GPL Lap time errors

Hi there Has anyone noticed in GPL that lap times after a slide on the grass or any off road excursion show lower laptimes, I noticed this problem in the very early Alpha version of the demo but it is still there. Anyone noticed the same?

Nope! I'm just saying there possibly is an error in the lap time calculation.

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> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:08:55 +0100, > >Has anyone noticed in GPL that lap times after a slide on the grass or > >any off road excursion show lower laptimes > Are you saying that sliding in the grass will improve your performance? > -- > ( rrevved is at mindspring dot com > ( post in haste, repent at your leisure

What error...could you be a bit more descriptive, please? I, for one, have no idea what you are saying. Marc.

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>Nope! >I'm just saying there possibly is an error in the lap time calculation. >> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:08:55 +0100, >> >Has anyone noticed in GPL that lap times after a slide on the grass or >> >any off road excursion show lower laptimes >> Are you saying that sliding in the grass will improve your performance? >> -- >> ( rrevved is at mindspring dot com >> ( post in haste, repent at your leisure

Marc Laptimes after an offroad excursion should be slower in comparison to ones without leaving the tarmac in a big way. I just noticed that the reported laptime on a slower run in which I did some serious offroad excursions, i.e. hugging the bushes, showed indeed a quicker laptime which in fact should have reported a time 10 seconds or more slower, in comparison to a similar lap without making mistakes. It doesn't always happen, but there are scenarios in which this happens. Try to run the car into the green barriers so the car slows down almost to a standstill but without damaging the car so you can continue the lap, then check your laptime. If more people noticed this behaviour then I know it isn't my imagination and I can report the bug tot Papy. Thanks, > What error...could you be a bit more descriptive, please? I, for one, have > no idea what you are saying. > Marc.

Basil wrote Hmm... that's indeed a good question... It's the first time I see this. And it's not a "cut-course" thing neither. lol, I might sound stupid, but couldn't that be something related to the clock in the PC ? Oh and did you tried to reinstall GPL and see if such thing happen ? Oh and finally, you do remember that the actual lap on the board is 1lap previous from the one you did ? heh. - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

>Hi there >Has anyone noticed in GPL that lap times after a slide on the grass or >any off road excursion show lower laptimes, I noticed this problem in >the very early Alpha version of the demo but it is still there. >Anyone noticed the same? Basil, I have'nt made any scientific calculations on this subject, but I've noticed something like this too. I'd make a mistake and go off for a second and at the final screen showing lap times it would list a lap that was much quicker than what I really did. I have'nt noticed it as much with the latest version. Anybody else see this? Rae

Somehow I managed a 138.10 in a Ferrari at Monza with a crash and a Shift+R. Something has got to be wrong. Mike

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>>Hi there >>Has anyone noticed in GPL that lap times after a slide on the grass or >>any off road excursion show lower laptimes, I noticed this problem in >>the very early Alpha version of the demo but it is still there. >>Anyone noticed the same? >Basil, >I have'nt made any scientific calculations on this subject, but I've >noticed something like this too. I'd make a mistake and go off for a >second and at the final screen showing lap times it would list a lap >that was much quicker than what I really did. I have'nt noticed it as >much with the latest version. Anybody else see this? >Rae

> Somehow I managed a 138.10 in a Ferrari at Monza with a crash and a Shift+R. > Something has got to be wrong. plus, lap times do not match "real" time. time yourself with a stopwatch at the 'ring and check it out. hmmmmm...a problem with "the greatest racing sim ever"? naw, i couldn't be.... ;-)

Basil, First, let me ask the obvious: On the lap where you hit the bushes, are you looking at the pitboard right as you pass, or are you waiting a lap to look. If you do have an off, the pitboard won't reflect the slower time til two laps later... When you pass the pitboard for the first time after an off, you're seeing the time for the lap prior to the one where you went off. It can indeed look like you just got a great time for a botched lap tho. It may be obvious, but it's a possible explanation for lap times seeming to disagree with on track performance... Trips

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> Marc > Laptimes after an offroad excursion should be slower in comparison to ones > without leaving the tarmac in a big way. I just noticed that the reported > laptime on a slower run in which I did some serious offroad excursions, i.e. > hugging the bushes, showed indeed a quicker laptime which in fact should have > reported a time 10 seconds or more slower, in comparison to a similar lap > without making mistakes. > It doesn't always happen, but there are scenarios in which this happens. > Try to run the car into the green barriers so the car slows down almost to a > standstill but without damaging the car so you can continue the lap, then check > your laptime. > If more people noticed this behaviour then I know it isn't my imagination and I > can report the bug tot Papy.

> > Somehow I managed a 138.10 in a Ferrari at Monza with a crash and a Shift+R. > > Something has got to be wrong. > plus, lap times do not match "real" time. time yourself with a stopwatch at the > 'ring and check it out. hmmmmm...a problem with "the greatest racing sim ever"? > naw, i couldn't be.... I haven't been able to duplicate this one. I've timed laps and replays with a stopwatch, and the times agree within a few hundredths of a second (easily accountable if you figure my reaction times on the watch may be a few nubdredths off) Trips

>Somehow I managed a 138.10 in a Ferrari at Monza with a crash and a Shift+R. >Something has got to be wrong. >Mike That's not a very fast lap, it's possible to crash at a slow part of the track and still turn a 1:35 if you recover quickly. You must remember the time it shows on the pitboard when you are driving by - is the time for your previous lap, NOT the lap you just completed. -Ryan

>> greatest racing sim ever"? naw, i couldn't be.... I do hope this timing is correct, i had to stop hotlapping with F1RS when i upgraded my pc because the timing went to pot. Just as a small aside, i had my pitboard tell me at the Glen my lap was 1:06:09 and the lap recorder said 1:06:08 tonight, and yes it was that same lap as i botched the previous one. I didnt think to save the replay and check the time. Must get a new spotter if he's going to make mistakes like that! Mike. -- 06:53 on 10/29/98 From sunny Herne Bay, Kent.UK. mailable also at remove NO-SPAM to mail me.

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>>Hi there >>Has anyone noticed in GPL that lap times after a slide on the grass or >>any off road excursion show lower laptimes, I noticed this problem in >>the very early Alpha version of the demo but it is still there. >>Anyone noticed the same? >Basil, >I have'nt made any scientific calculations on this subject, but I've >noticed something like this too. I'd make a mistake and go off for a >second and at the final screen showing lap times it would list a lap >that was much quicker than what I really did. I have'nt noticed it as >much with the latest version. Anybody else see this? >Rae

Yes. I just saw it last night. I've been struggling with setups, and I KNOW I'm not that fast. :) Something like a 1:15 at the Glen, when I'm hitting every barrier in sight. Even flipped over a fence, once, and got a "hot" lap. Also, if you go back to the pits, the time is "calculated" or something. I went back to look at the setup, and when I came back to the track, it gave me a lap time that didn't make sense. Really makes a shambles of the fastest laps tally. Craig