F1C force feedback

Hey guys, Is there a certain setting in F1C that controls the amount of force felt when hitting an object (such as a wall or other vehicle)? And, is there a setting that controls the amount of feedback from the track (i.e. rumble strips and such)? I can get all the oscillation out of the wheel, but I can't seem to get any feedback from the track. I can feel the rumble strips with the mods (ETCC2003), but not with the original sim. I've copied all the settings in the mod to the original sim, but it hasn't worked as well as in the mods. I'm using a Momo (black) p/n 1000 series. I've used Sphanky's settings for the control panel and that has eliminated the oscillations but has not rendered any feedback from the track. -- Thanks, Gary Beard

Are you using Logi profiler Gary and is it loaded when you start F1C? The forces with my Racing is greater than the Momo Force which makes me wonder what's going on with your rig. I also use 10% spring centering and 10% Spring effect in F1C/mods to add to the feel. You can also copy the player.ini [Controllers} section from ETC03save to the other mods. Mitch "Gary Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey guys, > Is there a certain setting in F1C that controls the amount of force felt > when hitting an object (such as a wall or other vehicle)? > And, is there a setting that controls the amount of feedback from thetrack > (i.e. rumble strips and such)? > I can get all the oscillation out of the wheel, but I can't seem to getany > feedback from the track. > I can feel the rumble strips with the mods (ETCC2003), but not with the > original sim. I've copied all the settings in the mod to the originalsim, > but it hasn't worked as well as in the mods. > I'm using a Momo (black) p/n 1000 series. I've used Sphanky's settingsfor

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> the control panel and that has eliminated the oscillations but has not > rendered any feedback from the track. > > -- > Thanks, > Gary Beard > >

Mitch, I do use the profiler, but it's not always open when I run the sim. I'll try adjusting my spring centering and effect to 10% and see if that helps. I did copy part of the player.ini from ETCC but I may not have copied everything I needed, or the right section. I'll try it again and see if that helps. -- Thanks, Gary Beard

Mitch, Oddly enough the only mod I'm not running through the profiler is the ETCC mod...and that's the only mod that is working correctly. I get great feel from the rumble strips and from contact with walls and other cars. I'm gonna try to copy everything from the .ini file from ETCC to the original sim as well as the DTM mod and see what happens. -- Thanks, Gary Beard

Mitch, I tried once again to copy the info from the player.ini file from ETC03 and paste it to the .ini file of the original sim, but that didn't work either. I then went in to the profiler and deleted the entry for F1C and tried running the sim and that didn't help (I don't have a profile for ETC03, so I thought it might help to delete the profile for F1C). So I built a new profile for F1C and that didn't work. I made sure all my settings in F1C matched my settings in ETC03 and it still didn't want to work. Is there an .ini file (or some other file) that contains information relevant to the feedback of FF wheels? Even in ETC03 I don't feel the car get loose, which is really what I'm looking for. Is it even possible to feel forces such as these with a FF wheel or am I wasting my time? I know I should be feeling crashes into walls and rumble strips, so I know I'm not spinning my wheels over that one (so to speak). What setting(s) needs to be changed in order to adjust the force at which you feel contact with the wall? I only feel minimal effects right now, and would like to increase it a bit? -- Thanks again for any help, Gary Beard

