Avaults review ---------- point 3 ------------------

Avault's irreverence is indeed disturbing. We must remember, however, that Avault is reaching out to the heathen among us, who may not yet have seen the light. The unclean seek titilation through lurid colors and raucous 'music,' because their senses have been dulled to the finer pleasures of debating differential settings. Indeed, they are - pardon my language - _gamers_ in the truest sense. While not failing to see the error of their ways, let us nevertheless have compassion upon their fallen state. But for the grace of Jane's and Sierra go we there also. rob.

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> another comment ------------- he says >"graphics are good ...................... but gives no sense of awe or >wonder.................." > Beg your pardon ????????????????/ > I think the graphics are what actually are instrumental in the >overall popularity are effects of the sim. (not GAME -- D**BF**K !!) > I think the actually give that feeling that I have quoted more than >any other quote as a kid ------------ and when I was a cop --------- > It was a quote directly from the movie "GRAND PRIX" ---------- > and the line is spoken by J P SARTI --------- (Yves Montand) ---- >during the MONACO GRAND PRIX --------------- it follows ----------- > " I think the if we thought -------- really thought ---------- what >it would be like to go into a tree at one hundred twenty miles per >hour -------------------- we would probably never get into the car in >the first place ---------- " > "So to do something really dangerous -------- takes a certain ABSENCE >of imagination." > ( I am quoting from memory --------- didn't go to the film to find >the EXACT quote --------- but this is pretty darn close ----- I am >sure.) > Avault has no concept as to what this sim is about --------------- >but this is indicative of journalism today ------------ sub-par >reporting ----------- by sub-par "reporters" ------ > ANOTHER related issure here --------------- now that I am on the >subject ------------ > A recent issue of PC GAMER (I think) had a report by some dweeb >concerning GPL ---------- > I was impressed by his knowledge of the sim and his "SO-CALLED" >review and report ----------- when he referred to GRANT HILL ( !!!!! ) >rather than ------------------------ GRAHAM HILL ------------ > Prefessionalism abounds in that industry ------------------ > YEAH --------- RIGHT > Doug

another comment ------------- he says "graphics are good ...................... but gives no sense of awe or wonder.................." Beg your pardon ????????????????/ I think the graphics are what actually are instrumental in the overall popularity are effects of the sim. (not GAME -- D**BF**K !!) I think the actually give that feeling that I have quoted more than any other quote as a kid ------------ and when I was a cop --------- It was a quote directly from the movie "GRAND PRIX" ---------- and the line is spoken by J P SARTI --------- (Yves Montand) ---- during the MONACO GRAND PRIX --------------- it follows ----------- " I think the if we thought -------- really thought ---------- what it would be like to go into a tree at one hundred twenty miles per hour -------------------- we would probably never get into the car in the first place ---------- " "So to do something really dangerous -------- takes a certain ABSENCE of imagination." ( I am quoting from memory --------- didn't go to the film to find the EXACT quote --------- but this is pretty darn close ----- I am sure.) Avault has no concept as to what this sim is about --------------- but this is indicative of journalism today ------------ sub-par reporting ----------- by sub-par "reporters" ------ ANOTHER related issure here --------------- now that I am on the subject ------------ A recent issue of PC GAMER (I think) had a report by some dweeb concerning GPL ---------- I was impressed by his knowledge of the sim and his "SO-CALLED" review and report ----------- when he referred to GRANT HILL ( !!!!! ) rather than ------------------------ GRAHAM HILL ------------ Prefessionalism abounds in that industry ------------------ YEAH --------- RIGHT Doug

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>Avault's irreverence is indeed disturbing. We must remember, >however, that Avault is reaching out to the heathen among us, >who may not yet have seen the light. The unclean seek titilation through >lurid colors and raucous 'music,' because their senses have been >dulled to the finer pleasures of debating differential settings. Indeed, >they are - pardon my language - _gamers_ in the truest sense. While >not failing to see the error of their ways, let us nevertheless have >compassion upon their fallen state. But for the grace of Jane's and >Sierra go we there also.

That is not the case. Me and the guy's from work have been racing GPL, and none of them have even played a racing game before, (they are mostly into 1st person shooters, and real time strategy games) and they all love GPL. GPL appeals to more people than just the hard core sim racer. I consider myself an arcade racer, and I think GPL is one of the best racing games ever.

There's a valid point here. GPL isn't really for casual gamers, it's for people who like to drive -- or have always wanted to drive -- race cars. That includes what, 60% of the male population? (Spot the spur of the moment statistic). I found out yesterday that a mate's elderly father became a GPL junkie at the weekend. Previously he'd seen his son's hobby as a complete and utter waste of time, effort, money, and life. Then my mate persuaded him to sit down with GPL for ten minutes. Left him alone in the room with the PC and... the rest is history. In my opinion Papyrus/Sierra should be selling this sim to real car drivers as much as the PC *** audience. It marks a change in simulation standards and target audience. This is software that sells PC's. Andrew McP

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>I found out yesterday that a mate's elderly father became a GPL junkie at >the weekend. Previously he'd seen his son's hobby as a complete and utter >waste of time, effort, money, and life. Then my mate persuaded him to sit >down with GPL for ten minutes. Left him alone in the room with the PC >and... the rest is history. >In my opinion Papyrus/Sierra should be selling this sim to real car >drivers as much as the PC *** audience. It marks a change in simulation >standards and target audience. This is software that sells PC's.

They are (and good for them)! I've seen an ad for GPL in the latest issue of RACER (though a mag intended for a motorsports fan, they are car buffs as well), and today I just got the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports (one of the best periodicals out there for the gear-head/racer!), and lo and behold, a two page GPL ad is in there as well. Good job at getting at the "non-gamer" market, Papy! Doc Wynne CSP #25 Miata TRSCCA Webmaster [link lost in import] -- Never a late apex, never a dull moment.

> I've seen an ad for GPL in the latest issue of RACER (though a >mag intended for a motorsports fan, they are car buffs as well), >and today I just got the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports >(one of the best periodicals out there for the gear-head/racer!), >and lo and behold, a two page GPL ad is in there as well. I also applaud Sierra's marketing the game towards real drivers, but does it have to be that stupid ad claiming that driver fatalities led to rule changes in '68? Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!