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GPL undocumented feature

22 posts by 18 people · 22 Oct 1998 - 10 Nov 1998

GPL driver aids bug and the rev telltale explained

A user reported that driver aids switched on after changing cars, and Papyrus's Eric Busch fixed it by suggesting deleting controls.cfg. The thread then explained that the red needle on GPL's tachometer is a telltale showing peak revs, reset with Shift-T as documented in the readme, and discussed when it resets on its own.

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Peter Ho 22 Oct 1998#429607
I've just discovered a bug in GPL, not major but annoying. If I go to the Player Info screen and change cars, then return to Training or a race, all the Drivers Aids are turned on although when I go to the Options|Sound & Gameplay screen, they are shown as turned off. After I return from the Options, the Aids are now off. Peter Holt
Quoted text (7 lines)> I've just discovered a bug in GPL, not major but annoying. If I go to > the Player Info screen and change cars, then return to Training or a > race, all the Drivers Aids are turned on although when I go to the > Options|Sound & Gameplay screen, they are shown as turned off. After > I return from the Options, the Aids are now off. > Peter Holt
..and I can confirm this bug. Happens to me too. /petern
Eric Busch 22 Oct 1998#429609
Try deleting controls.cfg from gpl/players/player_name, then after you recalibrate and reassign your controls see if this still happens. - Eric
Peter Ho 23 Oct 1998#429875
Thanks, Eric, after this it went away. Peter Holt
Quoted text (14 lines)>Try deleting controls.cfg from gpl/players/player_name, then after you >recalibrate and reassign your controls see if this still happens. >- Eric >>I've just discovered a bug in GPL, not major but annoying. If I go >to >>the Player Info screen and change cars, then return to Training or a >>race, all the Drivers Aids are turned on although when I go to the >>Options|Sound & Gameplay screen, they are shown as turned off. After >>I return from the Options, the Aids are now off.
MeatWater 28 Oct 1998#431060
I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears?
Jason Monds 28 Oct 1998#431061
> I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. > This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an > idea of what use that could be? > Maybe to setup your gears? Exactly. If you accidently over-revved the engine and want to monitor further destructive behaviour, just press SHIFT-T to reset the red-indicator. -- -------- Jason Monds (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
Trips 28 Oct 1998#431062
The red needle is the "tattletale", it shows the highest revs you've run until you reset it with Shift-T. It's documented, by the way. Trips > I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. > This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an > idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears?
RuuD 28 Oct 1998#431063
> I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. > This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an > idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears? From the readme.txt in the gamedir KEYBOARD HOTKEYS The following list of keyboard hotkeys can be used from within the car: ESC - Return to Pits/Retire F1 - Help Display F2 - View Replay (Single Player Only) F3 - Options (Single Player Only) F10 - Toggle Driving View PAUSE - Pause/Continue Game (Single Player Only) ENTER - Type/Send Chat Message (Multiplayer Only) ALT+F - Toggle Frame Rate Display SHIFT+R - Car Reset (see section below) SHIFT+T - TellTale Reset But Please don't ask what it is!! -- Greetings :)RuuD? +------------------------------+
Bley 28 Oct 1998#431064
says... The red marker is showing the highest revs at which you've run the engine. Shift-T is a documented command and is to reset the marker. I usually reset once each lap, at the start finish line, so I can watch what my max RPMs are during the upcoming lap. It really helps to point out if you are over-reving at any part of the lap.
doktorB 28 Oct 1998#431065
Don't forget when you're in online multiplayer mode: ~ to open the chat window when NOT in the car Alt-L for Latency (internet delay, like a ping) Note: Chat window must be CLOSED when you perform this function. Open the chat windows ("~") and you will see the response. Incidentally, in the chat window, you can use the up and down arrow keys to scroll through the messages. Didn't know about this until I suddenly got stuck not being able to see what I was typing! (finally figured it out!) doktorB http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl
Quoted text (14 lines)>KEYBOARD HOTKEYS >The following list of keyboard hotkeys can be used from within the car: > ESC - Return to Pits/Retire > F1 - Help Display > F2 - View Replay (Single Player Only) > F3 - Options (Single Player Only) > F10 - Toggle Driving View > PAUSE - Pause/Continue Game (Single Player Only) > ENTER - Type/Send Chat Message (Multiplayer Only) > ALT+F - Toggle Frame Rate Display > SHIFT+R - Car Reset (see section below) > SHIFT+T - TellTale Reset
MeatWater 29 Oct 1998#431304
Thanks everybody. By the way, I went through the (german) manual twice now, but couldn't find a trace of this feature.
