Cheesy sound in Monaco Grand Prix

>>Is it just me or is the sound really ***in F1RS2? I've got a SBLive with 4 >>point surround and my mate has a PCI64 with Dolby Surround. Both our sounds >>are about the same. Lousy. Anyone else care to comment :0) > I agree with you, doesn't sound F1, but someone mentioned that it is really >what an F1 engine sound to the driver with their helmet and earplugs on...who >knows... I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

>>>Is it just me or is the sound really ***in F1RS2? I've got a SBLive with

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>4 >>>point surround and my mate has a PCI64 with Dolby Surround. Both our >sounds >>>are about the same. Lousy. Anyone else care to comment :0) >> I agree with you, doesn't sound F1, but someone mentioned that it is >really >>what an F1 engine sound to the driver with their helmet and earplugs >on...who >>knows... >I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the >Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. >-- >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

I think they sound great. Is amazing to hear a F1 car zoom by a camera. Those things sound good

Lots of sound patches were made for F1RS. I am suprised MGP2 doesn't sound any better. Lutrell :-)

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>>>>Is it just me or is the sound really ***in F1RS2? I've got a SBLive >with >>4 >>>>point surround and my mate has a PCI64 with Dolby Surround. Both our >>sounds >>>>are about the same. Lousy. Anyone else care to comment :0) >>> I agree with you, doesn't sound F1, but someone mentioned that it is >>really >>>what an F1 engine sound to the driver with their helmet and earplugs >>on...who >>>knows... >>I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of

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>>Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. >>-- >>Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > I think they sound great. Is amazing to hear a F1 car zoom by a camera. >Those things sound good

It does sound better, it's just that the engine sounds are not what people expect. As before, people seem to expect the engine sound to be like what they hear on TV, but it's not like that at all. As someone said earlier, this is a realistic sound from within a***pit with a helmet on!

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>Lots of sound patches were made for F1RS. I am suprised MGP2 doesn't sound >any better. >Lutrell :-) >>>>>Is it just me or is the sound really ***in F1RS2? I've got a SBLive >>with >>>4 >>>>>point surround and my mate has a PCI64 with Dolby Surround. Both our >>>sounds >>>>>are about the same. Lousy. Anyone else care to comment :0) >>>> I agree with you, doesn't sound F1, but someone mentioned that it is >>>really >>>>what an F1 engine sound to the driver with their helmet and earplugs >>>on...who >>>>knows... >>>I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of >the >>>Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. >>>-- >>>Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>>cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >> I think they sound great. Is amazing to hear a F1 car zoom by a camera. >>Those things sound good

I like the sound a lot in MGP. Much improved IMO over F1RS. David G Fisher

> I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the > Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. Hey, you noticed this too. Sounded to me like the car was inside a tunnel all the time. Way to go Mika!

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> > I agree with you, doesn't sound F1, but someone mentioned that it is > really > >what an F1 engine sound to the driver with their helmet and earplugs > on...who > >knows... > I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the > Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren.

I have a suspicion that the engine sounds are somehow filtered for TV so they don't mess the commentators' speech. Sounds like some of the lower frequencies are out. However, I've only heard GT cars live. I still can't believe F1 cars sound like damn electric vehicles on steroids. -- Anssi Lehtinen

>I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the >Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. I heard that too. Sounded like it was in a tunnel. Made me wonder if they were dubbing that in themselves. Heh. -- http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1 http://www.off-road.com/~fusion1 (dirt bikes, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)

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> > > I agree with you, doesn't sound F1, but someone mentioned that it is > > really > > >what an F1 engine sound to the driver with their helmet and earplugs > > on...who > > >knows... > > I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the > > Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. > I have a suspicion that the engine sounds are somehow filtered for TV so > they don't mess the commentators' speech. Sounds like some of the lower > frequencies are out. However, I've only heard GT cars live. I still can't > believe F1 cars sound like damn electric vehicles on steroids. > -

Well, they kind of do. Just imagine the most seering, high pitched whine you can, add the sound of sandpaper on wood, then amplify ten times (or more), and you'd be getting close to the sound of a real F1 pulling 10 000rpm.....

> Well, they kind of do. Just imagine the most seering, high pitched whine > you >can, add the sound of sandpaper on wood, then amplify ten times (or more), and >you'd be getting close to the sound of a real F1 pulling 10 000rpm..... Curiously, In my experience, the modern F1 car is not loud enough. Comparing the noise of the Current F1 field to the wonders of the FIA Cup for Throughbred GP Cars field, and you are easily left with the conclusion that they sound better- and louder. Current F1 cars can go suck eggs, noise wise. Z.

