Fighter Sim Group?

Hi, What is the best fighter sim NG?

roger that go here: comp.sys.ibm.pc.flight-sim lead out "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:vIWyj.60921$[email hidden]... > Hi, > What is the best fighter sim NG? > >

to be exact: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games-flight-sim "Fritz" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:47cc4a9c$0$10996$[email hidden]...

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> roger that > > go here: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games-flight-sim > > lead out > > > "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:vIWyj.60921$[email hidden]... >> Hi, >> What is the best fighter sim NG? >> >> > >

[email hidden] (Fritz) wrote: > comp.sys.ibm.pc.games-flight-sim Sadly though there aren't many flight sims to discuss any more, and the group's been very quiet for a long time. Some of us still keep an eye on it though, just in case something arrives which *is* worth discussing. Andrew McP

On Mar 4, 4:46 am, [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote: > Sadly though there aren't many flight sims to discuss any more, and the > group's been very quiet for a long time. Yea. Pretty much everything since Falcon 3 has sucked :) Pat Dotson

In article <ca2b097b-c755-40e8-8c20-edc927a181d5 @e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden] says... > On Mar 4, 4:46 am, [email hidden] (Andrew > MacPherson) wrote: > > Sadly though there aren't many flight sims to discuss any more, and the > > group's been very quiet for a long time. > > Yea. Pretty much everything since Falcon 3 has sucked :) I think DI's Tornado was released after Falcon 3. And you do not want to suggest to Andrew MacPherson that Tornado sucks... ;-) Ian -- Ian Riches Bedford, UK

On Mar 4, 11:31 am, Ian Riches <[email hidden]> wrote: > @e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden] says... > > > Yea.  Pretty much everything since Falcon 3 has sucked :) > > I think DI's Tornado was released after Falcon 3.  And you do not want > to suggest to Andrew MacPherson that Tornado sucks... I probably still have a set of Tornado diskettes around somewhere. It was good and I flew it a bit. Never got heavily into it, probably because of racing sims. Actually, I did get deep into EF2000, which was post-F3. That's the last combat flight sim I really pursued. I'd love to fly it even now. I wonder how well it would run on a current computer with unaccelerated graphics? I've tried to get into the various versions of Falcon 4 over the years, but it just takes too much time - not only to learn the systems, but to fly missions. Not much instant gratification compared to online racing :) Pat Dotson

[email hidden] (Ian Riches) wrote: > And you do not want to suggest to Andrew MacPherson that > Tornado sucks... It's ok, I've been taking the pills and attending an anger management course. I can now tolerate the idea that some people (especially non-Brits) might not have been 100% bowled over by DI's religious experience in the form of software. I have less tolerance for those who didn't feel the earth move when GPL was released. :-) Andrew McP

"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] (Ian Riches) wrote: > > I have less tolerance for those who didn't feel the earth move when GPL > was released. :-) Well, as someone who DID feel the earth move when GPL was released (anybody remember "The Apex"?) , let me ask this: Of the old combat sims, which ones are worth having? Maybe I could find them on Ebay or something. Thanks!

Tony Jester wrote: > Hi, > What is the best fighter sim NG? > > The forums at www.simhq.com are healthy and the flight-sim usenet group is pretty much dead.

[email hidden] (Tony Jester) wrote: > Of the old combat sims, which ones > are worth having? How long is a piece of string? :-) The trouble with older sims is they're a heady cocktail of nostalgia, unfulfilled expectations, and outdated hardware. Usually they work better in memory than RAM. ;-) You can have a lot of free entertainment via Underdogs though... http://www.the-underdogs.info/genre.php?id=8 Some games will require dosbox and sacrificing chickens to get running, but that's half the fun. Andrew McP

[email hidden] (Tony Jester) wrote: > Of the old combat sims, which ones > are worth having? Oh, I forgot to mention one of my all time favourites, Hind. It has an arcade mode which is a lot of fun, and is still probably the best attempt at putting soldiers into a flight sim. You even get to transport them around. http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=511 Sadly, as with so many sims (did I hear someone say GPL2?), there was never a sequel to build on excellent foundations. It does work in WinXP, but without sound (for me) or joystick control. Andrew McP

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:45:39 -0800 (PST), [email hidden] wrote:

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> On Mar 4, 11:31ï¿œam, Ian Riches <[email hidden]> wrote: > I've tried to get into the various versions of Falcon 4 over the > years, but it just takes too much time - not only to learn the > systems, but to fly missions. Not much instant gratification compared > to online racing :) >

FalconAF isn't half bad with all the addons, skins and so on out there. I'd suggest checking out www.frugalsworld.com to get you started on what's available. I agree about the endless ingress / egress times during campaign missions in F4:AF though, I guess it simulates the "hours of boredom followed by moments of terror" aspect of modern warfare quite well. cheers, uwe

Well, that site is full of great information. Unfortunately, it's also a spyware haven. Be careful what you click on! All those smiley's, cursors, screensavers, etc... are harbors for spyware/adware. -Larry "Uwe Schï¿œrkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:47d137f9$[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:45:39 -0800 (PST), [email hidden] wrote: >> On Mar 4, 11:31 am, Ian Riches <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> I've tried to get into the various versions of Falcon 4 over the >> years, but it just takes too much time - not only to learn the >> systems, but to fly missions. Not much instant gratification compared >> to online racing :) >> > > FalconAF isn't half bad with all the addons, skins and so on out > there. I'd suggest checking out www.frugalsworld.com to get you > started on what's available. I agree about the endless ingress / > egress times during campaign missions in F4:AF though, I guess it > simulates the "hours of boredom followed by moments of terror" aspect > of modern warfare quite well. > > cheers, uwe

