Ubisoft F1rs or Monaco GP ?

Is it worth buying the new version of F1RS (the Monaco one) or is the original good enough especially now it's cheaper ? Does the new version need a more powerful PC than the original ? And finally, do they both work with Cyrix P166+ processors (I gather GPL won't) ? Thanks John

F1RS is my favorite game this year. I would recommend to buy it for you for cheap price. The game came out buggy and was improved with 10 patches. Two months after the last patch came F1RS2. I played the demo and read reviews in german magazines. Frankly spoken, its the same game for full price again. So buy the first one. I play it with a P200 + Voodoo 1 card. It is playable with some details off. Without the 3DFX-card it would be unplayable. Jochen

I own both ,DO NOT THROW YOUR MONEY AWAY ON "F1-RS". Kyle George Hahn "We will never be hidden and left to die ever again.... Get used to it!"

Completely disagree! F1RS was my fave for a long time, but MGPRS2 is WAY better. You only appreciate the differences once you've been playing for some time. Better graphics, AI, handling, tracks, etc. Iain

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>> Is it worth buying the new version of F1RS (the Monaco >> one) or is the original good enough especially now it's >> cheaper ? Does the new version need a more powerful PC >> than the original ? And finally, do they both work with >> Cyrix P166+ processors (I gather GPL won't) ? >F1RS is my favorite game this year. I would recommend to buy it for you for >cheap price. >The game came out buggy and was improved with 10 patches. Two months after >the last >patch came F1RS2. I played the demo and read reviews in german magazines. >Frankly spoken, >its the same game for full price again. So buy the first one. >I play it with a P200 + Voodoo 1 card. It is playable with some details >off. Without the 3DFX-card >it would be unplayable. >Jochen

Likewise. If you're just messing around then stick to F1RS or buy the Psygnosis product. Otherwise MGPRS is a well worthwhile improvement. Whether it should have been an upgrade or not is a different question which has clouded some minds.

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>Completely disagree! F1RS was my fave for a long time, but MGPRS2 is WAY >better. You only appreciate the differences once you've been playing for >some time. Better graphics, AI, handling, tracks, etc. >Iain >>> Is it worth buying the new version of F1RS (the Monaco >>> one) or is the original good enough especially now it's >>> cheaper ? Does the new version need a more powerful PC >>> than the original ? And finally, do they both work with >>> Cyrix P166+ processors (I gather GPL won't) ? >>F1RS is my favorite game this year. I would recommend to buy it for you

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>>cheap price. >>The game came out buggy and was improved with 10 patches. Two months after >>the last >>patch came F1RS2. I played the demo and read reviews in german magazines. >>Frankly spoken, >>its the same game for full price again. So buy the first one. >>I play it with a P200 + Voodoo 1 card. It is playable with some details >>off. Without the 3DFX-card >>it would be unplayable. >>Jochen

If You use a joystick (like me) F1RS is very difficult to drive (very "digital" like with keyboard). MGPRS (I've played the demo) is much smoother to steer. I don't think so. On the contrary: MGPRS is quicker (menus, loading). I don't know. I only know, that both work very fine on my K6-2-300 :-) So buy the "update" - it's worth the money. Axel -------------------------------------------------------------- - Axel Schlueter - Fax: (02361) 374058 -

On no account buy the Psygnosis product it's worthless (even the graphics, though of reasonable quality, are completely worthless - the curb is almost as high as the cars) - I won't go into the countless other ways that this product stinks. F1RS on the other hand is a very good sim but MGP is better still, something that is not immediately apparent until you've done a few races. Sadly they haven't given us very few additional enhancements - in particular net play is still limited to dial-up ipx connections. Paul

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> Completely disagree! F1RS was my fave for a long time, but MGPRS2 is WAY > better. You only appreciate the differences once you've been playing for > some time. Better graphics, AI, handling, tracks, etc. > Iain > >> Is it worth buying the new version of F1RS (the Monaco > >> one) or is the original good enough especially now it's > >> cheaper ? Does the new version need a more powerful PC > >> than the original ? And finally, do they both work with > >> Cyrix P166+ processors (I gather GPL won't) ? > >F1RS is my favorite game this year. I would recommend to buy it for you for > >cheap price. > >The game came out buggy and was improved with 10 patches. Two months after > >the last > >patch came F1RS2. I played the demo and read reviews in german magazines. > >Frankly spoken, > >its the same game for full price again. So buy the first one. > >I play it with a P200 + Voodoo 1 card. It is playable with some details > >off. Without the 3DFX-card > >it would be unplayable. > >Jochen

