

when released.

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> Yikes, I paid 35.00 when it came out at EB. Sounds like the others just > marked it down to where it should have been priced to start with. > -- > Don Burnette > Palmetto Racing > Dburn on Ten > AOLL Iroc Administrator > >Well, I paid $45 for GPL (Plus sales tax of about $3) But since it hasnt > >been a huge succes, I allready saw GPL marked down to $35. In a few months > >it should be like Soda Offroad Racing, where I waited 2 months after > release > >and purchased a copy for $12...and worth every penny. > >JT

-- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simracing.com/ * Switch confused.net with concentric.net to reply...Confused-yet? *

How much for a Quarter Pounder? ;) > Big Mac Combo UK 4.99 Pounds... -- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simracing.com/ * Switch confused.net with concentric.net to reply...Confused-yet? *

HA! :o BTW, how much $ was that long-distant call for the SRN-Hawaii race? ;) > After all, we may have to pay > higher prices and all that but at least we don't have to live > there..... ;-) -- Marc J. Nelson SimRacing Online - http://www.simracing.com/ * Switch confused.net with concentric.net to reply...Confused-yet? *

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