>> I agree. Who really knows? The american F1 feed (Fox sports channel) of the >> Japan GP featured absolute shit sound for the Mclaren. >Hey, you noticed this too. Sounded to me like the car was inside a >tunnel all the time. Agreed. I was embarrased my wife had to sit through that :-) And yes congrats to Mika!!!! -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Both the highs and the lows are filtered. Or perhaps more correctly clipped. And no they certainly dont sound like electric vehicles...for comparison the GT cars sound like electric vehicles compared to formula 1.....but hey I love the sounds of both. PAPA DOC Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Pink Flamingo Pilot... http://home.earthlink.net/~plegrand/PINKFLAMINGO.htm

Well I havent heard Monoco Sim yet but just wanted to say that a Formula 1 car is one of the most chilling, loud, exciting, loud, sounds I have ever heard. It literally sends shivers up your back....and its not just the exhaust but all the accompanying sounds as well. I think its gonna be difficult to do it properly. Also I would have an extremely hard time believing that that sound is very much dimmed by a helmet mere inches away from the intake and exhaust. For the record it doesnt sound anything like TV....if the only time you have heard a Formula 1 car is on TV then you will be in for a serious ass kicking shock. The closest so far at achieving the combination of ***, obnoxious, glorious, thrilling sound of a Formula 1 car is .....you guessed it...Grand Prix Legends. PAPA DOC >It does sound better, it's just that the engine sounds are not what people >expect. As before, people seem to expect the engine sound to be like what >they hear on TV, but it's not like that at all. As someone said earlier, >this is a realistic sound from within a***pit with a helmet on! Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Pink Flamingo Pilot... http://home.earthlink.net/~plegrand/PINKFLAMINGO.htm

> Also I >would have an extremely hard time believing that that sound is very >much dimmed by a helmet mere inches away from the intake and exhaust. I don't. If they are specifically designed to include noise muffling, they can do the job. But are they? That, I'll agree with. The sound on TV is nothing like live.

Yes of course...I wrote that late and wasnt thinking...the ear plugs will be very effective. Still if it were me doing the sim I would want to attempt to capture the rawness of the Formula 1 engine. Realism be damned because its one of the most thrilling sounds ever. And if done correctly would almost sell the sim by itself. PAPA DOC Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Pink Flamingo Pilot... http://home.earthlink.net/~plegrand/PINKFLAMINGO.htm

Agreed. Ubisoft really needs to hire a talented sound engineer. The sound of F1RS is terrible. And I don't just mean the samples were terrible (they were), but the actual sound code that modulates pitch, etc., is terrible, too. I'm reading from reviews that the sound in MGP2 is similarly bad. That's a shame. Oh well, I'm not budgeting any time or hard disk space for that sim anyway. GPL is too good, and I still only have the demo :-) Jarrod Smith The Scripps Research Institute http://www.scripps.edu/~jsmith

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>Still if it were me doing the sim I would >want to attempt to capture the rawness of the Formula 1 engine. >Realism be damned because its one of the most thrilling sounds ever. >And if done correctly would almost sell the sim by itself. >PAPA DOC >>I don't. If they are specifically designed to include noise muffling, they

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>>do the job. But are they? >>>For the record it doesnt sound anything like TV....if the only time >>>you have heard a Formula 1 car is on TV then you will be in for a >>>serious ass kicking shock. >>That, I'll agree with. The sound on TV is nothing like live. >Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand >Pink Flamingo Pilot... >http://home.earthlink.net/~plegrand/PINKFLAMINGO.htm

Somebody posted a message a few weeks ago about a file for MGPRS2, which had the ferrari sound from GPL converted to run with MGP. I cant remember the link now, but I installed the sound and altered the volumes to suit my taste. IMO absolutely brilliant, not quite as good as in GPL but far better than the standard sounds in MGP. Oh, just found the link : http://homepage.tinet.ie/~expatjen/MGP.htm find the file named Ferrari MGP.zip, or go direct from this link : http://homepage.tinet.ie/~expatjen/Ferrari_MGP.zip -- Ian Parker ICQ# 21772592 >Yes of course...I wrote that late and wasnt thinking...the ear plugs >will be very effective. Still if it were me doing the sim I would >want to attempt to capture the rawness of the Formula 1 engine. >Realism be damned because its one of the most thrilling sounds ever. >And if done correctly would almost sell the sim by itself. >PAPA DOC >>I don't. If they are specifically designed to include noise muffling, they can >>do the job. But are they? >>>For the record it doesnt sound anything like TV....if the only time >>>you have heard a Formula 1 car is on TV then you will be in for a >>>serious ass kicking shock. >>That, I'll agree with. The sound on TV is nothing like live. >Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand >Pink Flamingo Pilot... >http://home.earthlink.net/~plegrand/PINKFLAMINGO.htm

Jarrod Smith wrote Yepo. If you people REALLY want to hear how a formula1 car REALLY sounds.. Check out http://www.boers.com/ Go to the F1 section. Download those 2 *.mp3 files When you finished downloading them, crank your speakers to the max. I said to the MAX. that's ALL TO THE TOP. Now go into your Win95 sound control panel and crank up *.WAV and master volume to the MAX. I said MAXIMUM ;) Now play the sound. Stay less than 1 meter from the speakers. Be prepared also to buy a new pair of speakers after hearing the sound hehehe. This is how a Formula1 car sounds when your on the track. Nothing less... It's a lifetime experience ;) - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

>Jarrod Smith wrote >>Agreed. Ubisoft really needs to hire a talented sound engineer. The sound >>of F1RS is terrible. And I don't just mean the samples were terrible (they >>were), but the actual sound code that modulates pitch, etc., is terrible, >>too. I'm reading from reviews that the sound in MGP2 is similarly bad. MGPRS2's sound is significantly better in one regard, when you back off the throttle, it doesn't instantly sound as if you are at idle. I've also noticed that it sounds a bit more interesting from the out of***pit (toggle f2) views (though no real simmer would use those :-)) Ya know, I laughed when I saw that they sold F1-sounds CD's when I was at the Canadian GP. But that mp3 hauntingly brings it all back. It sounds absolutely awesome.