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NASCAR Racing 1999 vs GPL

24 posts by 10 people · 13 Oct 1998 - 14 Oct 1998

NASCAR Racing 1999 versus GPL newsgroup traffic

A poster hoped NASCAR Racing 1999 would draw as much discussion as GPL, and someone suggested splitting the group into stock car and open-wheel sims. Others said NR99 was only a minor update to NASCAR 2, recommended filters, and noted many NASCAR fans posted on TEN's own newsgroup. The thread descended into mock partisan banter and some name-calling.

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Metro6 13 Oct 1998#427232
I hope that when NR99 comes out this month, and NASCAR 2000/N3 comes out whenever, we get as many posts here about those games as there have been abour GPL in the last week. If there are as many posts about the N2 games coming out as there have been with GPL, I will be a wizard on the NASCAR games. Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the Sorry, just a bit cranky today...
Todd 13 Oct 1998#427233
Is it possible to maybe split up the newsgroups............One for stock car sims and one for open wheel sims? Just an idea (that has probably been offered up a few other times I'm guessing) Todd
Quoted text (11 lines)>I hope that when NR99 comes out this month, and NASCAR 2000/N3 comes out >whenever, we get as many posts here about those games as there have been abour >GPL in the last week. >If there are as many posts about the N2 games coming out as there have been >with GPL, I will be a wizard on the NASCAR games. >Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the >Sorry, just a bit cranky today...
For NR99, I don't think people will get that stirred up since it's just N2 with a few changes. Sure, there will be a good number of posts, but I'm willing to bet that there will be as many (if not more) complaints about what NR99 is NOT, as there are praising the little changes that were made (CTS fans notwithstanding). >Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is NOT fun (to watch or in which to participate), but I got GPL to see if my system would be able to handle N2000. Not only will my system handle N2000, but I've accepted GPL as just plain FUN to drive. N2 has been reduced to the status of being a nice app for it's day, but GPL has raised the bar for all racing sim manufacturers (even for Papyrus), and I won't buy another sim that isn't at least as good as GPL. I would highly recommend to anyone that has not bought GPL to do so, especially if they plan on getting N2000 when it's released. You'll be that much further ahead if you do because you'll be used to the physics model by then, and you'll be able to assess your hardware upgrade requirements in time. A P2/300 or better, combined with a Voodoo2 card (unless they include support for D3D in N2000) is recommended for high frame rates with a lot of detail. Sierra was way off the mark with their minimum system requiremenmts as printed on the GPL box. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
So who wants to wade thru the "what a screwed up idea" posts that usually accompany such an attempt? It takes 2 to 4 months to get a new newsgroup approved. By the time you succeed, GPL will be nothing but a memory to most of the folks here. online.net says...
Quoted text (12 lines)>Is it possible to maybe split up the newsgroups............One for >stock car sims and one for open wheel sims? >Just an idea (that has probably been offered up a few other times I'm >guessing) >>snip >>Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the
-- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
Ron R. II 13 Oct 1998#427236
Just takes a watch filter set to "subject: Nascar*" and a kill filter set to "subject: *" With higher priority on watch filter than kill filter. And trust me, wait'll you see the flood that will be here when NCR1999 and NCR2000 come out. I remember when NCR2 came out and we about drove the Indy people crazy <G>. Upwards of 200 messages a day just on NCR2. BTW: Last I heard 1999 has been pushed to mid november and 2000 pushed to april :( Now I know I'll need a new system for NCR2000, mine will be 2 years old by then <sigh> Ron
Quoted text (11 lines)>I hope that when NR99 comes out this month, and NASCAR 2000/N3 comes out >whenever, we get as many posts here about those games as there have been abour >GPL in the last week. >If there are as many posts about the N2 games coming out as there have been >with GPL, I will be a wizard on the NASCAR games. >Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the >Sorry, just a bit cranky today...
-- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Medallion Motorsports NASS'98 BGN Series #97 Pontiac http://www.frelance.com/prr NASS'98 for N1 Points Statistician for Rookie & Team points Access from: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/results/results.html NASS'98 for N1 Main site: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/
