Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly
acclaimed...
What do people think of them?
Including the new USB models?
How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units?
Redline Race Controls?
Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing
thousands on a unit without some good feedback........
<Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament
it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent",
in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"
Owner opinions on Thomas Super Wheel (TSW) units
Falkentyne asked for feedback on TSW wheels compared with Hypersim, ECCI and Redline. Owners praised TSW's build and customer service, though Steve Smith joked about its looks and one user had repeated pot failures. Logitech's lack of spare parts was noted, and later posts discussed TSW's backlog of USB conversion kits.
hardware: wheels/pedals
Automated summary.
TSW: Still built like a brick sh*thouse, still offer unmatched customer
service, still perform flawlessly, still look like speed equipment for a
1948 Studebaker.
"Falkentyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > acclaimed... > > What do people think of them? > Including the new USB models? > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > Redline Race Controls? > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"
I've had mine for 5 or 6 years.
great workmanship, solid, reliable
I have changed the pots a number of times and the unit is as
good today as the day I got it. good pedals.
Cheers
<Mike>
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> Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > acclaimed... > > What do people think of them? > Including the new USB models? > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > Redline Race Controls? > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"
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I have friends who use the TSW units and they wouldn't use anything else.
In an effort to save money I bought the Logitech Momo Racing FFB unit. I
have raced on my friends TSW and I like the Momo just as much, if not more.
I have had to do some little fixes to the Momo, such as tightening the gas
pedal and tightening the steering, but the small amount of time wasn't much
of an inconvenience. Based on service and long-term durability I would
recommend the TSW, but if you are looking to save money and want a unit that
is just as good as the TSW go with the Momo. You might have to replace a
few parts every two or three years, but IMHO, it is better to do that and
spend $90 bucks initially rather than spending $400 or more initially.
Shock
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> Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > acclaimed... > > What do people think of them? > Including the new USB models? > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > Redline Race Controls? > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"
Falkentyne wrote:
I wouldn't change my RedLine pedals for any other pedals I've tried,
which includes TSW's, I'm using them with a homemade wheel that's
basically a replica of the TSW's
That gives me the sturdiness and reliability of a TSW wheel combined
with the same reliability and excellent "feel" of the RedLine pedals
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
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> > Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > acclaimed... > > What do people think of them? > Including the new USB models? > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > Redline Race Controls? > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........The prob w. Logi is that they have no customer support. None. If it breaks
under warranty, they fix it. Otherwise, it's toast. They won't sell you
any parts because they have none. Zero. Zip. Nada.
That said, I have the best of both worlds: I have a MOMO FF wheel and TSW
pedals. Plus a spare MOMO FF wheel in case the first one dies.
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> I have had to do some little fixes to the Momo, such as tightening the gas
> pedal and tightening the steering, but the small amount of time wasn'tmuch
> of an inconvenience. Based on service and long-term durability I would
> recommend the TSW, but if you are looking to save money and want a unitthat
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> > "Falkentyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > acclaimed... > > > > What do people think of them? > > Including the new USB models? > > > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > Redline Race Controls? > > > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > I have friends who use the TSW units and they wouldn't use anything else. > In an effort to save money I bought the Logitech Momo Racing FFB unit. I > have raced on my friends TSW and I like the Momo just as much, if notQuoted text (7 lines)
> is just as good as the TSW go with the Momo. You might have to replace a > few parts every two or three years, but IMHO, it is better to do that and > spend $90 bucks initially rather than spending $400 or more initially. > > Shock > >You can buy replacement pot kits for Logitech wheels from Digikey.
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> The prob w. Logi is that they have no customer support. None. If itbreaks
else.
> > In an effort to save money I bought the Logitech Momo Racing FFB unit.I
> > have raced on my friends TSW and I like the Momo just as much, if not
> more.
