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GPL: track times w/T2 wheel

12 posts by 10 people · 28 Oct 1998 - 29 Oct 1998

Jay Wolf 28 Oct 1998#431159
is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: KYALAMI - 1:27 MONZA - 1:32 MOSPORT - 1:28 ZANDVOORT - 1:37 SILVERSTONE - 1:34 'RING - 9:55 MONACO - 1:39 ROUEN - 2:11 MEXICO - 1:59 WATKINS GLEN - 1:09 SPA - 3:33 if you kick my butt, let me know! if you are still behind, confess in front of the world!
doktorB 28 Oct 1998#431160
I've put up a page on my site with MY best laps, setups & replays (FERRARI-ONLY!). So far, I've got setups & replays files for Spa, the Glen, Monza, and Kyalami, and a setup for Silverstone, but I will be adding more as I improve! If anyone uses them (unchanged) and can run faster times, let me know! That's my challenge to you! I'll be working on them too! http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl/files/setups/ferrari.htm System: P2-233, 64MB Ram, Stealth II S220, Awe-64 Gold, Thrustmaster T2 wheel (NOT split) (I'll be getting my PDPI L4 in the next day or two!).. (Incidentally, today I saved 47 MINUTES of an online practice and race at Silverstone with about 15 starters, I believe.) doktorB http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl/ -- Exclusive offer: PDPI L4 Digital Gamecard ONLY $80.95 US with Passwords on my GPL page Get rid of Jitters & poor framerates today! --
Quoted text (17 lines)>is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have >seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: >KYALAMI - 1:27 >MONZA - 1:32 >MOSPORT - 1:28 >ZANDVOORT - 1:37 >SILVERSTONE - 1:34 >'RING - 9:55 >MONACO - 1:39 >ROUEN - 2:11 >MEXICO - 1:59 >WATKINS GLEN - 1:09 >SPA - 3:33 >if you kick my butt, let me know! if you are still behind, confess in >front of the world!
Jure 29 Oct 1998#431398
Quoted text (10 lines)> is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have > seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: > KYALAMI - 1:27 > MONZA - 1:32 > ZANDVOORT - 1:37 > WATKINS GLEN - 1:09 > if you kick my butt, let me know! if you are still behind, confess in > front of the world!
Monza: 1:27.95 Zandvort: 1:25.69 W.Glen: 1:04.86 Kyalami: 1:20.1 Haven't done others... Shifting with a shi(f)ter sucks big time. -- ************************************** * Jure Zagoricnik * ************************************** * TEN ID: SMOKKINU3 * * KALI ID: SMOKKINU3_#752 * * NROS TEAM: BLACKHOLE MOTORSPORTS * * DRAG TEAM: BLACKHOLE MOTORSPORTS * * SHRA MEMBER #752 * * ICQ UIN: 5779894 * * http://www.bhmotorsports.com * ************************************** * Power is nothing without control. * **************************************
Chatham 29 Oct 1998#431400
says... times are above. I would like to see others list their times by without seperate axis controls. I tried the new Micro$oft FF wheel and was not really impressed with it and would recommend GP1 Thrustmaster wheel before it any day. I am going to get CH pedals soon to get seperate axis so i can challenge the big boys. Cheers
Quoted text (7 lines)> is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have > seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: > WATKINS GLEN - 1:09 > if you kick my butt, let me know! if you are still behind, confess in > front of the world!
I'm still only running the latest demo, but with an unmodified T2. I have 1.08.72 for Watkins Glen with the Lotus (with very little fuel in the tank), and this was on a mildly cautious lap. -- Anssi Lehtinen
Quoted text (11 lines)>> is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have >> seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: >> WATKINS GLEN - 1:09 >> if you kick my butt, let me know! if you are still behind, confess in >> front of the world! >I'm still only running the latest demo, but with an unmodified T2. I have >1.08.72 for Watkins Glen with the Lotus (with very little fuel in the >tank), and this was on a mildly cautious lap.
I managed a 1:07.98 at the Glen with the Lotus and an unmodified T2. The replay shows lots of room for improvement; I'm sure someone fast could do a 1:05.xx with this wheel. Anyone with a switchable single-dual axis wheel done A/B comparisions? -- spamgard(tm): To email me, put "geek" in your Subject line.
Vitzthu 29 Oct 1998#431403
Alas, here I shall display my ineptitude to all <sigh>; I, too, have a T2 on a single axis gas/brake (I have yet to make the modification) but I do have a tennis ball under the brake to help with pedal "feel". My lap times and comments are written next to Jay's. > is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have > seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: > KYALAMI - 1:27 1:24.68 - Know the circuit fairly well by now. > MONZA - 1:32 1:35.07 - Have driven this for one or two quick races at most. > MOSPORT - 1:28 1:27.13 - My home circuit :). Know it well in Real Life from Porsche "driver instruction" <ahem> events. with the full install (no one hosts there!) playing with setups. and it seemed forever before I could consistently lap under 2:00.00. from Real Life experience in a race prepped, bucking and kicking, fire snorting 911C4 with an aftermarket supercharger putting out over 470bhp. The four wheel drive mixed with electronic traction control saved my bacon more than once! saved my bacon on more than one occasion things at over 120 virtual mph. It seems, Jay, that you and I are fairly evenly matched at this point. I am a little quicker than you at some tracks where I have a fair amount of practice and, likewise, you are a little faster than I at other circuits. I still have a fair way to go in regards to setups. I have been using some of Doug A.'s setups that I saw posted at an Aussie website, but now I realise that they are all based on the beta so they have unrealistic bumper settings (i.e. below 1.00"); I don't know if they are recognised, or if the bumper defaults to 1.00" and therefore springs and ride heights are way out of whack. I am just starting to mess with them now. I have really dropped the car from Doug's beta setups at places like Zandvoort and Mexico. Practice, practice, practice! Cheers, Gian Vitzthum. (remove "*no-spam*" from address to reply)
