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Re: Redline Race Controls is back

27 posts by 13 people · 17 Feb 2004 22:23 UTC - 21 Feb 2004 18:53 UTC

Redline Race Controls pedals back in production

Nigel Nichols announced that Redline Race Controls had resumed making alloy pedal units after a 13-month break, and some balked at the price of about $327. Owners including Goy Larsen and Sid Chapple strongly praised their top-hinged design and dual-spring brake pedal, comparing it to ECCI's PMB2 option. Nigel explained the weak dollar had raised US prices.

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Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for my tastes.. $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c0sk3p$547$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> Hi folks > > After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another batch of > pedal units. > After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no workshop) > and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and > running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals > units. > > If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to > > Redline Race Controls > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > Cya > Nigel Nichols > Hamilton > New Zealand > >
No kidding, and let's not forget $48.31 for shipping! They do look pretty cool though. If I had the extra dough I'd just might get 'em. ;) > Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for mytastes.. > > $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch____________ Pete P. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
Had me a set for a while now, and can say with absolute certainty that they're worth every penny. Start saving your money. <bg> -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LvwYb.345215$na.505470@attbi_s04... > Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for my tastes.. > > $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch > > > "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c0sk3p$547$[email hidden]... > > Hi folks > > > > After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another batch of > > pedal units. > > After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no workshop) > > and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and > > running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals > > units. > > > > If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to > > > > Redline Race Controls > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > Cya > > Nigel Nichols > > Hamilton > > New Zealand > > > > > >
Depends what you want, plastic crap or well made pedals? I paid $3400 for my Hypersim, these pedals are cheap! Never let me down the mileage I used to run I'd have got through 25sets of plastic tat by now. You get what you pay for. If your serious about sims youll find the cash for good equipment. David "Pete Panaia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > No kidding, and let's not forget $48.31 for shipping! > They do look pretty cool though. If I had the extra dough I'd just mightget
Quoted text (16 lines)> 'em. ;) > > > > Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for my > tastes.. > > > > $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch > ____________ > Pete P. > > "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought > without accepting it." > > - Aristotle > >
As an owner of 3 ECCI units I've come to know if you want good quality you're going to pay for it. These pedals look very well made and the design is outstanding. Maybe some would consider them a better value if they came with a squash ball you could stuff behind the pedals...lol. I'm glad to see you're building your pedal units again Nigel. Steve Bycroft "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kfAYb.408$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (23 lines)> Had me a set for a while now, and can say with absolute certainty that > they're worth every penny. Start saving your money. <bg> > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Dean > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:LvwYb.345215$na.505470@attbi_s04... > > Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for my > tastes.. > > > > $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch > > > > > > "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:c0sk3p$547$[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks > > > > > > After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another
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Quoted text (24 lines)> of > > > pedal units. > > > After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no > workshop) > > > and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and > > > running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals > > > units. > > > > > > If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to > > > > > > Redline Race Controls > > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > > > > Cya > > > Nigel Nichols > > > Hamilton > > > New Zealand > > > > > > > > > > > >
Best controls I have ever used. Well worth the money. Chad Pierce "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c0sk3p$547$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> Hi folks > > After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another batch of > pedal units. > After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no workshop) > and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and > running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals > units. > > If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to > > Redline Race Controls > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > Cya > Nigel Nichols > Hamilton > New Zealand > >
Nigel Nichols 18 Feb 2004 06:15 UTC#43188
Hi folks After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another batch of pedal units. After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no workshop) and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals units. If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm Cya Nigel Nichols Hamilton New Zealand