> > I have had to do some little fixes to the Momo, such as tightening thegas
> > pedal and tightening the steering, but the small amount of time wasn't
> much
> > of an inconvenience. Based on service and long-term durability I would
> > recommend the TSW, but if you are looking to save money and want a unit
> that
> > is just as good as the TSW go with the Momo. You might have to replacea
> > few parts every two or three years, but IMHO, it is better to do thatand
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> under warranty, they fix it. Otherwise, it's toast. They won't sell you > any parts because they have none. Zero. Zip. Nada. > > That said, I have the best of both worlds: I have a MOMO FF wheel and TSW > pedals. Plus a spare MOMO FF wheel in case the first one dies. > > "Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Falkentyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > acclaimed... > > > > > > What do people think of them? > > > Including the new USB models? > > > > > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > I have friends who use the TSW units and they wouldn't use anythingQuoted text (7 lines)
> > spend $90 bucks initially rather than spending $400 or more initially. > > > > Shock > > > > > >TSW2 stock. Had it for about 7 years. Its kind of tired but all because of
my abuse. With normal DAILY use it would be fine and it really still is.
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > Falkentyne wrote: > > > > Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > acclaimed... > > > > What do people think of them? > > Including the new USB models? > > > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > Redline Race Controls? > > > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > I wouldn't change my RedLine pedals for any other pedals I've tried, > which includes TSW's, I'm using them with a homemade wheel that's > basically a replica of the TSW's > > That gives me the sturdiness and reliability of a TSW wheel combined > with the same reliability and excellent "feel" of the RedLine pedals > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--That's not the same thing as being able to buy parts from Logi...and there
are a lot of dedicated parts that can (and do) fail which can neither be
fixed nor replaced.
And I meant to say that Logi will replace broken units under warranty, not
fix them.
"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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you
> > any parts because they have none. Zero. Zip. Nada.
> >
> > That said, I have the best of both worlds: I have a MOMO FF wheel andTSW
would
> > > recommend the TSW, but if you are looking to save money and want aunit
> > that
> > > is just as good as the TSW go with the Momo. You might have toreplace
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> You can buy replacement pot kits for Logitech wheels from Digikey. > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qUaZb.77674$%[email hidden]... > > The prob w. Logi is that they have no customer support. None. If it > breaks > > under warranty, they fix it. Otherwise, it's toast. They won't sellQuoted text (35 lines)
> > pedals. Plus a spare MOMO FF wheel in case the first one dies. > > > > "Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Falkentyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > > acclaimed... > > > > > > > > What do people think of them? > > > > Including the new USB models? > > > > > > > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > > Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > > > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > > > I have friends who use the TSW units and they wouldn't use anything > else. > > > In an effort to save money I bought the Logitech Momo Racing FFB unit. > I > > > have raced on my friends TSW and I like the Momo just as much, if not > > more. > > > I have had to do some little fixes to the Momo, such as tightening the > gas > > > pedal and tightening the steering, but the small amount of time wasn't > > much > > > of an inconvenience. Based on service and long-term durability IQuoted text (12 lines)
> a > > > few parts every two or three years, but IMHO, it is better to do that > and > > > spend $90 bucks initially rather than spending $400 or more initially. > > > > > > Shock > > > > > > > > > > > >Didn't claim it was the same, just letting people know is all.
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unit.
> > I
> > > > have raced on my friends TSW and I like the Momo just as much, ifnot
> > > more.
> > > > I have had to do some little fixes to the Momo, such as tighteningthe
> > gas
> > > > pedal and tightening the steering, but the small amount of timewasn't
that
> > and
> > > > spend $90 bucks initially rather than spending $400 or moreinitially.
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> That's not the same thing as being able to buy parts from Logi...and there > are a lot of dedicated parts that can (and do) fail which can neither be > fixed nor replaced. > > And I meant to say that Logi will replace broken units under warranty, not > fix them. > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HWaZb.4656$[email hidden]... > > You can buy replacement pot kits for Logitech wheels from Digikey. > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:qUaZb.77674$%[email hidden]... > > > The prob w. Logi is that they have no customer support. None. If it > > breaks > > > under warranty, they fix it. Otherwise, it's toast. They won't sell > you > > > any parts because they have none. Zero. Zip. Nada. > > > > > > That said, I have the best of both worlds: I have a MOMO FF wheel and > TSW > > > pedals. Plus a spare MOMO FF wheel in case the first one dies. > > > > > > "Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > "Falkentyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > > > acclaimed... > > > > > > > > > > What do people think of them? > > > > > Including the new USB models? > > > > > > > > > > How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > > > Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > > > > > Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > > > > thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > > > in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > > > > > I have friends who use the TSW units and they wouldn't use anything > > else. > > > > In an effort to save money I bought the Logitech Momo Racing FFBQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > much > > > > of an inconvenience. Based on service and long-term durability I > would > > > > recommend the TSW, but if you are looking to save money and want a > unit > > > that > > > > is just as good as the TSW go with the Momo. You might have to > replace > > a > > > > few parts every two or three years, but IMHO, it is better to doQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > > > > > Shock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Quoted text (11 lines)
>Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly >acclaimed... > >What do people think of them? >Including the new USB models? > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? >Redline Race Controls? > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........It is alive...
http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/
So is my 7 year old TSW2!