Hi, In noticed that this telltale thingy sometimes gets reset by itself. I don't look at the gauges during a race often, and I never saw the reset happen. But sometimes the red needle is moving simultaneously with the rev counter, so it must have been reset. Does anyone know why and when this happens? Thanks, Johan.
Quoted text (11 lines)> The red needle is the "tattletale", it shows the highest revs you've > run until you reset it with Shift-T. It's documented, by the way. > Trips > > I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. > > This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an > > idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears?
Walk Walker 29 Oct 1998#431308
I believe it's called a telltale reset (shift+t). It tells the tale of a driver over revving an engine. -/- WW
user nam 29 Oct 1998#431309
The only other way I know of to reset the telltale is when you hit Shift-R, which resets everything, including cold tires :-(
Quoted text (26 lines)> Hi, > In noticed that this telltale thingy sometimes gets reset by itself. I > don't look at the gauges during a race often, and I never saw the reset > happen. But sometimes the red needle is moving simultaneously with the > rev counter, so it must have been reset. > Does anyone know why and when this happens? > Thanks, > Johan. > > The red needle is the "tattletale", it shows the highest revs you've > > run until you reset it with Shift-T. It's documented, by the way. > > Trips > > > I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. > > > This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an > > > idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears?
EldredP 29 Oct 1998#431310
Quoted text (9 lines)>says... >> I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. >> This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an >> idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears? >The red marker is showing the highest revs at which you've run the >engine. Shift-T is a documented command and is to reset the marker. I >usually reset once each lap, at the start finish line, so I can watch >what my max RPMs are during the upcoming lap. It really helps to point >out if you are over-reving at any part of the lap.
I saw in the manual it was called 'telltale reset'. It didn't say what the hell it was FOR, though...and it didn't seem to DO anything..... Thanks. ________ Eldred Pickett e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...
That can't be it because shift-R doesn't work in PRO races. Anyone else have a clue?
Quoted text (32 lines)> The only other way I know of to reset the telltale is when you hit > Shift-R, which resets everything, including cold tires :-( > > Hi, > > In noticed that this telltale thingy sometimes gets reset by itself. I > > don't look at the gauges during a race often, and I never saw the reset > > happen. But sometimes the red needle is moving simultaneously with the > > rev counter, so it must have been reset. > > Does anyone know why and when this happens? > > Thanks, > > Johan. > > > The red needle is the "tattletale", it shows the highest revs you've > > > run until you reset it with Shift-T. It's documented, by the way. > > > Trips > > > > I wonder if anyone has noticed this: when inside the car, hit <shift>+T. > > > > This will make the red rev indicator move downwards. Does anyone have an > > > > idea of what use that could be? Maybe to setup your gears?
ymenard 30 Oct 1998#431518
Johan Foederer wrote It is normal. You can't shift-R in such races. - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s
David Ewing 30 Oct 1998#431519
If I remember correctly (I'm at work and can't verify this) the TellTale indicator is reset every time you leave the pits. Dave Ewing
Quoted text (9 lines)> That can't be it because shift-R doesn't work in PRO races. > Anyone else have a clue? > > The only other way I know of to reset the telltale is when you hit > > Shift-R, which resets everything, including cold tires :-(
Marty U'Ren 08 Nov 1998#433332
Quoted text (11 lines)> Hi, > In noticed that this telltale thingy sometimes gets reset by itself. I > don't look at the gauges during a race often, and I never saw the reset > happen. But sometimes the red needle is moving simultaneously with the > rev counter, so it must have been reset. > Does anyone know why and when this happens? > Thanks, > Johan.
I've noticed the telltale reset itself when I get a screen flash/clock smash when playing online. It hasn't happend again that I've noticed since I switched modems and solved the problem. Marty
So what modem did you have Marty? And what do you have now?
Quoted text (19 lines)> > Hi, > > In noticed that this telltale thingy sometimes gets reset by itself. I > > don't look at the gauges during a race often, and I never saw the reset > > happen. But sometimes the red needle is moving simultaneously with the > > rev counter, so it must have been reset. > > Does anyone know why and when this happens? > > Thanks, > > Johan. > I've noticed the telltale reset itself when I get a screen flash/clock smash > when playing online. > It hasn't happend again that I've noticed since I switched modems and solved the > problem. > Marty
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