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Papyrus REPLY please

18 posts by 18 people · 04 Nov 1998 - 09 Nov 1998

D Canto 04 Nov 1998#432469
Can someone from Papyrus please advise us why so many people are experienceing freezes, if it's a GPL problem and is there a fix in the works?
I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going on. Randy
James Bev 04 Nov 1998#432471
Er, "me too", except my machine has a VoodooI Orchid Righteous, so please don't restrict your testing to VoodooII-equipped machines! thanks James >I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes >my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the >background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of >3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or >my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the >case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. >We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot >get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of >obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once >we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going >on. >Randy -- James Bevan NeXTMail & MIME welcome
: I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes : my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the : background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of : Randy If it's any help, I removed the Diamond Video Control Panel from the System Tray and it stopped doing it. In fact, I cleaned up my system tray, so only the Monster Sound M80 mixer utility was present there. I don't use Win95/98 DUN, so that's never resident. My hunch is that it's a call to an area where some resident system tray utility is doing something.
Sue 04 Nov 1998#432473
I have an idea about what is causing this. Are any of you using an A3D sound card? Specifically I noticed this problem with a DCS S805 A3D PCI sound card installed. I tried the original drivers from DCS, updated drivers from DCS, and the reference A3D drivers. Nothing helped the freezes. There were numerous other problems as well besides GPL. Needless to say, but this card is going back and I do not recommend it. Went back to AWE64 and the problem disappeared. I have also tried a Turtle Beach Montego, and while the freezes didn't appear, and the sound quality is good, the controls went to hell. On my system at least the AWE 64's game port is much better than the Montego, DCS S805, or TM ACM card, which by the way, was a great surprise to me. Win98 GPL retail Rendition mode Thriller 3D PCI 4mb Celeron 450a 128mb T.I. PC-100 SDRAM also has Linksys LN 2 PCI Ethernet card Monster 3D II 12mb, latest Diamond drivers > Can someone from Papyrus please advise us why so many people are > experienceing freezes, if it's a GPL problem and is there a fix in the > works? -- Matt Howell **to respond please use "mracer" at "mindspring dot com"
Quoted text (11 lines)> I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes > my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the > background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of > 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or > my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the > case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. > We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot > get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of > obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once > we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going > on.
On my machine it's possibly a silly combination of V2 drivers and Logitech MouseWare 8.0x. I had the demo working with MouseWare, probably added new V2 drivers (don't have a log ;^), demo froze. Replaced MouseWare with the standard mouse driver, demo worked again... l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Quoted text (12 lines)>: I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes >: my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the >: background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of >: Randy >If it's any help, I removed the Diamond Video Control Panel from the >System Tray and it stopped doing it. In fact, I cleaned up my system tray, >so only the Monster Sound M80 mixer utility was present there. I don't use >Win95/98 DUN, so that's never resident. >My hunch is that it's a call to an area where some resident system tray >utility is doing something.
We do ALL close all not imperitive applications before starting a race don't we? Or have I been getting just a little CPU resource neurotic for my next upgrade?
Andy Jones 05 Nov 1998#432732
The only problem I had with the demo on mine was the video locking when the screensaver kicked in. Now, who really needs a screensaver ? No probs since. Andy
Quoted text (31 lines)> > I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes > > my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the > > background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of > > 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or > > my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the > > case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. > > We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot > > get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of > > obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once > > we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going > > on. > On my machine it's possibly a silly combination of V2 drivers and > Logitech > MouseWare 8.0x. I had the demo working with MouseWare, probably added > new > V2 drivers (don't have a log ;^), demo froze. Replaced MouseWare with > the > standard mouse driver, demo worked again... > l8er > ronny > -- > Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, > kiddo?" > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Jason Monds 05 Nov 1998#432733
I even disable my Task scheduler (in Win95 Plus or Win98). It launches programs at a given time.
Quoted text (12 lines)> <snip> > >If it's any help, I removed the Diamond Video Control Panel from the > >System Tray and it stopped doing it. In fact, I cleaned up my system tray, > >so only the Monster Sound M80 mixer utility was present there. I don't use > >Win95/98 DUN, so that's never resident. > >My hunch is that it's a call to an area where some resident system tray > >utility is doing something. > We do ALL close all not imperitive applications before starting a race > don't we? Or have I been getting just a little CPU resource neurotic > for my next upgrade?
-- -------- Jason Monds (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
Tony Jo 05 Nov 1998#432734
I have the same problem using a Canopus Total 3D (Rendition Verite' 1000 chip) in a P200MMX machine. So, it's not just V2 cards. The screen locks up after about 10 minutes of racing. Did the same thing with the demo version. The game continues "behind the screen". I know from the sounds of tires squeeling and crashing into the fence. Glad to hear you guys are working on it. Keep us posted! I''d be glad to work with you if it would help. Thanks, Tony Joy joyaw at ibm dot net (you know what to do here)