Do you by chance go through a USB hub Gary? In the profiler under global settings i have... Control Panel/Game controller should be the same. Overall effects strenght 97% Spring effect 7% Damper 0% Check box to enable cetering spring Spring strength 10% Under Wheel axis. Sensitivity 50% Deadzone 0% Range 100% Here is my controller section of my player.ini. First backup your player.ini somewhere. Open your F1c/save/player_name/player.ini and select the same section then paste the new section over it. [ Controls ] Keyboard Steering="0.20189" Keyboard Throttle="0.49906" Keyboard Brake="0.49906" Keyboard Clutch="0.20189" Force Feedback="0" Mimic Steering="0" // Mimic AI or pitlane assistance with force feedback Gear Select Button Hold="0" // Enable this option if using a gear select device that holds down a joystick button while in a gear and releases all buttons in neutral (such as the Act-Labs USB Shifter) Alternate Rearlook Activation="1" // if left look and right look are both pressed, rearlook becomes activated VFX-3D Head Tracking="0" // Enable this option if you have a VFX-3D HMD and you want to enable head tracking (VFX driver v. 2.6 must be installed) HMD Pitch Exponent="1.00000" // Exponent to apply to pitch tracking. > 1.0 makes tracking near-center slower, > 0 & < 1.0 makes tracking near-center faster. HMD Yaw Exponent="1.00000" // Exponent to apply to yaw tracking. > 1.0 makes tracking near-center slower, > 0 & < 1.0 makes tracking near-center faster. HMD Roll Exponent="1.00000" // Exponent to apply to roll tracking. > 1.0 makes tracking near-center slower, > 0 & < 1.0 makes tracking near-center faster. Options Num Controls="44" // Number of configurable controls displayed in options Axis [00, 00] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 X Axis [00, 00] Sensitivity="0.45283" Axis [00, 00] Center="0.50000" // 0.0=min, 0.5=center, 1.0=max (use to correct centering or split-axis issues) Axis [00, 01] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 Y Axis [00, 01] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 01] Center="1.00000" Axis [00, 02] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 Z Axis [00, 02] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 02] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 03] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RX Axis [00, 03] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 03] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 04] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RY Axis [00, 04] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 04] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 05] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RZ Axis [00, 05] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 05] Center="1.00000" Axis [00, 06] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 S0 Axis [00, 06] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 06] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 07] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 S1 Axis [00, 07] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 07] Center="0.50000" Axis [01, 00] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 X Axis [01, 00] Sensitivity="0.45283" Axis [01, 00] Center="0.50000" // 0.0=min, 0.5=center, 1.0=max (use to correct centering or split-axis issues) Axis [01, 01] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 Y Axis [01, 01] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 01] Center="0.50000" Axis [01, 02] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 Z Axis [01, 02] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 02] Center="1.00000" Axis [01, 03] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 RX Axis [01, 03] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 03] Center="1.00000" Axis [01, 04] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 RY Axis [01, 04] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 04] Center="0.50000" Axis [01, 05] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 RZ Axis [01, 05] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 05] Center="0.50000" Axis [01, 06] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 S0 Axis [01, 06] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 06] Center="0.50000" Axis [01, 07] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 2 S1 Axis [01, 07] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [01, 07] Center="0.50000" Control - Accelerate="(1, 4)" Control - Brake="(1, 12)" Control - Steer Left="(1, 2)" Control - Steer Right="(1, 1)" Control - Shift Up="(1, 14)" Control - Shift Down="(1, 13)" Control - Neutral="(0, 89)" Control - Reverse Gear="(0, 89)" Control - First Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Second Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Third Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Fourth Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Fifth Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Sixth Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Seventh Gear="(0, 89)" Control - Clutch In="(0, 16)" Control - Display Mode="(1, 18)" Control - Pit Request="(0, 31)" Control - Pit Menu Up="(0, 200)" Control - Pit Menu Down="(0, 208)" Control - Pit Menu Inc="(0, 205)" Control - Pit Menu Dec="(0, 203)" Control - TCOverride="(0, 24)" Control - Launch Control="(0, 57)" Control - Speed Limiter="(1, 20)" Control - Bias Forward="(1, 17)" Control - Bias Rearward="(1, 19)" Control - Look Left="(1, 15)" Control - Look Right="(1, 16)" Control - Rear Look="(1, 35)" Control - Instant Replay="(0, 19)" Control - Pause="(0, 25)" Control - Restart Race="(0, 21)" Control - Zero HMD="(0, 89)" Control - Display Vehicle Labels="(0, 15)" Control - Ignition="(0, 89)" Control - Starter="(0, 89)" Control - Horn="(0, 157)" Control - Headlights="(0, 89)" Control - Handbrake="(0, 89)" Control - Look Up="(0, 89)" Control - Look Down="(0, 89)" Control - Look Roll Left="(0, 89)" Control - Look Roll Right="(0, 89)" FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel, 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad. FFB Effects Level="4" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects, 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom. FFB Gain="1.00000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0. FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis. FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis. FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.20000" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration. FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.03500" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point). FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude). FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB steer force average weight="0.60000" // How much weight is given to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0). Lower values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency. FFB steer force exponent="0.80000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity. FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction). FFB steer force output max="1.80000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0 FFB steer force grip weight="0.90000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force. FFB steer update thresh="0.01500" // Amount of change required to update steer force/vibe (0.0 - 1.0). Lower values = steering force updated more frequently = lower frame rate. FFB steer friction coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering friction. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 FFB steer friction saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering friction. Range: 0 - 1.0 FFB steer damper coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering damper. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 FFB steer damper saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering damper. Range: 0 - 1.0 FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.17000" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency. Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50 FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.09000" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point). FFB throttle vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude). FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB throttle vibe update thresh="0.08000" // Amount of change required to update throttle vibe (0.0 - 1.0) FFB brake vibe freq mult="0.90000" // Scales actual brake rotational frequency to force feedback vibration frequency. FFB brake vibe zero magnitude="0.10000" // Magnitude of brake vibration at 0mph (reference point). FFB brake vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB brake vibe zero magnitude). FFB brake vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB brake vibe update thresh="0.05000" // Amount of change required to update brake vibe (0.0 to 1.0) FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.35000" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect. FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.60000" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev. FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB rumble strip pull factor="-1.50000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5. FFB rumble strip update thresh="0.07500" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0) FFB jolt magnitude="1.00000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0. FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring __________________________________________________________________________ "Gary Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Mitch, > I tried once again to copy the info from the player.ini file from ETC03and > paste it to the .ini file of the original sim, but that didn't workeither. > I then went in to the profiler and deleted the entry for F1C and tried > running the sim and that didn't help (I don't have a profile for ETC03, soI > thought it might help to delete the profile for F1C). So I built a new > profile for F1C and that didn't work. > I made sure all my settings in F1C matched my settings in ETC03 and itstill > didn't want to work. > Is there an .ini file (or some other file) that contains information > relevant to the feedback of FF wheels? Even in ETC03 I don't feel the car > get loose, which is really what I'm looking for. Is it even possible to > feel forces such as these with a FF wheel or am I wasting my time? I knowI > should be feeling crashes into walls and rumble strips, so I know I'm not > spinning my wheels over that one (so to speak). > What setting(s) needs to be changed in order to adjust the force at which > you feel contact with the wall? I only feel minimal effects right now,and