DodgeBullet40 wrote: > > I'm glad to see you're building your pedal units again Nigel. > > Steve Bycroft Hear hear !! best investment in sim racing hardware I ever did And in the spirit of things ..... Nigel Nichols for president !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Certainly the US dollar is not helping me at present. The same unit was $280 US early last year. Nigel -- Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm Western Pacific Model Railways http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/MyWP.htm Cliff Roman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LvwYb.345215$na.505470@attbi_s04... > Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for my tastes.. > > $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch > > > "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c0sk3p$547$[email hidden]... > > Hi folks > > > > After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another batch of > > pedal units. > > After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no workshop) > > and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and > > running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals > > units. > > > > If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to > > > > Redline Race Controls > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > Cya > > Nigel Nichols > > Hamilton > > New Zealand > > > > > >
Lets go back to last year then! :) My main problem is this.. Sure, you can tell that they look realistic but it is hard to shell out that much cash without knowing how they will actually feel Some of you have said that you have had a set.. so.. what makes them better than others? I have a pretty good pair of pedals and I have owned a TSW2 at one point in time. So tell me honestly how/why they are so good? Tell me how the drop down design makes them feel.. "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c0ukkk$lav$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (24 lines)> Certainly the US dollar is not helping me at present. The same unit was > $280 US early last year. > > Nigel > > -- > Redline Race Controls > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > Western Pacific Model Railways > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/MyWP.htm > Cliff Roman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:LvwYb.345215$na.505470@attbi_s04... > > Those pedals are very nice.. but just a little too expensive for my > tastes.. > > > > $327 US for the one with the clutch.. ouch > > > > > > "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:c0sk3p$547$[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks > > > > > > After 13 months away I am back in the workshop working on another
batch
Quoted text (24 lines)> of > > > pedal units. > > > After selling our home (and workshop) and renting for a while(no > workshop) > > > and building our new home(and new workshop) I have finally got up and > > > running again and I'm back on the job making high quality alloy pedals > > > units. > > > > > > If you are interested or just wanna looksee go to > > > > > > Redline Race Controls > > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > > > > Cya > > > Nigel Nichols > > > Hamilton > > > New Zealand > > > > > > > > > > > >
The main point that makes them feel realistic is obviously that they are hinged at the top, like a real cars accelerator, brake and clutch pedals. Unlike most sim pedal systems that are hinged at the bottom. The double spring system on the brake also gives a realistic feel. You push the brake pedal down about 1/3 of the way and the second spring comes into play, making the pedal harder to push in and giving a feel very similar to real cars brake pedal. Once you have used them you understand why everyone that has a set raves about them. Sid. "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wAUYb.349243$xy6.1742511@attbi_s02... > Lets go back to last year then! :) > > My main problem is this.. Sure, you can tell that they look realisticbut > it is hard to shell out that much cash without knowing how they will > actually feel > > Some of you have said that you have had a set.. so.. what makes thembetter > than others? I have a pretty good pair of pedals and I have owned a TSW2at > one point in time. So tell me honestly how/why they are so good? > > Tell me how the drop down design makes them feel..
Sid Chapple wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> > The main point that makes them feel realistic is obviously that they are > hinged at the top, like a real cars accelerator, brake and clutch pedals. > Unlike most sim pedal systems that are hinged at the bottom. The double > spring system on the brake also gives a realistic feel. You push the brake > pedal down about 1/3 of the way and the second spring comes into play, > making the pedal harder to push in and giving a feel very similar to real > cars brake pedal. Once you have used them you understand why everyone that > has a set raves about them. > Sid.
I agree, it's the brake pedal that makes them stand out from any commercial stuff I've tried, the smooth and accurate action of the gas pedal helps along with the incredible reliability, but if I had to point out one single item, it would be the feel of the brake pedal The second spring introduces the the pressure controlled brake pedal....or at least it tricks your brain into reacting in that way, I find it much easier to find the sweet spot on the brakes this way, not to mention that it's much easier to modulate the braking pressure and keep the brakes/wheels just at the point where they don't lock up Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
ECCI 6000 series PMB2 option has a similar effect at preventing braking lockups, though it uses a different type of mechanism. Mitch "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (22 lines)> > > I agree, it's the brake pedal that makes them stand out from any > commercial stuff I've tried, the smooth and accurate action of the gas > pedal helps along with the incredible reliability, but if I had to point > out one single item, it would be the feel of the brake pedal > > The second spring introduces the the pressure controlled brake > pedal....or at least it tricks your brain into reacting in that way, I > find it much easier to find the sweet spot on the brakes this way, not > to mention that it's much easier to modulate the braking pressure and > keep the brakes/wheels just at the point where they don't lock up > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