Andrew MacPherson wrote: > > Oh, I forgot to mention one of my all time favourites, Hind. It has an > arcade mode which is a lot of fun, and is still probably the best attempt > at putting soldiers into a flight sim. You even get to transport them > around. That was a great one! Second best DI sim after you-know-which-one. I remember I was a bit sceptical to the primitive Hind, compared to their previous Apache sim. But when I actually tried it, it turned out to be much more fun :) And as you say, the infantery-modelling was probably the best put into any flight sim yet. > Sadly, as with so many sims (did I hear someone say GPL2?), there was > never a sequel to build on excellent foundations. Yes, too bad there never was any follow-up. Though I am making a new 3D cockpit for the Hind in EECH, and hopefully I'll be able to resurrect some of the gameplay from Hind also :) -- am

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> How long is a piece of string? :-) The trouble with older sims is they're > a heady cocktail of nostalgia, unfulfilled expectations, and outdated > hardware. Usually they work better in memory than RAM. ;-) > > You can have a lot of free entertainment via Underdogs though... > http://www.the-underdogs.info/genre.php?id=8 > Some games will require dosbox and sacrificing chickens to get running, > but that's half the fun. > > Andrew McP

I just installed Jane's F15 and F18 to XP. I have F15 working with glide emulation on my 8800GT using a glide wrapper. Both work great still and no graphics glitches in F18 like the last time I tried it on XP with an ATI video card.

Larry wrote: > Well, that site is full of great information. > > Unfortunately, it's also a spyware haven. I've been a member there for years and have never seen any spyware.

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:46:43 -0500, Larry wrote:

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> Well, that site is full of great information. > > Unfortunately, it's also a spyware haven. Be careful what you click on! > All those smiley's, cursors, screensavers, etc... are harbors for > spyware/adware. > > -Larry >

Never noticed that, probably due to the fact I'm running Firefox on Linux with noscript and adblock. The first thing you want to do on frugalsworld is disable signuature displays in the forum, though. Looks like folks over there like their sigs as large or larger than their egos ;-) All the best, Uwe --

It's not the site. It's certain advertisements. Be careful. -Larry "Backspace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nEwAj.60791$pM4.5101@pd7urf1no... > Larry wrote: >> Well, that site is full of great information. >> >> Unfortunately, it's also a spyware haven. > > I've been a member there for years and have never seen any spyware.

Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > Never noticed that, probably due to the fact I'm running Firefox on > Linux with noscript and adblock. Yep, that's what I use too. Cuts way back on the signal to noise ratio on web sites.

[email hidden] (Arne Martin Guettler) wrote: > Though I am making a new 3D cockpit for the Hind in EECH, > and hopefully I'll be able to resurrect some of the gameplay > from Hind also :) Very interesting Arne! :-) If anyone reading this thread hasn't looked at EECH (Enemy Engaged: Comanche v Hokum) it's one of the best attempts to combine simulation and decent gameplay. And Arne's still doing brilliant work modding it. The SimHQ EECH section is a good place to read up on what's going on. There's a demo available (which can be heavily modded) from here... http://www.eechcentral.com/wiki/index.php?title=Demo The last two links still seem to work. Andrew McP... wondering why this group has more flight sim chat in it than the flight sim group :-)

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > Andrew McP... wondering why this group has more flight sim chat in it > than the flight sim group :-) > I have been following the flight sim group from right around the time Falcon 4 was released, and have been wondering the same thing! Maybe combine the two groups? rec.comp.pc.autos.sys.simulators.flight-sim.ibm.games MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

A while back I bought that combo pack that has LOMAC, Pacific Fighters, and IL2. Not bad for $20! I installed Pacific Fighters and LOMAC over the weekend. Never flew LOMAC before. I might be able to get into it. The A-10 has always intrigued me, and it looks to be well done in this sim. PF was disappointing because it doesn't support TH2Go display modes. That's a deal breaker for me. I also found that F4AF won't do triple screen. Will IL2 do triple screen? The thing that got me thinking about flight sims again is that show on the history channel where they re-create air battles using computer animation/simulation. It's awesome! Even my wife got interested in it :) Anybody seen that show? Problem is, ARCA should be arriving any minute. This flight sim lark may be short lived :) Pat Dotson

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> A while back I bought that combo pack that has LOMAC, Pacific > Fighters, and IL2. Not bad for $20! I installed Pacific Fighters and > LOMAC over the weekend. > > Never flew LOMAC before. I might be able to get into it. The A-10 > has always intrigued me, and it looks to be well done in this sim. > > PF was disappointing because it doesn't support TH2Go display modes. > That's a deal breaker for me. I also found that F4AF won't do triple > screen. > > Will IL2 do triple screen?

IL-2 and PF use the same game engine so the answer is no. Those games do support wide screen resolutions though if you change a couple of settings in the conf.ini file. Edit the conf.ini file in the root directory as follows: [window] width=1680 height=1050 ColourBits=32 DepthBits=24 StencilBits=8 ChangeScreenRes=0 FullScreen=1 DrawIfNotFocused=0 EnableResize=1 EnableClose=1 SaveAspect=0 Use3Renders=0