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> would like to increase it a bit? > > -- > Thanks again for any help, > Gary Beard > >

Mitch, It IS a USB wheel...is that a bad thing? It's not going through a USB hub so the bandwidth shouldn't be an issue if that is where you were headed. In the profiler I have the same settings under the wheel axis as you and just minimal differences in the global settings. I'll set them as you have them and make sure they match the control panel and see if that helps. -- Thanks again, Gary Beard

Yea thats where I was headed :-) If you use those wheel settings and my player.ini controller section then we should have the same feel. Check your controller settings again after you change the ini and be sure FF is enabled and set to wheel and is -100. Also re-map any custom keys. Be aware a few of the mod makers arent able to diferentiate between a game keystroke and a chat keystroke so you get weird anomalies in chat if you have keys mapped to that particular key. Mitch "Gary Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Mitch, > It IS a USB wheel...is that a bad thing? It's not going through a USB hub > so the bandwidth shouldn't be an issue if that is where you were headed. > In the profiler I have the same settings under the wheel axis as you and > just minimal differences in the global settings. I'll set them as youhave

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> them and make sure they match the control panel and see if that helps. > > -- > Thanks again, > Gary Beard > >

Mitch, I tried your settings and have some twitching in the wheel, but no feedback from the road or contact with the walls. I'll go back and try to dial that twitchiness out of the wheel (it just sort of jerks to the right or left occasionally). I do get feedback from the ETC03 mod for the sim, but not in F1C. So, I don't think it's a hardware problem. I've made certain that all the settings within F1C are set the same as in ETC03 but I don't get the same feedback (I feel the rumble strips in ETC03 but not in F1C, and I feel wall contact in ETC03 but not in F1C). I have copied the ini from the mod to the original sim and that didn't help. I copied someone else's ini file to F1C and that didn't work. I don't believe I copied your ini file yet...I'll try that tonight. I have not tried remapping the keys, which I'll do this evening as well! -- Thanks again for all your input Mitch, Gary Beard

