MONACO GPRS2 by Ubisoft??????

anyone know about this game? is it a newer version of f1rs?? it is already out in HongKong...should i get it right away? or should i get GPL? it is out too in HongKong... or both? so little money...so many games....

Philip Kan wrote Yes ;-) At some extenct.. yes it's just a "newer" "updated" version. Like the EA Sports game line, that has a better version each year.. (NHL 93/4/5/6/7/8). It has better physics, and some bugs fixed and add-ons. No FIA License still... Well it depends about the lines under... ;-) I would say from a Hard-core SimRacer point of view you should get this one. It's not just better than MGP, but it's a fully realistic product that really puts MonacoGP in the dust. With a true-life game engine and realistic physics. Incredible tracks. Better and crisper (less arcadish) graphics IMHO. Just check out this newsgroup and you will understand. For 1 MonacoGP post you have 20 GPL posts. Since about 90% of us are all a bunch of hard-core crazy SimRacers, it's representative to the quality of the product. Since 1month I've seen at least 50 post of people saying "Oh my God ! It's soo incredible and realistic yadda yadda yadda". I've never seen that for MonacoGP. Just the fact of having the Nurburgring (24km and 176corners) is enough for the purchase of GPL. Both is better than just 1 ;-) . MonacoGP is still a great racing simulator (the second best presently after GPL). But racing GPL really spoils all other racing simulators, since all the other feel "arcadish" and unrealistic somehow... Of course ;-) - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

dude, not everyone have a computer to run GPL.... 2fps w/o 3dfx support

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>Philip Kan wrote >> anyone know about this game? >Just check out this newsgroup and you will understand. For 1 MonacoGP post >you have 20 GPL posts. Since about 90% of us are all a bunch of hard-core >crazy SimRacers, it's representative to the quality of the product. Since >1month I've seen at least 50 post of people saying "Oh my God ! It's soo >incredible and realistic yadda yadda yadda". I've never seen that for >MonacoGP.

I think Monaco GPRS2 is great (I've just bought it here in Geneva). It's extremely realistic and graphics wise puts MP's GP2 to shame. The wheel spin is the only thing that is a bit unrealistic as I don't believe that full throttle spins the wheels in 4 and 5 gear (Monza setup) on a dry sunny day. One thing I do like is that you can catch a slide before it get's out of control (unlike in GP2 where it was next to impossible). Just to comment on your observations (the reason for the note), the number of posts is far, far less for MGPRS2 simply because it has not been released outside Europe yet. Even in Europe it was only released this month! I think the posts will multiply rapidly as soon as it's generally released (as will the patches, setups etc. etc.). Regards, Gary.

You're right about the number of posts thing, as it's been in Europe only a week or two and not in the States. Check out "The Unofficial MGPRS2 Site" for new cars tracks, etc.

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>>Philip Kan wrote >>> anyone know about this game? >>Just check out this newsgroup and you will understand. For 1 MonacoGP post >>you have 20 GPL posts. Since about 90% of us are all a bunch of hard-core >>crazy SimRacers, it's representative to the quality of the product. Since >>1month I've seen at least 50 post of people saying "Oh my God ! It's soo >>incredible and realistic yadda yadda yadda". I've never seen that for >>MonacoGP. >I think Monaco GPRS2 is great (I've just bought it here in Geneva). It's >extremely realistic and graphics wise puts MP's GP2 to shame. The wheel

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>is the only thing that is a bit unrealistic as I don't believe that full >throttle spins the wheels in 4 and 5 gear (Monza setup) on a dry sunny day. >One thing I do like is that you can catch a slide before it get's out of >control (unlike in GP2 where it was next to impossible). >Just to comment on your observations (the reason for the note), the number >of posts is far, far less for MGPRS2 simply because it has not been

released >outside Europe yet. Even in Europe it was only released this month! I think >the posts will multiply rapidly as soon as it's generally released (as will >the patches, setups etc. etc.). >Regards, Gary.

It's not fair to compare the number of posts for a sim that has only been released in Canada & Europe with one that has released almost everywhere. To be honest the availablity ratio is probably about the same if not more one sided. >Just check out this newsgroup and you will understand. For 1 MonacoGP post >you have 20 GPL posts. Since about 90% of us are all a bunch of hard-core >crazy SimRacers, it's representative to the quality of the product. Since >1month I've seen at least 50 post of people saying "Oh my God ! It's soo >incredible and realistic yadda yadda yadda". I've never seen that for >MonacoGP.

I agree. Same with Colin McRae rally. GOD DAMNIT people need to start sending games into the US. >It's not fair to compare the number of posts for a sim that has only been >released in Canada & Europe with one that has released almost everywhere. To

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>be honest the availablity ratio is probably about the same if not more one >sided. >>Just check out this newsgroup and you will understand. For 1 MonacoGP post >>you have 20 GPL posts. Since about 90% of us are all a bunch of hard-core >>crazy SimRacers, it's representative to the quality of the product. Since >>1month I've seen at least 50 post of people saying "Oh my God ! It's soo >>incredible and realistic yadda yadda yadda". I've never seen that for >>MonacoGP.