It was a joke (yawn). >On no account buy the Psygnosis product it's worthless (even the graphics, >though of reasonable quality, are completely worthless - the curb is almost as >high as the cars) - I won't go into the countless other ways that this product >stinks. F1RS on the other hand is a very good sim but MGP is better still, >something that is not immediately apparent until you've done a few races. Sadly >they haven't given us very few additional enhancements - in particular net play

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>is still limited to dial-up ipx connections. >Paul >> Completely disagree! F1RS was my fave for a long time, but MGPRS2 is WAY >> better. You only appreciate the differences once you've been playing for >> some time. Better graphics, AI, handling, tracks, etc. >> Iain >> >> Is it worth buying the new version of F1RS (the Monaco >> >> one) or is the original good enough especially now it's >> >> cheaper ? Does the new version need a more powerful PC >> >> than the original ? And finally, do they both work with >> >> Cyrix P166+ processors (I gather GPL won't) ? >> >F1RS is my favorite game this year. I would recommend to buy it for you

for >> >cheap price. >> >The game came out buggy and was improved with 10 patches. Two months after >> >the last >> >patch came F1RS2. I played the demo and read reviews in german magazines.

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>> >Frankly spoken, >> >its the same game for full price again. So buy the first one. >> >I play it with a P200 + Voodoo 1 card. It is playable with some details >> >off. Without the 3DFX-card >> >it would be unplayable. >> >Jochen

> It was a joke (yawn). Then add a smiley to your "jokes"! We can't see you grin, can we?? l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

> But MGPRS doesn't have the real teams... Well, my version has! Just go to <www.f1racingsim.com/f1rs2> and download all you want... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Does anyone know how it performs on an AMD k62-300 with an 8MB AGP ATI XpertPlay graphics card. I have had a lot of problems with other racing games due to the amount of floating point maths they use.

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> It was a joke (yawn). > >On no account buy the Psygnosis product it's worthless (even the graphics, > >though of reasonable quality, are completely worthless - the curb is almost > as > >high as the cars) - I won't go into the countless other ways that this > product > >stinks. F1RS on the other hand is a very good sim but MGP is better still, > >something that is not immediately apparent until you've done a few races. > Sadly > >they haven't given us very few additional enhancements - in particular net > play > >is still limited to dial-up ipx connections. > >Paul > >> Completely disagree! F1RS was my fave for a long time, but MGPRS2 is WAY > >> better. You only appreciate the differences once you've been playing for > >> some time. Better graphics, AI, handling, tracks, etc. > >> Iain > >> >> Is it worth buying the new version of F1RS (the Monaco > >> >> one) or is the original good enough especially now it's > >> >> cheaper ? Does the new version need a more powerful PC > >> >> than the original ? And finally, do they both work with > >> >> Cyrix P166+ processors (I gather GPL won't) ? > >> >F1RS is my favorite game this year. I would recommend to buy it for you > for > >> >cheap price. > >> >The game came out buggy and was improved with 10 patches. Two months > after > >> >the last > >> >patch came F1RS2. I played the demo and read reviews in german > magazines. > >> >Frankly spoken, > >> >its the same game for full price again. So buy the first one. > >> >I play it with a P200 + Voodoo 1 card. It is playable with some details > >> >off. Without the 3DFX-card > >> >it would be unplayable. > >> >Jochen

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I expect you also need canned laughter with your TV shows.

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>> It was a joke (yawn). >Then add a smiley to your "jokes"! We can't see you grin, can we?? >l8er >ronny >-- >How to get rid of censorship in German game releases ><http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

> I expect you also need canned laughter with your TV shows. Oh, please! You don't have much experience on Usenet, have you? 99% of all flame wars started because written English is very context sensitive. Why do you think, some chap invented those little ***s...? --> ;^) l8er ronny > >> It was a joke (yawn). > >Then add a smiley to your "jokes"! We can't see you grin, can we?? -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Oh my, if you think THAT is a reason not to buy it you don't eve CARE about what MGPRS2 IS! That's really the dumbest reason given why not to buy MGPRS-2. BTW: I can recommend MGPRS2 to everyone!