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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>Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly >acclaimed... > >What do people think of them? >Including the new USB models? > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? >Redline Race Controls? > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"Mine isn't...I loved the pedals, but I would go through steering wheel pots
every couple of months. I finally dropped it a few years ago, still have it
though.
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> It is alive... > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/ > > So is my 7 year old TSW2! > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > >acclaimed... > > > >What do people think of them? > >Including the new USB models? > > > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > >Redline Race Controls? > > > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" >
Hey Stuart
What do you use now?
How does it compare to the TSW - (as good I presume or you wouldn't have
swithced)
Do you want to get rid of the old wheel?
Cheers
<MM>
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"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Mine isn't...I loved the pedals, but I would go through steering wheelpots
> every couple of months. I finally dropped it a few years ago, still haveit
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> though. > "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It is alive... > > > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/ > > > > So is my 7 year old TSW2! > > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > >acclaimed... > > > > > >What do people think of them? > > >Including the new USB models? > > > > > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > >Redline Race Controls? > > > > > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > >I've got a Logitech Momo Force with act labs pro pedals. I like the force
feedback I get now, and the fact that the steering wheel buttons actually
stay on. The pedals were definitely better in the TSW, but since it was a
gameport version, I'm not sure if it will work in windows now.
If I can't get the pedals to work, yea, I'll get rid of it, but its so old
that I doubt anyone would want it, and if they did, I can't guarantee I have
all the parts or that it even works.
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> > Hey Stuart > > What do you use now? > How does it compare to the TSW - (as good I presume or you wouldn't have > swithced) > > Do you want to get rid of the old wheel? > > Cheers > <MM> > ==--== > > > "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Lifcc.28037$[email hidden]... > > Mine isn't...I loved the pedals, but I would go through steering wheel > pots > > every couple of months. I finally dropped it a few years ago, still have > it > > though. > > "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > It is alive... > > > > > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/ > > > > > > So is my 7 year old TSW2! > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > >acclaimed... > > > > > > > >What do people think of them? > > > >Including the new USB models? > > > > > > > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > >Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > > >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > > > > > >"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I've got a Logitech Momo Force with act labs pro pedals. I like the force
> feedback I get now, and the fact that the steering wheel buttons actually
> stay on. The pedals were definitely better in the TSW, but since it was a
> gameport version, I'm not sure if it will work in windows now.
Oh yeah, it'll still work. I've got a 3 year old TSW2 gameport model and it
works fine on a brand new machine with Win XP even.
And buttons staying on? I donut get it. Mine's been fine for the length of
time I've owned it, and their lifetime warranty should've fixed you up with
anything other than pots.
Force feedback is another issue, won't get it with a Thomas, no doubt.
That's the reason I went with Thomas, as FF, in it's current application,
sucks IMO.
> If I can't get the pedals to work, yea, I'll get rid of it, but its so old
> that I doubt anyone would want it, and if they did, I can't guarantee Ihave
have
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> all the parts or that it even works. > "<MM>" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5Yhcc.30081$Pk3.18593@pd7tw1no... > > > > Hey Stuart > > > > What do you use now? > > How does it compare to the TSW - (as good I presume or you wouldn't have > > swithced) > > > > Do you want to get rid of the old wheel? > > > > Cheers > > <MM> > > ==--== > > > > > > "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Lifcc.28037$[email hidden]... > > > Mine isn't...I loved the pedals, but I would go through steering wheel > > pots > > > every couple of months. I finally dropped it a few years ago, stillQuoted text (36 lines)
> > it > > > though. > > > "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > It is alive... > > > > > > > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/ > > > > > > > > So is my 7 year old TSW2! > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > > >acclaimed... > > > > > > > > > >What do people think of them? > > > > >Including the new USB models? > > > > > > > > > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > > >Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > > > > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > > > >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > > >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I've got the TSW2 Formula and it has two buttons on both sides of the wheel
for whatever you need to do. The stacks they were on would not stay anywhere
close to the original location. I was going through pots so quickly with it
that it wasn't worth my effort to have them fix the wheel since I was just
going to stop using it anyways.
