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GPL: driving w/ clutch

4 posts by 2 people · 06 Nov 1998 - 07 Nov 1998

MeatWater 06 Nov 1998#432827
Is this me being so damn tired or do the cars behave different when the sim is configured to have an analog clutch? It happens very often now that when I am downshifting to enter a slower turn WITHOUT using the pedal clutch, the tail end starts coming around. I even thought that I was using the wrong setup, but nope, everything was just like yesterday, 'xept my lap times are worse for two seconds!!! What is this?
On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 03:24:16 +0100, "Mea***er" >Is this me being so damn tired or do the cars behave different when the sim >is configured to have an analog clutch? It happens very often now that when >I am downshifting to enter a slower turn WITHOUT using the pedal clutch, the >tail end starts coming around. I even thought that I was using the wrong >setup, but nope, everything was just like yesterday, 'xept my lap times are >worse for two seconds!!! What is this? Before I say anything else, I use a Thrustmaster GP1 so I've never tried GPL with a clutch pedal. However, it sounds like you've lost the benefit of the computer's double declutching. I remember that on the original Watkins Glen GPL demo I would often (very often!) spin out on the final turn after downshifting to second or first gear. One of the first things I noticd about the release version of GPL was how the computer automatically blipped the throttle between downshifts. Although there have been a lot more changes from the demo than that, I've found this semi-automatic gearbox makes the car a lot more stable under braking/downshifting. I suppose you're going to have to learn how to heel and toe if you want to keep your clutch pedal. This isn't such a bad thing, really! Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!
MeatWater 06 Nov 1998#432829
Moses. Learn the heel 'n' toe thing? Isn't this hard enough? So how should I downshift then?
: Moses. Learn the heel 'n' toe thing? Isn't this hard enough? So how should I : downshift then? Again, let me state that this is only a theory as I've never actually used a clutch in GPL. When going into a turn, brake using the front portion of your foot (as you normally do). Clutch in-downshift-blip throttle with rear portion of your foot-clutch out. Repeat procedure for each downshift. During this entire motion your right foot is still pressing on the brake pedal. If you've ever seen the movie "Grand Prix" (I highly recommend it if you haven't) there is great footage of Phil Hill's and Jo Bonnier's feet working the pedals. I suppose double declutching in GPL would be something that borders on major-pain-in-the-ass and rewarding-once-you-know-how. Since I've never experienced it first hand I can't tell you which category it falls under! Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!

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