Mitch_A wrote: > > ECCI 6000 series PMB2 option has a similar effect at preventing braking > lockups, though it uses a different type of mechanism. That's what I've been told too, and while the method is different, the end result is the same, and people who haven't tried these systems usually don't get it, you get a "feel" for the brakes that's just unbelievable Some people have modified their various pedal sets with squash balls and stuff to get the same thing, and I know a couple of guys who have used springs from a Mini clutch assembly on their Logitech pedals .... Hi Ed, Matt :-D, all to get that important extra pressure for the brake pedal I modified my old CH Pro Pedals to get some of that feel as well and was quite happy with that, until someone posted a link to the RedLine pedals in here, and I knew I had to own a set of those, my brother took one look at mine when they arrived and placed an order as well :-D Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
I think ECCI is dropping the ball by not offering the 6000 pedals seperately any longer (or at least until they get production up). I lucked out because someone placed the order for the 6000 pedals adapted for a Momo force with PMB2 but never finalized the order. I just happened to call looking for a set of the 4000 pedals (Tractor pedals) for $199 which they didnt have so I JUMPED at the 6000's and have been wildly happy with them. I just sit and stare at em sometimes :-)~ Believe it or not its hard to get full enjoyment of these cause they are so transparent. They just feel so natural you forget about them and concentrate more on the sim/line youre running :-) Knowwhatimean vern? ;) Now that I think of it my enjoyment of F1C/mods a drastically increased since I recieved this pedal set. Could be because I can brake fully without the mass brake locks like before. Mitch "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (26 lines)> > > That's what I've been told too, and while the method is different, the > end result is the same, and people who haven't tried these systems > usually don't get it, you get a "feel" for the brakes that's just > unbelievable > > Some people have modified their various pedal sets with squash balls and > stuff to get the same thing, and I know a couple of guys who have used > springs from a Mini clutch assembly on their Logitech pedals .... Hi Ed, > Matt :-D, all to get that important extra pressure for the brake pedal > > I modified my old CH Pro Pedals to get some of that feel as well and was > quite happy with that, until someone posted a link to the RedLine pedals > in here, and I knew I had to own a set of those, my brother took one > look at mine when they arrived and placed an order as well :-D > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:09:40 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:
Quoted text (22 lines)> > >Mitch_A wrote: >> >> ECCI 6000 series PMB2 option has a similar effect at preventing braking >> lockups, though it uses a different type of mechanism. > >That's what I've been told too, and while the method is different, the >end result is the same, and people who haven't tried these systems >usually don't get it, you get a "feel" for the brakes that's just >unbelievable > >Some people have modified their various pedal sets with squash balls and >stuff to get the same thing, and I know a couple of guys who have used >springs from a Mini clutch assembly on their Logitech pedals .... Hi Ed, >Matt :-D, all to get that important extra pressure for the brake pedal > >I modified my old CH Pro Pedals to get some of that feel as well and was >quite happy with that, until someone posted a link to the RedLine pedals >in here, and I knew I had to own a set of those, my brother took one >look at mine when they arrived and placed an order as well :-D >
Hmm Are the redline pedals compatible with "stock" steering wheel units, (like a Thrustmaster, Logitech, TSW, momo, etc?). Are they compatible with gameport and USB wheels? How would you hook them up, for instance, to an old gameport wheel? Simple Y-cable? <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"
"Chad Pierce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > Best controls I have ever used. > Well worth the money. My pennies are being saved even now. But I got clamped yesterday and I'm now out of pocket �165... My own damn fault... Regards Mark Davison www.v8thunder.com
Falkentyne wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> > Hmm > Are the redline pedals compatible with "stock" steering wheel units, > (like a Thrustmaster, Logitech, TSW, momo, etc?). Are they > compatible with gameport and USB wheels? > > How would you hook them up, for instance, to an old gameport wheel? > Simple Y-cable?
Mine are a special order so I could hook them up to a homemade wheel with a Thrustmaster wiring loom, I just forwarded the details to Nigel and he took care of the rest, that was over 4 years ago so I really don't know how he does this now Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
>My pennies are being saved even now. But I got clamped yesterday and >I'm now out of pocket �165... > >My own damn fault... "Clamped", as in nailed for speeding? :-( Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > >My pennies are being saved even now. But I got clamped yesterday and > >I'm now out of pocket �165... > > > >My own damn fault... > > "Clamped", as in nailed for speeding? :-(
I'm guessing he got his car "clamped" for wrong parking ..... The Brits are serious about their parking regs, if you're really unlucky they'll put a lock/clamp on one of your wheels with a note telling you who to call to come and "unclamp" it and what it's going to cost you ..... fine to paid on the spot I believe, and there's no telling how long it will take before the clamping crew get around to *your* car Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Mitch_A wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> > I think ECCI is dropping the ball by not offering the 6000 pedals seperately > any longer (or at least until they get production up). I lucked out because > someone placed the order for the 6000 pedals adapted for a Momo force with > PMB2 but never finalized the order. I just happened to call looking for a > set of the 4000 pedals (Tractor pedals) for $199 which they didnt have so I > JUMPED at the 6000's and have been wildly happy with them. I just sit and > stare at em sometimes :-)~ Believe it or not its hard to get full > enjoyment of these cause they are so transparent. They just feel so natural > you forget about them and concentrate more on the sim/line youre running :-) > Knowwhatimean vern? ;) > > Now that I think of it my enjoyment of F1C/mods a drastically increased > since I recieved this pedal set. Could be because I can brake fully without > the mass brake locks like before.
