Hi,
does anyone of you know how gp2 and a PII-350MHz CPU go together (I
mean: Full resolution at how many frames? etc. etc.)
Thanks!!!
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Can't tell you 'bout the framerate, but this turned out to be a totally new
game to me. Wow! Had a P166 before, and now with this 350 PII GP2 doesn't
only look better (I can finally turn on that sky texture), car handling has
improved a whole lot. And yes, it runs smooth as silk.
Just fixed up a pal with GP2 on his new Dell PII 350. GP2 doesn't have a frame
counter, but processor occupancy was still above 100% during a replay at Imola
with all graphics on. Turned off the sky and it was fine; it really gives new
life to the game. My pal hadn't quite seen the point of computer games before,
but after about ten minutes, he said "damn, this is like a drug!" Another one
bites the dust.....His wife just gave me "the eye".
Steve B.
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Bring in a copy of GPL and she'll smack you ;)
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:24:07 +0200, Erik van Duijn
>Hi,
>does anyone of you know how gp2 and a PII-350MHz CPU go together (I
>mean: Full resolution at how many frames? etc. etc.)
>Thanks!!!
Not sure about a 350 but I just got my new Gateway 450 running and the
first thing I installed was GP2. I had a 150 b4 and it ran like a dog
but now everything is turned on and what a dream!!! Just like a
brand new game! It's amazing that I've had this game for 3 years and
I could never enjoy it till now.
Cheers!
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> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:24:07 +0200, Erik van Duijn > >Hi, > >does anyone of you know how gp2 and a PII-350MHz CPU go together (I > >mean: Full resolution at how many frames? etc. etc.) > >Thanks!!! > Not sure about a 350 but I just got my new Gateway 450 running and the > first thing I installed was GP2. I had a 150 b4 and it ran like a dog > but now everything is turned on and what a dream!!! Just like a > brand new game! It's amazing that I've had this game for 3 years and > I could never enjoy it till now. > Cheers!I got a celeron 300A overclocked to 450 since a month ,on most of the track
with all details and 25 fps the PO occupancy average is around 70 , 80%
excepted at Monaco where the higher value is 120% (the average remains above
100%)
I think that with a P2 350 , the PO occupancy is not a lot higher
Jean
http://www.bhmotorsports.com/gpl/hotlap/index.html (GPL page)
http://www.nat.fr/homepages/estori85/welceng.html (GP2 page)
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>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:24:07 +0200, Erik van Duijn >>Hi, >>does anyone of you know how gp2 and a PII-350MHz CPU go together (I >>mean: Full resolution at how many frames? etc. etc.) >>Thanks!!! >Not sure about a 350 but I just got my new Gateway 450 running and the >first thing I installed was GP2. I had a 150 b4 and it ran like a dog >but now everything is turned on and what a dream!!! Just like a >brand new game! It's amazing that I've had this game for 3 years and >I could never enjoy it till now. >Cheers!I am new to GP2 (believe it or not!) but what does the term "PO occupancy
average" and how can you tell if you are getting 30+ fps correctly? I've alway
heard that GP2 runs slowly, but it seems to run fine on my PII300.
Thanks,
James
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> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:24:07 +0200, Erik van Duijn > >Hi, > >does anyone of you know how gp2 and a PII-350MHz CPU go together (I > >mean: Full resolution at how many frames? etc. etc.) > >Thanks!!! > Not sure about a 350 but I just got my new Gateway 450 running and the > first thing I installed was GP2. I had a 150 b4 and it ran like a dog > but now everything is turned on and what a dream!!! Just like a > brand new game! It's amazing that I've had this game for 3 years and > I could never enjoy it till now. > Cheers!I am new to GP2 (believe it or not!) but what does the term "PO
occupancy
average"
PO means Processor Occupancy, i.e.: how much "work" the processor is
using for the game. Theoretically it should be a little less than 100
but, in case of crashes, it is advisable to bring it down even more,
let's say 70-80 (an even lower value than that would be great but hard
to do with slower systems in SVGA-mode and full detail).
You can get the value for the PO by pressing the "o" key during the
game. Also look at the difference between tracks like (for instance)
Interlagos and Monaco (especially at the start)!!! Yes, it is really
track-dependent as well as detail- and mode- (VGA/SVGA) dependent.
and how can you tell if you are getting 30+ fps correctly?
again: press the o-key and tune it to a value (if possible) lower then
100. I usually tune it when racing on Monaco (during the start for
instance). Monaco is a real CPU-time-eater and if the PO is OK there, it
should be OK elsewhere.
I've alway
heard that GP2 runs slowly, but it seems to run fine on my PII300.
But at the time GP2 was released, those monster-pc's where not available
yet.
My opinion is that GP2 is not so slow at all, CONSIDERING IT DOES NOT
MAKE USE OF 3D/3DFX-CARDS. THE MAIN CPU HAS TO DO ALL THE WORK, WHILE IN
NEWER GAMES (F1RS,GPL etc.) THAT IS SHARED WITH THE 3D/3DFX-CARDS.
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Greetings,
Erik van Duijn
Katwijk, Holland
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If you set the game for 25 fps and you get PO of over 100% then you are not
getting 25fps. What the game does is display 25 frames per second but not in
real time if the PO is over 100%. For example if we set the frame rate in the
game to 20 fps and the PO was never over 100% and you then turned a lap at an
even 1:00 then one minute of time off your wris***ch, real time, would have
elapsed. If you set the game to 25fps and then the CPU couldn't render the
frame and was too slow and the PO stayed at 125% for that one lap. The game
says that you just turned a 1:00 lap time but your wris***ch shows that one
minute and fif*** seconds really passed. What happpens is the game slows down
to try and render every frame you tell it too and even though you may have the
game set to 25fps you get a slide show. Your first reaction is that this is
the stupidest thing you have ever seen in a game, but not really. If you can
set the graphic options so that you never see over 100% PO then you know that
you are really getting the 22 fps or whatever you have it set to and that it is
locked at that frame rate. Games Like Papyrus GPL do not have a fixed
framerate and it will fluctuate during the game. On modest equipment this can
casue you to lose control of the car when the frame rate take a nose dive to
10fps when you were just sailing along at 20fps. In GP2 you could set the
frame rate to 15 fps and keep everything smoother while driving. I used to
play GP2 on a P120 and kept my frame rate set to about 15 that way the frame
rate wasn't too eratic.
With a PII300 or higher you should be able to run at about 21fps - 25.6 fps
with everything on at 640 x 480 maybe more. 25.6 is the max the game allows I
believe.
James,
PO = Processor Occupancy, the figure that you get when you push the "O" key
during play. Whenever it goes over 100, the game slows down (need a whole story
to explain this...). The problem is that the game doesn't drop frames, it
stretches gametime.
Framerate is maximum 25.6
You only get the correct framerate as long as PO stays under 100.
JoH
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