I for one am totally pleased to see NASCAR relegated to the "minority" status in the newsgroup :). GO GPL! Bring on CART! Randy
Quoted text (22 lines)>Is it possible to maybe split up the newsgroups............One for >stock car sims and one for open wheel sims? >Just an idea (that has probably been offered up a few other times I'm >guessing) >Todd >>I hope that when NR99 comes out this month, and NASCAR 2000/N3 comes out >>whenever, we get as many posts here about those games as there have been abour >>GPL in the last week. >>If there are as many posts about the N2 games coming out as there have been >>with GPL, I will be a wizard on the NASCAR games. >>Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the >>Sorry, just a bit cranky today...
Randy Magruder http://members.home.com/rmagruder
Metro6 13 Oct 1998#427239
.For NR99, I don't think people will get that stirred up since it's just .N2 with a few changes. Sure, there will be a good number of posts, but .I'm willing to bet that there will be as many (if not more) complaints .about what NR99 is NOT, as there are praising the little changes that .were made (CTS fans notwithstanding). I'll be willing to bet that there will not be 1/10 th of the posts total about NR99 as there have been about GPL just since it has been released. Now when N2000/N3 comes out...that might be a different story. ========================== ==========================
>>Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is NOT fun (to >>watch or in which to participate) >and NASCAR is?!?!?!?!?! Please! Let's not start THAT old debate! Martin Nigel Mansel RIP!
PHendrix27 13 Oct 1998#427241
GEEZ, this is starting to sound like a which is better, PSX or N64 type post. Come on, grow up for gods sake
says... >>>Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is >>>NOT fun (to watch or in which to participate) >>and NASCAR is?!?!?!?!?! >Please! Let's not start THAT old debate! He obviously didn't bother to read my entire post... -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
> I'll be willing to bet that there will not be 1/10 th of the posts total about > NR99 as there have been about GPL just since it has been released. > Now when N2000/N3 comes out...that might be a different story. The majority of the bigger N2 and N99 fans participate in TEN's newsgroup vs. RAS (In regards to N2 - N99 - N2000 issues). Bill / Amish on TEN
I didn't start it...what happened to Nige? Randy
Quoted text (9 lines)>>>Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is NOT fun (to >>>watch or in which to participate) >>and NASCAR is?!?!?!?!?! > Please! Let's not start THAT old debate! >Martin >Nigel Mansel RIP!
Randy Magruder http://members.home.com/rmagruder
Yes, I did...but you used the sentence in the present tense, not the past tense, leading me to believe you still maintain this belief.
Quoted text (15 lines)>says... >>>>Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is >>>>NOT fun (to watch or in which to participate) >>>and NASCAR is?!?!?!?!?! >>Please! Let's not start THAT old debate! >He obviously didn't bother to read my entire post...
Randy Magruder http://members.home.com/rmagruder
>So who wants to wade thru the "what a screwed up idea" posts that usually >accompany such an attempt? It takes 2 to 4 months to get a new newsgroup >approved. By the time you succeed, GPL will be nothing but a memory to >most of the folks here. Right CLOWN!!!
GPL ROCKZ!!! NASCAR2 SUXXXX!!! CPR RULEZ!!! Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!
That wasn't directed towards anyone specifically. I'm trying to be non-partisan, dammit! "Nigel Mansell RIP!" is a line I've used under my name in r.a.s.f1 posts dating back to the summer of 95. Rest well knowing that the Great Mustachioed One is still alive and well, if not winning. Martin Nigel Mansell RIP! (figuratively speaking)
If you *had* read the entire post, you would have used what little grey matter you have and taken the whole thing in context. Stop bing a putz.
Quoted text (23 lines)>Yes, I did...but you used the sentence in the present tense, not the >past tense, leading me to believe you still maintain this belief. >>says... >>>>>Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is >>>>>NOT fun (to watch or in which to participate) >>>>and NASCAR is?!?!?!?!?! >>>Please! Let's not start THAT old debate! >>He obviously didn't bother to read my entire post...
-- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