"SimRacer" <nospam@[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I've got a Logitech Momo Force with act labs pro pedals. I like theforce
> > feedback I get now, and the fact that the steering wheel buttonsactually
> > stay on. The pedals were definitely better in the TSW, but since it wasa
> > gameport version, I'm not sure if it will work in windows now.
>
> Oh yeah, it'll still work. I've got a 3 year old TSW2 gameport model andit
> works fine on a brand new machine with Win XP even.
>
> And buttons staying on? I donut get it. Mine's been fine for the length of
> time I've owned it, and their lifetime warranty should've fixed you upwith
old
have
wheel
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> anything other than pots. > > Force feedback is another issue, won't get it with a Thomas, no doubt. > That's the reason I went with Thomas, as FF, in it's current application, > sucks IMO. > > > If I can't get the pedals to work, yea, I'll get rid of it, but its soQuoted text (10 lines)
> > that I doubt anyone would want it, and if they did, I can't guarantee I > have > > all the parts or that it even works. > > "<MM>" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5Yhcc.30081$Pk3.18593@pd7tw1no... > > > > > > Hey Stuart > > > > > > What do you use now? > > > How does it compare to the TSW - (as good I presume or you wouldn'tQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > swithced) > > > > > > Do you want to get rid of the old wheel? > > > > > > Cheers > > > <MM> > > > ==--== > > > > > > > > > "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Lifcc.28037$[email hidden]... > > > > Mine isn't...I loved the pedals, but I would go through steeringQuoted text (26 lines)
> > > pots > > > > every couple of months. I finally dropped it a few years ago, still > have > > > it > > > > though. > > > > "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > It is alive... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/ > > > > > > > > > > So is my 7 year old TSW2! > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > > > >acclaimed... > > > > > > > > > > > >What do people think of them? > > > > > >Including the new USB models? > > > > > > > > > > > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > > > >Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > > > > > > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go aroundQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > > > >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > > > >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I've got the TSW2 Formula and it has two buttons on both sides of the wheel
> for whatever you need to do. The stacks they were on would not stay anywhere
> close to the original location. I was going through pots so quickly with it
> that it wasn't worth my effort to have them fix the wheel since I was just
> going to stop using it anyways.
>May I ask what you were doing to wear your pots out so quickly?
My TSW Cup is 2 years old and the original spec pots are still working fine.
I use it on average, about 8hrs a week.
I don't know, that's why I dropped it. I just used it like I've used every
other wheel and it kept on crapping out on me.
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> "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I've got the TSW2 Formula and it has two buttons on both sides of thewheel
> > for whatever you need to do. The stacks they were on would not stayanywhere
> > close to the original location. I was going through pots so quickly withit
> > that it wasn't worth my effort to have them fix the wheel since I wasjust
> > going to stop using it anyways.
> >
> May I ask what you were doing to wear your pots out so quickly?
> My TSW Cup is 2 years old and the original spec pots are still workingfine.
> I use it on average, about 8hrs a week.
>
>
"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I don't know, that's why I dropped it. I just used it like I've used every
> other wheel and it kept on crapping out on me.
Very interesting. Like I said, I've had mine for 3 years and the pots are
still going strong. Of course by this point I've forgotten which wheel it is
that you have and I know some of theirs come with regular pots and TSW2s
similar to mine came with more durable SPEC pots.
To each their own I guess, good luck with your current setup. I'd just like
to throw out there to the general public that Suart's experience with TSW is
not a common one. I don't work for Dave, nothing of the sort, but myself and
some racing friends have had TSWs for years now, and abuse them regularly
(LOL), and have had no such failures. Not one single pot in 4 TSW models
since 1999 has gone bad (me and 3 of my friends own one each, d'oh). Mine
personally, still drives like the day I unpacked it in '01. Before that, I
had a really old Thrustmaster T2 that I just got tired of replacing the
bungee, steering pot and pedal springs in...started out in NASCAR Racing 1
with that one...
