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If you don't have a 3dfx or Verite, pass on GPL

11 posts by 9 people · 21 Oct 1998 - 22 Oct 1998

Dave 21 Oct 1998#429249
I can run gpl with graphic on and get very nice frame rate with a PII 233, 64mb ram, abit lx6 motherboard, and intel740 8mb apg Dave
This isn't meant as a whine, but as an advisory since I still see posts asking about how it performs. I have a 200MMX oc/225, 64MB, Pure 3D (Voodoo1), STB LS128 (ET6000). Test: full graphics except ~50% detail, 640x480, 4 sounds (my usual), sitting in the pits in practice mode (which is when it is only you), novice in an Eagle (these two have little effect on the result). With Voodoo1: 26 fps With software driver on my STB LS128: 5.3 fps! If I turn absolutely everything off, I get up to 17 fps with the software driver. Trust me, you don't want to play it in this mode. Framerate drops to 13 fps in a 6 car race. Again, you don't want to bother. It looks like World Circuit GP1's uglier twin. I can't imagine even a 450 Mhz making enough difference. So, I recommend taking a pass...or (much better option) get a cheap Voodoo1 if you can't stomach spending $100 or so for a Voodoo2. I'd opt Voodoo over Verite since it'll see a lot more use in other sims&games and you're still free with your 2D slot for the TNT or whatever new whiz-bang D3D 2D/3D card comes out.
>I can run gpl with graphic on and get very nice frame rate with a PII 233, >64mb ram, abit lx6 motherboard, and intel740 8mb apg Okay, so I don't know what I'm talking about :-) Good to get data points.
Joe McGinn 22 Oct 1998#429518
>So, I recommend taking a pass...or (much better option) get a cheap Voodoo1 if >you can't stomach spending $100 or so for a Voodoo2. I'd go further ... recommend a pass if you can't stomach buying a Pentium 2 300 at least. Anything less cannot produce acceptable frame-rates for driving this sim. Joe
mang 22 Oct 1998#429519
How do you manage that?considering theres no D3d patch???? >I can run gpl with graphic on and get very nice frame rate with a PII 233, >64mb ram, abit lx6 motherboard, and intel740 8mb apg >Dave
Fred 22 Oct 1998#429520
Quoted text (8 lines)> >So, I recommend taking a pass...or (much better option) get a cheap Voodoo1 if > >you can't stomach spending $100 or so for a Voodoo2. > I'd go further ... recommend a pass if you can't stomach buying a > Pentium 2 300 at least. Anything less cannot produce acceptable > frame-rates for driving this sim. > Joe
GIVE ME A BREAK! I playin on a p225mmx (clokt 200) with 64 mb sdram, and a 4 mb stealth 2 s220, and i can adjust detail levels to get very driveable frame rates. I get 36 in 640x480 with all details turned right up except for mirrors (cars & track) In race I get mid ***s at start and 25 or more depending on what turn off crowds, if i am at the ring i turn off more. Oh and I won't ferget to mention hi speed connect, cable FredG
Tilus 22 Oct 1998#429521
...........and i can adjust detail levels to get very or more depending on what >turn off crowds, if i am at the ring i turn off more...... So, you think that ***s are drivable ?? huh whit 25% details ? no crowd and NO mirror ? and sometimes you turning off even more ? aghaghaghaaaaaa
>>So, I recommend taking a pass...or (much better option) get a cheap Voodoo1 if >>you can't stomach spending $100 or so for a Voodoo2. >I'd go further ... recommend a pass if you can't stomach buying a >Pentium 2 300 at least. Anything less cannot produce acceptable >frame-rates for driving this sim. I beg to differ. With a iP166MMX overclocked to 250 MHz (2.5x100) and a voodoo 1, I get stable 36fps in training (with an occasional drop to 30, but very rarely). This is with everything on but: quality checkboxes, clouds,***pit textures, mirror textures and skid marks; draw ahead bias to 50%, trackside objects to full, four sounds. In a race with 12 AI, I get approx 28 fps, less during the start of course, but more once they're all gone. Undoubtedly, it's better to have more processor power, but the sim is far from undrivable with this setup. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.
>>I can run gpl with graphic on and get very nice frame rate with a PII 233, >>64mb ram, abit lx6 motherboard, and intel740 8mb apg >Okay, so I don't know what I'm talking about :-) >Good to get data points. Yeah, you do know what you're talking about. Look at it this way: if he spent approx. $450 (today) on the parts named above, he could *double* his frame rate (to "very, very nice"? :) by spending another $150 on a Voodoo2/12 or Hercules Thriller 8meg. That's pretty significant bang for the buck. What size CPU (and how much would it cost) for the same benefit? NAR Northeast Regional Contest Board site - points and more...
> So, you think that ***s are drivable ?? huh whit 25% details ? no crowd and > NO mirror ? and sometimes you turning off even more ? > aghaghaghaaaaaa GPL CAN be run on a K6-233 with Thriller 3d 4meg and full detail. Get arround 30fps. It isn't impossible. Bill / Amish on TEN
Joe McGinn 22 Oct 1998#429525
>So, you think that ***s are drivable ?? I don't even find 20s REALLY driveable in GPL. On my old P200 I had to run it in "arcade view", which presents it's own problems (ie., less visual car feedback). Only at 30+ fps am I able to perform serious skid recoveries - not to mention heavy braking without spinning. Joe

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