Getting Lapped

First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years of home racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, there are alot of serious people doing this, me included. My quetion is. It seems like the leader wwhen putting me or someone a lap down wants you to pull over and die. Personally if I can race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my therory is if he's fast enought to take it have at it. But the whinnning......... Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he punts me and takes out 3 other cars. Personally, I guess it's a racing deal!! But then he says I should have moved over thats why he spun me. BS, there was only 3 of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. Next question. How do you type or chat while driving, besides the hot keys?? 2 screens?? How do you come up with passwords for the pasworded servers, besides Blademans, which wants money, I guess. Thanks, See ya around Bill D Dockmaster #18 -- Bill D Pensacola, FL

"BD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years of home > racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, there are alot of > serious people doing this, me included. My quetion is. It seems like the > leader wwhen putting me or someone a lap down wants you to pull over and > die. Personally if I can race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my > therory is if he's fast enought to take it have at it. But the > whinnning......... Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) > started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at > the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls > up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he > wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around > me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he > punts me and takes out 3 other cars. Personally, I guess it's a racing > deal!! But then he says I should have moved over thats why he spun me. > BS, there was only 3 of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. > > Next question. How do you type or chat while driving, besides the hot > keys?? 2 screens?? > > How do you come up with passwords for the pasworded servers, besides > Blademans, which wants money, I guess. > > Thanks, See ya around > > Bill D > Dockmaster #18 > > > > > > -- > Bill D > Pensacola, FL

Ok, first off don't pay attention to what people say online because most of them are kids and they aren't as serious as you might be. Just race and have fun! However, there are some great racers online, most of them being in leagues, but not necessarily. The passworded servers are usually leagues or just private groups of people. There are a lot of good leagues out there to get involved in, find a good one with good people and stick with it, even if it is small. I use the T button to type, but it takes skill to get good at typing while racing, I usually just race and type very little. Ignore arguing, some people are morons. Just race clean and have fun. If you think you should let a guy by, let him go. I just use the philosophy that if they can stay on my bumper for more than a lap I'll let 'em by. Shock

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> > First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years of home > racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, there are alot of > serious people doing this, me included. My quetion is. It seems like the > leader wwhen putting me or someone a lap down wants you to pull over and > die. Personally if I can race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my > therory is if he's fast enought to take it have at it. But the > whinnning......... Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) > started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at > the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls > up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he > wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around > me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he > punts me and takes out 3 other cars. Personally, I guess it's a racing > deal!! But then he says I should have moved over thats why he spun me. > BS, there was only 3 of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th.

Well, personally I'd never race the leader once he's caught up with me, meaning, once he's on my rear bumper I'll give him the inside line as long as long as my own racing situation allows me to do so without losing a position It's not like I'd drive off the track to let him pass, but I wouldn't make it difficult for him in any way Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > > BD wrote: >> >> First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years >> of home racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, >> there are alot of serious people doing this, me included. My >> quetion is. It seems like the leader wwhen putting me or someone >> a lap down wants you to pull over and die. Personally if I can >> race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my therory is if he's >> fast enought to take it have at it. But the whinnning......... Am >> I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) started out with >> about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at the end >> (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls >> up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the >> top if he wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he >> cant get around me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some >> slower traffic, he punts me and takes out 3 other cars. >> Personally, I guess it's a racing deal!! But then he says I >> should have moved over thats why he spun me. BS, there was only 3 >> of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. > > Well, personally I'd never race the leader once he's caught up > with me, meaning, once he's on my rear bumper I'll give him the > inside line as long as long as my own racing situation allows me > to do so without losing a position > > It's not like I'd drive off the track to let him pass, but I > wouldn't make it difficult for him in any way > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx-- >

Inside line, outside line; what's the diff? As long as you pick a line and stay with it -- no moving back and forth so the poor guy can't figure out which way to go -- I'd say you are doing all you can. If you've saved your tires and he hasn't, and you can now go as fast as he can, then I'd say you need not make any effort to slow down and move out of his way. Of course, guys will want to punt _me_ into the weeds for saying that. (The car you're in _never_ has any problem going faster if only the idiot in front would move out of the way! <g>) It is a sad fact of life that the open races _tend_ to have people who are too little or too much serious about their racing. As someone else has suggested, try finding a league and getting to know the people you race with. If you can't find one on your own, try asking in the chats before and after races online. As you can tell by the number of passworded races, there are a fair number of leagues out there. Good luck! -- Darryl