Quoted text (9 lines)> I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes > my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the > background because I can hear the world march on. <snip> Once we get that > machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going on. > Randy > > Can someone from Papyrus please advise us why so many people are > > experienceing freezes, if it's a GPL problem and is there a fix in the > > works?
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john moore 05 Nov 1998#432735
I have experienced a similar freeze once with a thriller! figure that one out...
Quoted text (19 lines)> I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes > my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the > background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of > 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or > my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the > case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. > We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot > get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of > obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once > we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going > on. > Randy > > Can someone from Papyrus please advise us why so many people are > > experienceing freezes, if it's a GPL problem and is there a fix in the > > works?
Neil Yeatma 05 Nov 1998#432736
Quoted text (11 lines)> I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes > my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the > background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of > 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or > my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the > case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. > We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot > get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of > obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once > we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going > on.
I suffered this problem until I replaced my motherboard and CPU. OLD NEW P2-233 P2-300A (Celeron) Abit LX6 Abit BH6 1x64 Mb PC100 1x128 Mb PC100 Bus: 66-83Mhz Bus: 100Mhz The problem occurred at all bus speeds: 66, 75, and 83. The upgrade was a drop in: Remove mobo and CPU and replace. No new drivers, no new software, no OS changes whatsoever. Canopus Pure3DII Voodoo2. It works great now. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
Grant Reeve 06 Nov 1998#432977
> I have the same problem using a Canopus Total 3D (Rendition Verite' 1000 chip) > in a P200MMX machine. So, it's not just V2 cards. > The screen locks up after about 10 minutes of racing. Did the same thing with > the demo version. The game continues "behind the screen". I know from the > sounds of tires squeeling and crashing into the fence. is it 10 mins exactly, evrey single time? it could be your screensaver kicking in. if so, try turning the screen saver off, but if it's not that then don't mind me:) Grant.
Bart Westra 06 Nov 1998#432978
Is your screen saver set at a 10 minute interval? >I have the same problem using a Canopus Total 3D (Rendition Verite' 1000 chip) >in a P200MMX machine. So, it's not just V2 cards. >The screen locks up after about 10 minutes of racing. Did the same thing with >the demo version. The game continues "behind the screen". I know from the >sounds of tires squeeling and crashing into the fence. >Glad to hear you guys are working on it. Keep us posted! I''d be glad to work
Quoted text (12 lines)>with you if it would help. >Thanks, >Tony Joy >joyaw at ibm dot net (you know what to do here) >> I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and
sometimes >> my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the >> background because I can hear the world march on. <snip> Once we get that >> machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going on. >> Randy
Mark Fisher 06 Nov 1998#432979
Hi Randy, I am using a V2100 rendition video card, Diamond Stealth S220, I have experienced this freezing twice now ~<GG>, just to add a further complication. Cheers Mark
Quoted text (19 lines)>I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes >my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the >background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of >3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or >my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the >case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. >We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot >get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of >obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once >we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going >on. >Randy >> Can someone from Papyrus please advise us why so many people are >> experienceing freezes, if it's a GPL problem and is there a fix in the >> works?
Simon Pa 07 Nov 1998#433138
I'd hate to be the one trying to sort THIS problem out! With me, it started happening when I changed MB, CPU and VII card but there are so many other people with all sorts of OTHER configurations exibiting the same problems! This is probably the best sim released this year (or any other) and I was just statrting to get good lap times after 500 laps of Monza. Now I'm having to practise in my own car on public roads. PLEASE GET THIS SORTED BEFORE I KILL SOMEONE! Simon Page. Please remove the usual from my address to reply! Simon Page Dereham Computer Services D2 Computer Services [link lost in import]
Larry 07 Nov 1998#433139
Add Monster Truck Madness II and PowerBoat Racing to the list... It seems the most reliable game I play on the Monster II is Viper Racing! November 22nd is just around the corner :) -Larry > I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes > my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the > background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of > 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my system or > my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the > case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem.
Jim Harm 09 Nov 1998#433502
Quoted text (12 lines)>> I suspect you're referring to the "I'm using a Voodoo2 card, and sometimes >> my screen stops updating, but the game clearly continues to run in the >> background because I can hear the world march on. I've tried every set of >> 3Dfx drivers I can get my hand on, I'm not overclocking either my >system or >> my Voodoo2 board, I've tried underclocking the Voodoo2 board, opening the >> case, blowing fans at the machine, etc. Nothing seems to help." problem. >> We do not yet know what is causing the problem, mostly because we cannot >> get any machine we have in-house to exhibit it. We're in the process of >> obtaining a machine that exhibits this behavior from a GPL customer. Once >> we get that machine in our offices, we can try to figure out what's going >> on.
I had similar lockups when I installed a yamaha waveforce sound card. I went back to my SB16 and haven't had a lock up since. I assumed it was a problem with the sound card driver. oh, I have a rightous 3d (voodoo) BTW. Hope this helps. Jim Harmon

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