gpl or monaco

I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make a decision. thanks Mark

Grand Prix Legends: PRO's: - you have a Kick-Ass system. GPL will be beautiful. Do you have a cable modem, too? :o) - GPL is the best racing game known to mankind - GPL will keep you up all night it is so damn fun - GPL is the best racing game known to mankind - Great tracks - the 14 mile Nurburgring, LONG Spa (8.7 miles), Mosport, Kyalami, Monza (withOUT the chicanes), MONACO, .... etc.etc.. (11 FANTASTIC "Legendary" TRACKS) - Fantastic Legendary CARS: Ferrari (sounds amazing), Lotus, Brabham, BRM , Eagle + 2 "fantasy" cars: Coventry (ie: Cooper), and Masamura (ie: Honda) - Fantastic Internet Play - GPL is the best racing game known to mankind - Phenomenal attention to detail - Crash and burn (literally!) - You will be able to drive a car better, using your "performance" driving skills learned in GPL - and a MILLION more reasons Grand Prix Legends: Con's - You might find yourself getting a speeding ticket on your way to work - Your wife/girlfriend/significant other(inc. pet***atiel) may leave you - You will lose sleep - You will not have a social life (except for you Net Racing friends) - It will "ruin" your opinion of every other racing game out there. MGPR2: Pro's: -hmmmm It's got Monaco! MGPR2: Con's: - some say it is "worse" than the original F1RS - still buggy - still has crappy menus - after driving GPL, F1RS, MGPR2 is "ruined", as it just isn't as "real" - no real teams - GPL has Monaco too! I urge you, implore you, beg you... DON'T buy MGRP2. You will be wasting your money. GPL is THE racing game of the Year, Decade, Century, etc.etc. (and if for some strange reason you don't like it - can't image why not.. but IF, Sierra has a money-back Satisfaction guarantee). Oh, did I mention GPL is the best racing game known to mankind? doktorB http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl -- Exclusive offer: PDPI L4 Digital Gamecard ONLY $80.95 US with Passwords on my site Get rid of Jitters & poor framerates today! -- >I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. >I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone >give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make >a decision. >thanks Mark

GPL Pros: AWESOME physics model Driving is fantastinc (once you get the hang of it) AI is pretty good (but still has problems, I wont go into that) You can get it from EBWorld for $34.99 (shipping included) Ferrari sound You can play it over the internet GPL Cons: It's really damn hard It needs a really fast computer (which you have, so this isnt really a con) MGPRS2 Pros: (note * I've only played the demo *) Graphics are pretty Cars look quite nice ...? MGPRS2 Cons: I heard it's buggy No real F1 license (download new carsets) Sound sucks prolly some other stuff to... I dont have it Brian Short > I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. > I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone > give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make > a decision. > thanks Mark

I bought Monaco about a week before GPL came out. I payed Monaco a lot, updated the tracks and cars and basically had a lot of fun... Then GPL came out. I haven't played Monaco since. From Chequered Flag to F1RS2 I've played them all (Well almost), nothing comes close to GPL.

> I urge you, implore you, beg you... DON'T buy MGRP2. You will be wasting > your money. GPL is THE racing game of the Year, Decade, Century, etc.etc. > (and if for some strange reason you don't like it - can't image why not.. > but IF, Sierra has a money-back Satisfaction guarantee). > Oh, did I mention GPL is the best racing game known to mankind? is there no passion left in the world?

Quoted text (8 lines)

>> I urge you, implore you, beg you... DON'T buy MGRP2. You will be wasting >> your money. GPL is THE racing game of the Year, Decade, Century, etc.etc. >> (and if for some strange reason you don't like it - can't image why not.. >> but IF, Sierra has a money-back Satisfaction guarantee). >> Oh, did I mention GPL is the best racing game known to mankind? >is there no passion left in the world?

GPL is a real passion at 2 fps.

Yeah... but he's got a kick-ass system.. that's why i was so passionate about my reply! If he'd had a p-133... I might have told him to upgrade.. doktorB > GPL is a real passion at 2 fps.