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> Goy Larsen wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > >> >>BD wrote: >> >>>First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years >>>of home racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, >>>there are alot of serious people doing this, me included. My >>>quetion is. It seems like the leader wwhen putting me or someone >>>a lap down wants you to pull over and die. Personally if I can >>>race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my therory is if he's >>>fast enought to take it have at it. But the whinnning......... Am >>>I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) started out with >>>about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at the end >>>(after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls >>>up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the >>>top if he wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he >>>cant get around me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some >>>slower traffic, he punts me and takes out 3 other cars. >>>Personally, I guess it's a racing deal!! But then he says I >>>should have moved over thats why he spun me. BS, there was only 3 >>>of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. >> >>Well, personally I'd never race the leader once he's caught up >>with me, meaning, once he's on my rear bumper I'll give him the >>inside line as long as long as my own racing situation allows me >>to do so without losing a position >> >>It's not like I'd drive off the track to let him pass, but I >>wouldn't make it difficult for him in any way >> >> >>Beers and cheers >>(uncle) Goy >>"goyl at nettx dot no" >> >>http://www.theuspits.com >> >>"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" >>--Groucho Marx-- >> > > > Inside line, outside line; what's the diff? As long as you pick a > line and stay with it --

Well said. Hold your line! It's as simple as that. -- Gerry Aitken© ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer. - Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16 This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by a fish called Colin.

In a race without pits and especially yellows, I'd say you should lift and let the leader by. Good manners and, more importantly, a lot safer for you. If he has 2nd place breathing down his neck you are going to be really pissing him off. If you are in a battle for position though, that's a different story. Remember, in the not too distant future you may be in a position to win so...................... "BD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years of home > racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, there are alot of > serious people doing this, me included. My quetion is. It seems like the > leader wwhen putting me or someone a lap down wants you to pull over and > die. Personally if I can race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my > therory is if he's fast enought to take it have at it. But the > whinnning......... Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) > started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at > the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls > up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he > wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around > me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he > punts me and takes out 3 other cars. Personally, I guess it's a racing > deal!! But then he says I should have moved over thats why he spun me. > BS, there was only 3 of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. > > Next question. How do you type or chat while driving, besides the hot > keys?? 2 screens?? > > How do you come up with passwords for the pasworded servers, besides > Blademans, which wants money, I guess. > > Thanks, See ya around > > Bill D > Dockmaster #18 > > > > > > -- > Bill D > Pensacola, FL

My 2cents on all this. Yes, there are a few wreckers out there.. not as many as there use to be. Most of what we now consider " wreckers " are in patient people who feel they have to go from 20th to first before the first turn. They think they have the fastest car on the track because their tires will stick the first 3 laps when everyone else is dirt tracking the turns for a few laps. Usually these are the people causing all the problems. They do not know how to check up or hold a line. Gonna stop because I could go on for days about all the smacktards racing.. As for letting the leading pass. He's shouldn't have punted you. He was pissed because he wasn't fast enough to get around and felt.. " how dare a lapper not move for me ". hehehehe..kids... that guy was being a jackass....worse part about it is.. they will never say - i'm sorry...they will put the blame all on you..lol..ugh.. kids..adult's too.. There are a number of ways I look at it. If you know the leader will race you clean, make him work for it. Give him the outside lane, but usually that's not the case. From what I've experienced over the years is..If your on the inside there's a 98% chance the leader will punt you to the wall so I usually get out of the way pick up on the draft and hopefully , with drafting the leaders, pick up a position or two. Usually letting a leader pass is a gentlemen's agreement. Leaders are not the only ones who punt you... you have to watch, there are tons of kids out there who feel they need to lead the draft because they don't understand the cars behind the lead draft are faster then the lead draft car..however, they maybe able to pass, but they may not have a good lead draft car which will hurt the group...Usually when drafting you have to have some sort of agreement as to who has the fastest lead draft car and go with it. It may take a few laps but if ya find out who has the fastest lead draft car the pack will take off and be able to run down the leaders or lap the field. Back during the N4 days and even some races with N2002 we would draft most of the race and race the last 5 or 10 laps.. talk about some fun racing... To chat while racing press T. Stick to the hot keys - "BD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years of home > racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, there are alot of > serious people doing this, me included. My quetion is. It seems like the > leader wwhen putting me or someone a lap down wants you to pull over and > die. Personally if I can race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my > therory is if he's fast enought to take it have at it. But the > whinnning......... Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) > started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at > the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls > up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he > wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around > me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he > punts me and takes out 3 other cars. Personally, I guess it's a racing > deal!! But then he says I should have moved over thats why he spun me. > BS, there was only 3 of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. > > Next question. How do you type or chat while driving, besides the hot > keys?? 2 screens?? > > How do you come up with passwords for the pasworded servers, besides > Blademans, which wants money, I guess. > > Thanks, See ya around > > Bill D > Dockmaster #18 > > > > > > -- > Bill D > Pensacola, FL