Hi Stuart
The reason that I am asking is 'cause I have a TSW that has given me
excellent use for some 6 years now. I am interested to take your 'pieces'
only as spare parts for my unit (it is getting older now:)
So... let me know if you decide that you are not going to want or need it
any longer and we can chat more about it.
Cheers
<MM>
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"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I've got a Logitech Momo Force with act labs pro pedals. I like the force > feedback I get now, and the fact that the steering wheel buttons actually > stay on. The pedals were definitely better in the TSW, but since it was a > gameport version, I'm not sure if it will work in windows now. > > If I can't get the pedals to work, yea, I'll get rid of it, but its so old > that I doubt anyone would want it, and if they did, I can't guarantee IQuoted text (22 lines)
> all the parts or that it even works. > "<MM>" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5Yhcc.30081$Pk3.18593@pd7tw1no... > > > > Hey Stuart > > > > What do you use now? > > How does it compare to the TSW - (as good I presume or you wouldn't have > > swithced) > > > > Do you want to get rid of the old wheel? > > > > Cheers > > <MM> > > ==--== > > > > > > "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Lifcc.28037$[email hidden]... > > > Mine isn't...I loved the pedals, but I would go through steering wheel > > pots > > > every couple of months. I finally dropped it a few years ago, stillQuoted text (36 lines)
> > it > > > though. > > > "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > It is alive... > > > > > > > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/ > > > > > > > > So is my 7 year old TSW2! > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:30 GMT, Falkentyne <[email hidden]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >Haven't seen much mention of them, though they were highly > > > > >acclaimed... > > > > > > > > > >What do people think of them? > > > > >Including the new USB models? > > > > > > > > > >How do they compare to the Hypersim units? The old ECCI units? > > > > >Redline Race Controls? > > > > > > > > > >Need thorough feedback please. I'm not going to go around tossing > > > > >thousands on a unit without some good feedback........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament > > > > > it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", > > > > >in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In article <Zrpcc.13133$[email hidden]>, "gordo"
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>May I ask what you were doing to wear your pots out so quickly?
>My TSW Cup is 2 years old and the original spec pots are still working fine.
>I use it on average, about 8hrs a week.
I seem to have replaced quite a few pots in my time owning the wheel, but I
think I have the cheaper pots. If you get the higher-quality version, doesn't
that screw up the way sims read it? Seems that I remember hearing about a
problem with using the 100K pots...
Eldred
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"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
I believe that was an issue on some Win XP machines.
I am using Win98SE with my spec pots.
My wheel does exhibit a slight jitter off center in calibration, but it doesn't seem to adversly affect
the operation of the wheel in the game.
I plan to ship my wheel to TSW soon to have the USB mod done to it.
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> In article <Zrpcc.13133$[email hidden]>, "gordo" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >May I ask what you were doing to wear your pots out so quickly? > >My TSW Cup is 2 years old and the original spec pots are still working fine. > >I use it on average, about 8hrs a week. > > I seem to have replaced quite a few pots in my time owning the wheel, but I > think I have the cheaper pots. If you get the higher-quality version, doesn't > that screw up the way sims read it? Seems that I remember hearing about a > problem with using the 100K pots... >"gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:2H3dc.621$l75.503
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> I plan to ship my wheel to TSW soon to have the USB mod done to it.
From what I read on their site...they have a big backlog on USB
conversions.
dh
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Soooo, how hard is doing the mod yourself? Have you done the USB mod, Dave?
I wonder if there is a backlog of the kits?
Robin
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> "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:2H3dc.621$l75.503 > @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: > >> I plan to ship my wheel to TSW soon to have the USB mod done to it. > > From what I read on their site...they have a big backlog on USB > conversions. > > dh"
> Soooo, how hard is doing the mod yourself? Have you done the USB mod,
> Dave? I wonder if there is a backlog of the kits?
> Robin
>
>
>
No I haven't. I don't even have a TSW. I'd LIKE to get a unit, and
this change to USB is even more enticing. But the family credit card seems
pretty tired these days.