Wouldn't surprise, personally I'd be happy to go "Dutch" with someone who's looking for the ECCI pedals as I may be in the market for a ECCI wheel myself, but since I already have the best pedals....:-D Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
That reminds me that I just saw on the TV the guy that dresses up as a bad "Superman" then gets his steel cutting saw and goes down the street cutting off those clamps :-) Mitch "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (29 lines)> > > EldredP wrote: > > > > >My pennies are being saved even now. But I got clamped yesterday and > > >I'm now out of pocket �165... > > > > > >My own damn fault... > > > > "Clamped", as in nailed for speeding? :-( > > I'm guessing he got his car "clamped" for wrong parking ..... > > The Brits are serious about their parking regs, if you're really unlucky > they'll put a lock/clamp on one of your wheels with a note telling you > who to call to come and "unclamp" it and what it's going to cost you > ..... fine to paid on the spot I believe, and there's no telling how > long it will take before the clamping crew get around to *your* car > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx-- >
Thats a great idea and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I believe all of the electronics are in the wheel. This is what I was after initially but they didnt offer standalone USB pedals ATM. What I'll end up doing after both my Momo's die is rip out the power supply from the orig pedals and the electronics from the Wheel and mount them in a plastic radio shack box then I can attach the box to the pedals. I'd have to disagree about which pedals are "BEST" ;) Looks DO MATTER <g> I like FF effects so my next wheel will likely be the BRD Speed7 if it lives up to the hype. Mitch "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> > > > Wouldn't surprise, personally I'd be happy to go "Dutch" with someone > who's looking for the ECCI pedals as I may be in the market for a ECCI > wheel myself, but since I already have the best pedals....:-D > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
They do it in Chicago too...its called a "Denver Boot" here. There was an episode of the Simpson's where Homer got booted and couldn't get it off so he drove away with it still on there...hilarious. Steve Bycroft "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (28 lines)> > > EldredP wrote: > > > > >My pennies are being saved even now. But I got clamped yesterday and > > >I'm now out of pocket �165... > > > > > >My own damn fault... > > > > "Clamped", as in nailed for speeding? :-( > > I'm guessing he got his car "clamped" for wrong parking ..... > > The Brits are serious about their parking regs, if you're really unlucky > they'll put a lock/clamp on one of your wheels with a note telling you > who to call to come and "unclamp" it and what it's going to cost you > ..... fine to paid on the spot I believe, and there's no telling how > long it will take before the clamping crew get around to *your* car > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
Quoted text (7 lines)> I'm guessing he got his car "clamped" for wrong parking ..... > > The Brits are serious about their parking regs, if you're really unlucky > they'll put a lock/clamp on one of your wheels with a note telling you > who to call to come and "unclamp" it and what it's going to cost you > ..... fine to paid on the spot I believe, and there's no telling how > long it will take before the clamping crew get around to *your* car
Nail hit on head. Been using the same "bad" space for 5 years so count myself in pocket - especially with the general �15ish per day it costs for a legit space... It was fair enough - no way am I gonna argue that I was in the right. Can't think of anything more futile than arguing with a clamper! Cheers, Mark V8Thunder.com
Mitch_A wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Thats a great idea and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I believe all > of the electronics are in the wheel. This is what I was after initially but > they didnt offer standalone USB pedals ATM. What I'll end up doing after > both my Momo's die is rip out the power supply from the orig pedals and the > electronics from the Wheel and mount them in a plastic radio shack box then > I can attach the box to the pedals.
Aah > I'd have to disagree about which pedals are "BEST" ;) Looks DO MATTER <g> It's all in the eye of the beholder > I like FF effects so my next wheel will likely be the BRD Speed7 if it lives > up to the hype. Not for me I think Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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