I haven't raced online in a while because my 1.2ghz machine just don't hack it with the sims that are being played alot. In reference to you question I think racers should police themselves the way the officials would if they were actually present. It sounds to me as if you would have been warned for blocking and then actually given a penalty for it if REAL NASCAR officials had been present. That is my bottom line I guess. While I personally would have done nothing different than you did, I still think that we should all treat our actions as though we are being moitored by the real deal. "Dirtmojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VkMXb.25816$[email hidden]... > My 2cents on all this. Yes, there are a few wreckers out there.. not asmany > as there use to be. Most of what we now consider " wreckers " are in > patient people who feel they have to go from 20th to first before thefirst > turn. They think they have the fastest car on the track because theirtires > will stick the first 3 laps when everyone else is dirt tracking the turns > for a few laps. Usually these are the people causing all the problems.They

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> do not know how to check up or hold a line. Gonna stop because I could go > on for days about all the smacktards racing.. > > As for letting the leading pass. He's shouldn't have punted you. He was > pissed because he wasn't fast enough to get around and felt.. " how dare a > lapper not move for me ". hehehehe..kids... that guy was being a > jackass....worse part about it is.. they will never say - i'm sorry...they > will put the blame all on you..lol..ugh.. kids..adult's too.. > > There are a number of ways I look at it. If you know the leader will race > you clean, make him work for it. Give him the outside lane, but usually > that's not the case. From what I've experienced over the years is..If your > on the inside there's a 98% chance the leader will punt you to the wall so

I > usually get out of the way pick up on the draft and hopefully , with > drafting the leaders, pick up a position or two. > Usually letting a leader pass is a gentlemen's agreement. > > Leaders are not the only ones who punt you... you have to watch, thereare > tons of kids out there who feel they need to lead the draft because they > don't understand the cars behind the lead draft are faster then the lead > draft car..however, they maybe able to pass, but they may not have a good > lead draft car which will hurt the group...Usually when drafting you haveto > have some sort of agreement as to who has the fastest lead draft car andgo > with it. It may take a few laps but if ya find out who has the fastestlead > draft car the pack will take off and be able to run down the leaders orlap

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> the field. > > Back during the N4 days and even some races with N2002 we would draft most > of the race and race the last 5 or 10 laps.. talk about some fun racing... > > To chat while racing press T. Stick to the hot keys - > > > > > "BD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > First off, started online racing about a week ago (after 5 years of home > > racing) and am hooked. Besides the wreckers and kids, there are alot of > > serious people doing this, me included. My quetion is. It seems like the > > leader wwhen putting me or someone a lap down wants you to pull over and > > die. Personally if I can race him clean and stay on the lead lap, my > > therory is if he's fast enought to take it have at it. But the > > whinnning......... Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) > > started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at > > the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls > > up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he > > wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around > > me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he > > punts me and takes out 3 other cars. Personally, I guess it's a racing > > deal!! But then he says I should have moved over thats why he spun me. > > BS, there was only 3 of us on the lead lap. Oh well, finshed 5th. > > > > Next question. How do you type or chat while driving, besides the hot > > keys?? 2 screens?? > > > > How do you come up with passwords for the pasworded servers, besides > > Blademans, which wants money, I guess. > > > > Thanks, See ya around > > > > Bill D > > Dockmaster #18 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill D > > Pensacola, FL > >

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:49:59 -0500, "Therron Thomas" <[email hidden]> wrote: >In reference to you question I think racers should police themselves >the way the officials would if they were actually present. >It sounds to me as if you would have been warned for blocking and then >actually given a penalty for it if REAL NASCAR officials had been >present. NASCAR gives a blocking warning if you clearly change lines in an attempt to block someone who has already committed to making a pass. If you run a consistent line, either high all the way around, low all the way around, or the standard high entry/low apex/high exit line then you won't be penalized by NASCAR. Does NASCAR give blue flags anymore? I can't remember the last time I've seen one, and it seems like they typically just let the lapped cars race with the leaders. Jason

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> Am I wrong. I was in 3rd and the race (the Rock) > started out with about 32 drivers, but came down to 8 of us running at > the end (after all the wrecks). At about lap 25 of 40 the leader pulls > up behind me, so i decide to run the low line and give him the top if he > wants it or can take it. Well for about 7 to 8 laps, he cant get around > me (saved my tires). Well when we come up on some slower traffic, he > punts me and takes out 3 other cars.

I can't speak for the gubber who was behind you, but had I been racing with you I'd have used you and drafted behind you to get away from the second place car. As long as you weren't blocking, I'd follow you around.