Cossie wrote Sorry your PC can't support it. Welcome to the *** world buddy. It's an expensive hobby, as you see. Of course, there's an OpenGL beta patch available. If your video card doesn't support OpenGL rasterizer, you need to really change it to be "up-to-date" with about every game out in the shelves in the future. Still, you can say NO words against GPL since you never really "tried it". Because if you would see it scream in 1024x768 at 36fps drafting at Spa with a Ferrari, you will easily see how it lets MGP really in the dust heavily. - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

If you can, buy both. Each one is excellent. Ever heard NFL fans (or European soccer fans) talk about their favorite players or teams? Either the team or player "sucks" or "is the best ever". That's what you'll get here at r.a.s. when you ask a question like yours. Not too any months ago, what you heard at r.a.s. was that F1RS was the ultimate of all racing sims, nothing else came close, and all the others "sucked". Now the same thing is said about GPL. All the adjectives you hear being used about GPL now, were used then, often by the same people. Before either one the ultimate was GP2. They'll be another new "ultimate" eventually. MGP is a significantly improved version of F1RS. The handling of the cars doesn't even feel similiar to F1RS as far as I'm concerned. MGP is a simulator of modern F1 racing and GPL is a simulator of 60's F1 racing. The two types of racing are so different that comparing them to each other is like comparing NASCAR racing to CART. What you buy depends on what type of racing you'd prefer. People will say that the physics engine of GPL is superior and that's why it's the better sim. Unless they were in the offices and worked on both sims, I'm not sure how they can claim to know this for a fact but they sure act like they do. I personally think that both sims probably have complex enough physics engines that the difference is negligible. Also, without the feedback a person gets while driving a real car, a sim can have a great physics engine but still not deliver a realistic driving "experience". A sim with a less detailed physics engine can give a more realisitic driving experience if the absence of real life feedback is compensated for in a superior way. Like I said, I think they both are fantastic (even with their flaws) and I'd highly recommend each of them. They're my two favorite sims. If you end up not liking one, just return it. David G Fisher >I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. >I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone >give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make >a decision. >thanks Mark

I agree with David.I've had MGP for a week now and must say it's a big improvement over F1RS.The feel and balance of the cars is way better,full opposite lock power slides are possible,the difficulty is much higher,and the editor is easy to use.If you're into modern F1 racing it's a must buy. As for GPL,it's really that great,just buy it already!

Quoted text (37 lines)

> If you can, buy both. Each one is excellent. > Ever heard NFL fans (or European soccer fans) talk about their favorite > players or teams? Either the team or player "sucks" or "is the best ever". > That's what you'll get here at r.a.s. when you ask a question like yours. > Not too any months ago, what you heard at r.a.s. was that F1RS was the > ultimate of all racing sims, nothing else came close, and all the others > "sucked". Now the same thing is said about GPL. All the adjectives you hear > being used about GPL now, were used then, often by the same people. Before > either one the ultimate was GP2. They'll be another new "ultimate" > eventually. > MGP is a significantly improved version of F1RS. The handling of the cars > doesn't even feel similiar to F1RS as far as I'm concerned. > MGP is a simulator of modern F1 racing and GPL is a simulator of 60's F1 > racing. The two types of racing are so different that comparing them to each > other is like comparing NASCAR racing to CART. What you buy depends on what > type of racing you'd prefer. > People will say that the physics engine of GPL is superior and that's why > it's the better sim. Unless they were in the offices and worked on both > sims, I'm not sure how they can claim to know this for a fact but they sure > act like they do. I personally think that both sims probably have complex > enough physics engines that the difference is negligible. Also, without the > feedback a person gets while driving a real car, a sim can have a great > physics engine but still not deliver a realistic driving "experience". A sim > with a less detailed physics engine can give a more realisitic driving > experience if the absence of real life feedback is compensated for in a > superior way. > Like I said, I think they both are fantastic (even with their flaws) and I'd > highly recommend each of them. They're my two favorite sims. If you end up > not liking one, just return it. > David G Fisher

Everyone should read and study this post. This Is probably the most intelligent post I've seen on this NG in over a year. Well thought out and logical with out all the bullshit and hype and doesn't talk about technical stuff or real world realism that he has no real knowledge of(unlike many). Great piece of work David-refreshing.Paul

At last, a sensible post on this subject! If only we could get rid of all the '??? sucks' guys from RAS, and also ones who comment on sims with only having used demo versions or not tried at all! Mark, take heed of David's comments and buy both. Iain