"Gary Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in . > I do get feedback from the ETC03 mod for the sim, but not in F1C. So, > I don't think it's a hardware problem. I've made certain that all the > settings within F1C are set the same as in ETC03 but I don't get the > same feedback (I feel the rumble strips in ETC03 but not in F1C, and I > feel wall contact in ETC03 but not in F1C). > So what you are saying is SOMETHING in the ETCC mod is providing more FF than the basic mod. AND, since you have tried cutting and pasting, it's something not found in the .plr file. So we have to find out what the ETCC boys have done to modify this. I'd suggest a trip to their homepage/website or forum(racesimcentral I would suppose) dave henrie

Dave, Thanks for the post! You're exactly right. I don't think it's in the plr file. I may be overlooking a setting somewhere though. I can't imagine nobody has heard of this before, so I doubt the ETCC guys have done anything special. The problem really lies in the fact that I'm not feeling the rumble strips or walls in F1C. I'm sure most, if not everybody using a Momo (black) are feeling these in F1C...but I'm not. So, therefore I don't think it's something in ETCC that's not in F1C, but rather probably a setting I'm missing somewhere (which is what I'm trying to get to the bottom of). Do we know ALL the settings that effect the amount of feedback felt through the wheel? If so, what are they? I've adjusted everything I can find in the profiler, control panel, in the sim and in the .ini file. Are there any other places I need to look? One bonus question...I have a track, Watkins Glen with the boot. Is this track for F1C? It appears to be a GPL track. Do I have to convert the track, or will it work if I just put it in a Watkins Glen folder? -- Thanks, Gary Beard

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> Dave, > Thanks for the post! I've adjusted > everything I can find in the profiler, control panel, in the sim and > in the .ini file. Are there any other places I need to look? > One bonus question...I have a track, Watkins Glen with the boot. Is > this track for F1C? It appears to be a GPL track. Do I have to > convert the track, or will it work if I just put it in a Watkins Glen > folder? > > -- > Thanks, > Gary Beard > > >

look in the watkins glenn zip. Is the biggest file a .dat file or .mas file. .dat is Papyrus(GPL/Nr2k2). .mas is for ISI(F1c). if it's a .mas track, then unzip it to f1c\seasondata\circuits. Some tracks have installers, some need to be unzipped or unrarred. ps...quick question about your controller settings. Is the FF slider in F1c set to a NEGATIVE value? Should be for all the mods. So something like -66% or -90%(whatever values you prefer) dave henrie

Dave, I do have the controller setting in F1C in the negative, usually around -75%. The Watkins Glen track is a .dat file I believe which is what made me believe it was a GPL track. Is this track available for F1C? Wait a minute. I think I have the track in both .dat AND .mas format. The .mas track is in a folder called 1999_Glen. I'll mess around with that one and see if I can get it to work. One last thing...is there an .ini file in F1C? I thought that was what I was changing, but now I just changed a .plr file. Was I mistaken before and just thought the .plr was an .ini? Or, have I been editing two different files? -- Thanks yet again, Gary Beard

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> Dave, > I do have the controller setting in F1C in the negative, usually > around -75%. > The Watkins Glen track is a .dat file I believe which is what made me > believe it was a GPL track. Is this track available for F1C? Wait a > minute. I think I have the track in both .dat AND .mas format. The > .mas track is in a folder called 1999_Glen. I'll mess around with > that one and see if I can get it to work. > One last thing...is there an .ini file in F1C? I thought that was > what I was changing, but now I just changed a .plr file. Was I > mistaken before and just thought the .plr was an .ini? Or, have I > been editing two different files? > > > -- > Thanks yet again, > Gary Beard > > >

There are config.ini files that start the sim/mod. THen there is also a .plr file. Which keeps your driver's settings and info. Probably more ini files tucked around but that is the two main ones. dave henrie