I don't recall if they had kits...go dig thru the site, you might find
some info.
dave henrie
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been to the site and they do sell kits but they don't specify
availability of the kits... just that they are backlogged on the mod jobs. I
checked the link which is supposed to give info on how to install the kit
once you get it but instead of a set of online instructions it's just a page
of a lot of pictures showing someone doing the mod... I like that there's
pictures but I'd like it more if the actual instructions were online. Also,
they say on the site that the USB mod is a better solution than the USB to
gameport converter that they offer (that's all they had for a USB solution
for a while) but they don't say why it's better. I'm leaning toward getting
the USB to gameport converter 'cause I'm just in the middle of an upgrade
cycle and the Abit NF7-S mobo I've ordered doesn't have a game port. I know
all about the family credit card being maxed and that's what leads me to
this... unless someone can give me a compelling reason why the converter
($25.00) is that much inferior to the USB mod kit ($100.00) I think I'll be
going with the converter.
Robin
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> " >> Soooo, how hard is doing the mod yourself? Have you done the USB mod, >> Dave? I wonder if there is a backlog of the kits? >> Robin >> >> >> > > No I haven't. I don't even have a TSW. I'd LIKE to get a unit, and > this change to USB is even more enticing. But the family credit card > seems > pretty tired these days. > > I don't recall if they had kits...go dig thru the site, you might find > some info. > dave henrie"gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]...
> > In article <Zrpcc.13133$[email hidden]>,"gordo"
> > <[email hidden]> writes:
> >
> > >May I ask what you were doing to wear your pots out so quickly?
> > >My TSW Cup is 2 years old and the original spec pots are still workingfine.
> > >I use it on average, about 8hrs a week.
> >
> > I seem to have replaced quite a few pots in my time owning the wheel,but I
> > think I have the cheaper pots. If you get the higher-quality version,doesn't
> > that screw up the way sims read it? Seems that I remember hearing abouta
> > problem with using the 100K pots...
> >
> I believe that was an issue on some Win XP machines.
> I am using Win98SE with my spec pots.
> My wheel does exhibit a slight jitter off center in calibration, but itdoesn't seem to adversly affect
> the operation of the wheel in the game.
> I plan to ship my wheel to TSW soon to have the USB mod done to it.
>
>
I'm still using the gameport model on my Win XP machine and it seems to work
fine. As mentioned by someone else, I see some twitches in the calibration,
but have never felt anyhting while actually running. I am going to see about
getting the USB mod kit if it is still available, and doing it myself (just
for peace of mind). IIRC, they have some directions on their website on how
to upgrade it yourself with one of their kits and it didn't look that tough
really. I ain't skeered of taking stuff apart. LOL! I just hope I don't have
too many parts leftover when I'm done...I just have to be sure that I can
mod mine as directed since it is an older TSW2 Cup and back when I got mine,
split axis was an option and I got it. Seems to me the last time I looked
into it, the TSW2 Cups were not split axis and it makes me wonder about
upgrading.
I have a TSW2 that I use with their (Rockwell) USB converter, and it works perfectly since I changed motherboards. My last MB, a AV7333 used a VIA chipset that would loose touch with the USB port every so often. None of the fixes or patches worked. Finally I just upgraded my MB to a A7N8X-E with a Nvidia chipset, and I've never has a problem since. Thomas does recommend that you change all three pots to the 250u ones, which I did.
Joel
"Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Cfdc.15014$Sh4.3113@edtnps84...
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been to the site and they do sell kits but they don't specify
availability of the kits... just that they are backlogged on the mod jobs. I
checked the link which is supposed to give info on how to install the kit
once you get it but instead of a set of online instructions it's just a page
of a lot of pictures showing someone doing the mod... I like that there's
pictures but I'd like it more if the actual instructions were online. Also,
they say on the site that the USB mod is a better solution than the USB to
gameport converter that they offer (that's all they had for a USB solution
for a while) but they don't say why it's better. I'm leaning toward getting
the USB to gameport converter 'cause I'm just in the middle of an upgrade
cycle and the Abit NF7-S mobo I've ordered doesn't have a game port. I know
all about the family credit card being maxed and that's what leads me to
this... unless someone can give me a compelling reason why the converter
($25.00) is that much inferior to the USB mod kit ($100.00) I think I'll be
going with the converter.
Robin