>I hope that when NR99 comes out this month, and NASCAR 2000/N3 comes out >whenever, we get as many posts here about those games as there have been abour >GPL in the last week. You bet there will be. >Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the Not me. :) But I understand your position: it's tiresome to have to read a lot of stuff you're not interested in just to find the few posts you want. There really is just one feasible way: get a newsreader that allows killfiling (or if your current newsreader already allows it, find out how to use it.) Then, make a killfile for: gpl | grand prix legends | gp legends | gplegends | legends This should cover 95% of the GPL related material. I use this filter to *retrieve* just this stuff, but anyway. :) Or you could go the other way and create a "watch" filter for exactly the topics you want to read about: N2, N3, NASCAR, NASCAR2, etc. Allow for misspellings and the usual abbrevs for maximum performance. "Forte Agent" and "Gravity" are two popular newsreaders that allow this. Live and let live. :) Once you can automatically skip the stuff that bores you, it will be much less annoying. BTW, the idea of creating a seperate newsgroup will be voiced, as always. It is *not* a good idea for several reasons. Believe me. :) -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.
Ron R. II 14 Oct 1998#427594
Quoted text (9 lines)>>>Not really. I'm firmly convinced that open-wheel racing is NOT fun (to >>>watch or in which to participate) >>and NASCAR is?!?!?!?!?! > Please! Let's not start THAT old debate! >Martin >Nigel Mansel RIP!
*Start* that old debate??!! Uh, looking at your earlier post *you* seem to have started it nicely <G>. Ron (At least in stock cars you can *see* the fire) -- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Medallion Motorsports NASS'98 BGN Series #97 Pontiac http://www.frelance.com/prr NASS'98 for N1 Points Statistician for Rookie & Team points Access from: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/results/results.html NASS'98 for N1 Main site: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/
Ron R. II 14 Oct 1998#427595
Quoted text (12 lines)>>I didn't start it...what happened to Nige? > That wasn't directed towards anyone specifically. I'm trying >to be non-partisan, dammit! > "Nigel Mansell RIP!" is a line I've used under my name in >r.a.s.f1 posts dating back to the summer of 95. Rest well knowing >that the Great Mustachioed One is still alive and well, if not >winning. >Martin >Nigel Mansell RIP! (figuratively speaking)
Again I am reminded of the following which was your first post on the subject: GPL ROCKZ!!! NASCAR2 SUXXXX!!! CPR RULEZ!!! Martin Nigel Mansell RIP! Non partisan eh? <G>. About as non- partisan as congress it appears <G>. Ron -- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Medallion Motorsports NASS'98 BGN Series #97 Pontiac http://www.frelance.com/prr NASS'98 for N1 Points Statistician for Rookie & Team points Access from: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/results/results.html NASS'98 for N1 Main site: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/
Ron R. II 14 Oct 1998#427596
Quoted text (9 lines)>> I'll be willing to bet that there will not be 1/10 th of the posts total about >> NR99 as there have been about GPL just since it has been released. >> Now when N2000/N3 comes out...that might be a different story. >The majority of the bigger N2 and N99 fans participate in TEN's >newsgroup vs. RAS (In regards to N2 - N99 - N2000 issues). >Bill / Amish on TEN
Except of course those of us who either/and/or can't afford to/have time to, run on ten <G>. Ron -- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Medallion Motorsports NASS'98 BGN Series #97 Pontiac http://www.frelance.com/prr NASS'98 for N1 Points Statistician for Rookie & Team points Access from: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/results/results.html NASS'98 for N1 Main site: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/
Ron R. II 14 Oct 1998#427597
See what you started <G>. Ron
Quoted text (11 lines)>I hope that when NR99 comes out this month, and NASCAR 2000/N3 comes out >whenever, we get as many posts here about those games as there have been abour >GPL in the last week. >If there are as many posts about the N2 games coming out as there have been >with GPL, I will be a wizard on the NASCAR games. >Does anybody else get tired of wading through the GPL posts to find the >Sorry, just a bit cranky today...
-- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Medallion Motorsports NASS'98 BGN Series #97 Pontiac http://www.frelance.com/prr NASS'98 for N1 Points Statistician for Rookie & Team points Access from: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/results/results.html NASS'98 for N1 Main site: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/
Ron R. II 14 Oct 1998#427598
Ok, can't resist this one <G>. <snip> Nascar 1, 2 Rule!! 1999, 2000 will Rock!!! No opinion on the others cause if it aint got fenders it must be a plane or a boat <G>. Rest in Pieces???? <G>. Sorry, bad joke I know!! Just really tired tonight, mainly of dealing with this rules that sucks 8 yr old having a tiz BS!!! Ron -- Ron Riekens II ICQ# 1780898 Co-Owner/Driver: Pacific Rim Racing/Medallion Motorsports NASS'98 BGN Series #97 Pontiac http://www.frelance.com/prr NASS'98 for N1 Points Statistician for Rookie & Team points Access from: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/results/results.html NASS'98 for N1 Main site: http://www.maui.net/~frelance//n1/

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