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> anyone know about this game? is it a newer version of f1rs?? > it is already out in HongKong...should i get it right away? > or should i get GPL? it is out too in HongKong... > or both? > so little money...so many games....

For gods sake, get GPL and forget about Monaco GP. Its just a slightly patched F1RS...

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>> anyone know about this game? is it a newer version of f1rs?? >> it is already out in HongKong...should i get it right away? >> or should i get GPL? it is out too in HongKong... >> or both? >> so little money...so many games.... > For gods sake, get GPL and forget about Monaco GP. Its just a slightly >patched F1RS...

For god sake *** GPL, you need a ***ing PII-333 to run that shit. I can get like 25 fps in Monaco GP 2 with a P-166.

> For god sake *** GPL, you need a ***ing PII-333 to run that shit. I can >get like 25 fps in Monaco GP 2 with a P-166. GPL is fine on an inexpensive P233/V1000 system. Cheers! John

I get that (& more) in GPL with a P200 & an 8mb V2. In a race. With 15 cars. Physics- wise, no contest. I have F1RS, and tried the demo of MGPRS. Not even close. Glad you enjoy it. Steve B.

I have a 266 and GPL runs fine... in a full field of AI it falls to around 10fps at the start (but it seems a bit smoother) and once that clears out, it's fine... though I think I will be getting a Voodoo 2 soon (Dont tell me to get the Thriller... as a lot of games still only support Glide and Direct3D, and because Glide is better than D3D, I'm sticking with the Voodoo cards) Brian Short

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> >> anyone know about this game? is it a newer version of f1rs?? > >> it is already out in HongKong...should i get it right away? > >> or should i get GPL? it is out too in HongKong... > >> or both? > >> so little money...so many games.... > > For gods sake, get GPL and forget about Monaco GP. Its just a slightly > >patched F1RS... > For god sake *** GPL, you need a ***ing PII-333 to run that shit. I can > get like 25 fps in Monaco GP 2 with a P-166.

> >GPL is fine on an inexpensive P233/V1000 system. > not on my 3 year old P-166/trident system Read John's post - Your P-166/Trident does not a "inexpensive 233/v1000" make. -- Marc J. Nelson The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com/ Extinct Track Archive - http://www.simproject.com/eta/ * Switch confused.net with concentric.net to reply...Confused-yet? *

Get both. MGPRS2 (what an acronym!) looks like a minor modified F1RS until you take the car on the track. Then you realise how good it is. The graphics are beautiful as well - different in style, but ,IMO, as good as GPL. What is missing from MGPRS2 is good connectibility - it's only possible to race someone over an IPX link which can be pricey. The warp is also distracting if you haven't got a good line. For the life of me, I can't think why this was not addressed. GPL is simply fantastic. All the posts here are a testimony to that. In contrast to MGP it's got some of the best connectibility in any sim except that the modem to modem link gets really fussy about mismatched bandwidths. Shame, because modem to modem usually gives the least warp. Paul

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> anyone know about this game? is it a newer version of f1rs?? > it is already out in HongKong...should i get it right away? > or should i get GPL? it is out too in HongKong... > or both? > so little money...so many games....

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>> For god sake *** GPL, you need a ***ing PII-333 to run that shit. I can >>get like 25 fps in Monaco GP 2 with a P-166. >GPL is fine on an inexpensive P233/V1000 system. >Cheers! >John

not on my 3 year old P-166/trident system

> For god sake *** GPL, you need a ***ing PII-333 to run that shit. I can > get like 25 fps in Monaco GP 2 with a P-166. I'm doing pretty damn well with my AMD-266 and pure3d 6meg voodoo1. The frame rates (noticable to eye, not measured) seemed fine in both. The reason you need more processor in GPL because it actually deals with some driving physics, whereas Monaco GP seems to forget this part. It really hard to compare these two games, as GPL is a great, realistic race sim, and Monaco GP is an abomination to the car sim genre...

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>> For god sake *** GPL, you need a ***ing PII-333 to run that shit. I can >> get like 25 fps in Monaco GP 2 with a P-166. > I'm doing pretty damn well with my AMD-266 and pure3d 6meg voodoo1. The >frame rates (noticable to eye, not measured) seemed fine in both. The reason >you need more processor in GPL because it actually deals with some driving >physics, whereas Monaco GP seems to forget this part. > It really hard to compare these two games, as GPL is a great, realistic >race sim, and Monaco GP is an abomination to the car sim genre...

How so Tim? For my money, both are probably quite good simulations. While GPl involves driving cars which are definetly a lot more twitchy and power sliding is the thing, MGPRS2 is without a doubt the best modern formula one sim avaliable. I've not driven either a 67 or a 98 car recently (or indeed ever) so i can't comment to either authenticity, but as far as driving goes, they both do what the set out to do very well. The rest is down to personal preference, i guess. Z.

That's right! And stop this childish the-sim-I-like-more-is-better- discussions. Who wants to compare apples and pears? Axel -------------------------------------------------------------- - Axel Schlueter - Fax: (02361) 374058 -