What's up Dok! (sorry couldn't resist) Just wanted to tell you that you *really* really should consider splitting your T2 pedals axis, this should be a very important priority for you. I went through the trouble of doing it and let me tell you it has payed off greatly in GPL... Here's the scenario: you are in the Scuderia's fine steed driving at Monza, you are approaching the first Lesmo quite fast but applying a ton of brakes you think you have slowed just enough to make the turn and gain a second on that damned green Lotus that fills your mirrors... As you enter the corner trail braking, you realize you may have approached the corner too fast, the back-end seems to be coming around !! carefully as if on instinct, while maintaining the brake pressure of your left foot, at the same time you blip the throttle just so... the sudden rear wheel power stops the oversteering and brings the car back into balance and you avoid the spin, making the corner while being just outside the prefered line, at the same time you seem to have pulled away from that damned Lotus... This is what split pedal axis allows... I've done this exact thing many times, just substitude my Eagle for your Ferrari.. I can't tell you enough how much the split pedals have aided in avoiding spins, especially when you race in some of the Online races with PRO damage setting (no shift-R), it becomes crucial to have this kind of control and be able to drive on the limit while having the ability to correct potential disasters.. Anyhow, just wanted to pass on the info, I think it would really help you, I hope to race you online again soon. Seeyas on the track. --John (Joao) Silva
Quoted text (42 lines)>I've put up a page on my site with MY best laps, setups & replays >(FERRARI-ONLY!). So far, I've got setups & replays files for Spa, the Glen, >Monza, and Kyalami, and a setup for Silverstone, but I will be adding more >as I improve! >If anyone uses them (unchanged) and can run faster times, let me know! >That's my challenge to you! I'll be working on them too! >http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl/files/setups/ferrari.htm >System: P2-233, 64MB Ram, Stealth II S220, Awe-64 Gold, Thrustmaster T2 >wheel (NOT split) >(I'll be getting my PDPI L4 in the next day or two!).. >(Incidentally, today I saved 47 MINUTES of an online practice and race at >Silverstone with about 15 starters, I believe.) >doktorB >http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl/ >-- Exclusive offer: PDPI L4 Digital Gamecard > ONLY $80.95 US with Passwords on my GPL page > Get rid of Jitters & poor framerates today! -- >>is there anybody else out there running GPL with a T2 that does not have >>seperate axis' for brake/gas? how do your times compare with these: >>KYALAMI - 1:27 >>MONZA - 1:32 >>MOSPORT - 1:28 >>ZANDVOORT - 1:37 >>SILVERSTONE - 1:34 >>'RING - 9:55 >>MONACO - 1:39 >>ROUEN - 2:11 >>MEXICO - 1:59 >>WATKINS GLEN - 1:09 >>SPA - 3:33 >>if you kick my butt, let me know! if you are still behind, confess in >>front of the world!
Jay Wolf 29 Oct 1998#431405
Quoted text (8 lines)> I still have a fair way to go in regards to setups. I have been using > some of Doug A.'s setups that I saw posted at an Aussie website, but now > I realise that they are all based on the beta so they have unrealistic > bumper settings (i.e. below 1.00"); I don't know if they are recognised, > or if the bumper defaults to 1.00" and therefore springs and ride > heights are way out of whack. I am just starting to mess with them > now. I have really dropped the car from Doug's beta setups at places > like Zandvoort and Mexico.
i'm only now trying to do a little tinkering. it's hard to make solid judgements when you can't stay on the track! when i drive GPL, i've been doing a different car every couple of days and going through all of the tracks. invariably, i will improve upon all of my best times for that car (and best overall a good portion), so my best times are done with anything from the BRM to the Ferrari. VROOOOOOOMMMM!
Grit 29 Oct 1998#431406
Here ya go (this is with a T2 w/NO seperate axis): Kyalami 1:22.68 Mexico 1:52.58 Monaco 1:31.58 (still workin' on this one) Monza 1:28.97 Rouen 2:00.57 Silverstone 1:29.22 Spa 3:21.22 Watkins 1:05.91 Zandvoort 1:27.41 All times in an Eagle BTW. S.C."Gritz" Petty
Jay Wolf 29 Oct 1998#431407
you da man. and a "petty" at that. at least i know it can be done now. whew!
Quoted text (15 lines)> Here ya go (this is with a T2 w/NO seperate axis): > Kyalami 1:22.68 > Mexico 1:52.58 > Monaco 1:31.58 (still workin' on this one) > Monza 1:28.97 > Rouen 2:00.57 > Silverstone 1:29.22 > Spa 3:21.22 > Watkins 1:05.91 > Zandvoort 1:27.41 > All times in an Eagle BTW. > S.C."Gritz" Petty

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