Quoted text (18 lines)

>If you can, buy both. Each one is excellent. >Ever heard NFL fans (or European soccer fans) talk about their favorite >players or teams? Either the team or player "sucks" or "is the best ever". >That's what you'll get here at r.a.s. when you ask a question like yours. >Not too any months ago, what you heard at r.a.s. was that F1RS was the >ultimate of all racing sims, nothing else came close, and all the others >"sucked". Now the same thing is said about GPL. All the adjectives you hear >being used about GPL now, were used then, often by the same people. Before >either one the ultimate was GP2. They'll be another new "ultimate" >eventually. >MGP is a significantly improved version of F1RS. The handling of the cars >doesn't even feel similiar to F1RS as far as I'm concerned. >MGP is a simulator of modern F1 racing and GPL is a simulator of 60's F1 >racing. The two types of racing are so different that comparing them to

each

Quoted text (10 lines)

>other is like comparing NASCAR racing to CART. What you buy depends on what >type of racing you'd prefer. >People will say that the physics engine of GPL is superior and that's why >it's the better sim. Unless they were in the offices and worked on both >sims, I'm not sure how they can claim to know this for a fact but they sure >act like they do. I personally think that both sims probably have complex >enough physics engines that the difference is negligible. Also, without the >feedback a person gets while driving a real car, a sim can have a great >physics engine but still not deliver a realistic driving "experience". A

sim >with a less detailed physics engine can give a more realisitic driving >experience if the absence of real life feedback is compensated for in a >superior way. >Like I said, I think they both are fantastic (even with their flaws) and I'd

Quoted text (12 lines)

>highly recommend each of them. They're my two favorite sims. If you end up >not liking one, just return it. >David G Fisher >>I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. >>I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone >>give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make >>a decision. >>thanks Mark

GPL, it is the definitive racing simulation. John > I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. > I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone > give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make > a decision. > thanks Mark

Exactly the same experience here, bought Monaco the day it came out, updated everything, played it extensively for a week, then GPL came out. For the first week I was getting by on three hours sleep a night due to extensive practice and on-line racing. I've managed to cut back on GPL a bit now, so I am now getting nearly 5 hours sleep a night :) I thought I would go back to Monaco at the weekend, but all my enthusiasm for it had gone, I barely managed to finish one qualifying session let alone a race before going back to GPL. -- Sean Black

Depends whose posts you read, surely? I see a lot of objectivity now I've learned whose posts to concentrate on. Of course the *only* opinion that counts is the individual's. Fortunately both GPL and F1rs2 have demos so he can make up his own mind. Personally, I played both demos. I bought GPL... and deleted everything else :-) Andrew McP

On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:44:52 -0400, "David G Fisher" >Ever heard NFL fans (or European soccer fans) talk about their favorite >players or teams? Either the team or player "sucks" or "is the best ever". >That's what you'll get here at r.a.s. when you ask a question like yours. You'll also get sensible comments sprinkled among the hyperbole - all that is sure is that if you don't ask, you wont receive. Cheers! John

Quoted text (7 lines)

> >GPL, it is the definitive racing simulation. > Or possibly more accurately "GPL is the current definitve simulation for > racing enthusiasts". If someone is only interested in NASCAR, CART or > modern day F1 then GPL won't hold all that much attraction. OTOH if you are > interested in the actual driving and racing experience then nothing tops > GPL at present.

I wouldn't see it that black and white anymore. After driving GPL for the first couple of days I thought MGPR is of no interest anymore, but then I started to miss the feeling of driving a high downforce modern F1 car. So now I just timeslice between the two sims, which of course introduces another problem: readjusting to the different driving styles...(damn, this Lotus has bad brakes!!! ;^) l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Buy GPL for the challenge and F1RS to find out that you are not to stupid to drive :-) Jens --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

haha how true...should get both if money permits.....or then again get dethkarz. ..................................................... Holger Liebnitz Team-Dethkarz

Quoted text (18 lines)

>Buy GPL for the challenge and F1RS to find out that you are not to >stupid to drive :-) >Jens >>I'm not sure whether to buy legends or mgpr2. >>I have a pentium 400 with a voodoo 2. Can someone >>give me the pros and cons of each game so I can make >>a decision. >>thanks Mark >--------------------------------------------- >Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address