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GP2 Off the Shelf

9 posts by 7 people · 10 Oct 1998 - 16 Oct 1998

Pete Haw 10 Oct 1998#426270
I now have Microprose' Grand Prix 2 back on the hard-drive... last time it was there was in July of '96. The graphics back then were much to much for my P133. But now, thanks to the ol' Intel Celeron 300a running at 450 Mhz, I can now play GP2 in full speed 25 fps (max it'll let you I think) in SVGA and it's a blast! It may not be the "eye candy" that todays games are, but it has such a great feel of really "sticking" to the road courses, that I've yet to see in any other driving sim. Most other ones you just slide much to easily (I haven't driven these types of cars obviously, but it just feels really right in GP2 from how I'd imagine it to be). Since all my current $ went into this upgrade to the 450 computer, I have to wait a little while to by GPL, which I'm sure will be awesome based on on the usenet posts. But for now, GP2 is a blast, once again. (much better than on my old 133). If your wondering about this and have a high end system now too, load up GP2! It's a heck of a lot of fun now. Pete
DPHI 10 Oct 1998#426271
Agreed! I loaded up GP2 last night on my new PII 400 system because of all the problems I've had with the sound in F1RS and my Ensoniq soundcard. The game rocks on this system but after F1RS and GPL the graphics just don't cut it for me. -don "To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caracciola
Pete Haw 10 Oct 1998#426272
Yeah, the graphics are very dated, but it still has a great feel to it. Pete >> I now have Microprose' Grand Prix 2 back on the hard-drive... last time >>it was there was in July of '96. The graphics back then were much to much >>for my P133. But now, thanks to the ol' Intel Celeron 300a running at 450 >>Mhz, I can now play GP2 in full speed 25 fps (max it'll let you I think) in >>SVGA and it's a blast! It may not be the "eye candy" that todays games are, >>but it has such a great feel of really "sticking" to the road courses, that >>I've yet to see in any other driving sim. Most other ones you just slide >>much to easily (I haven't driven these types of cars obviously, but it just >>feels really right in GP2 from how I'd imagine it to be). Since all my >>current $ went into this upgrade to the 450 computer, I have to wait a >>little while to by GPL, which I'm sure will be awesome based on on the >>usenet posts. But for now, GP2 is a blast, once again. (much better than >>on my old 133). If your wondering about this and have a high end system now >>too, load up GP2! It's a heck of a lot of fun now. >>Pete >Agreed! I loaded up GP2 last night on my new PII 400 system because of all the >problems I've had with the sound in F1RS and my Ensoniq soundcard. The game >rocks on this system but after F1RS and GPL the graphics just don't cut it for >me. >-don >"To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caracciola
Ken Beard 10 Oct 1998#426273
Quoted text (10 lines)>Yeah, the graphics are very dated, but it still has a great feel to it. >Pete >>Agreed! I loaded up GP2 last night on my new PII 400 system because of all >the >>problems I've had with the sound in F1RS and my Ensoniq soundcard. The
game >>rocks on this system but after F1RS and GPL the graphics just don't cut it >for >>me. I'd probably run it on my 400 too, but never can get my Riva 128 to use anything other than *60* hz for DOS refresh rates, and that flicker is really annoying when you're used to 75-100 hz, so I usually end up sticking to my Win 95 or Voodoo 2 stuff. Ken
> Because it don't use 3dfx > 3d in gp2 is better than 3dfx! This is funny... ;^) l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
J 14 Oct 1998#427511
Well when I found out about the time warp factor of GP2 that spoiled it for me. If you set the graphics right down, for example, you can actually do a lap at Monza in 1:25 Sim time vs 1:22 or 1:23 real time. Or... put in too much detail and the same lap might take over 2:00 minutes real time! Sure you can mess around with the settings but you'll find you need diff settings for every track. And for "multi," Why bother. GP2 is history. GPL rules! Oh and sim time in it = real time. Whatever the detail level. Great job Papyrus! JB Edmonton, AB,
Peter Cook 16 Oct 1998#428090
My god, what do you expect, GP2 is nearly 3 years old, no such thing as 3D accelerators then or DirectX or anything remotely like it, in it's day it was ground breaking and still holds its own today, the tracks are still more accurate than anything else I have seen and the ability to use rookie mode to learn the tracks and still have fun has not been replicated in GPL, F1RS or any other racing sim on the market. I really hope the rumours are true about GP3 and if it is as big an improvement on GP2 as it was on GP1 then I think we are in for something pretty special. Peter Cook
Quoted text (14 lines)>> I now have Microprose' Grand Prix 2 back on the hard-drive... >Well when I found out about the time warp factor of GP2 that spoiled >it for me. If you set the graphics right down, for example, you can >actually do a lap at Monza in 1:25 Sim time vs 1:22 or 1:23 real time. >Or... put in too much detail and the same lap might take over 2:00 >minutes real time! Sure you can mess around with the settings but >you'll find you need diff settings for every track. And for "multi," >Why bother. GP2 is history. GPL rules! Oh and sim time in it = real >time. Whatever the detail level. Great job Papyrus! >JB >Edmonton, AB,
J 16 Oct 1998#428091
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:51:14 +1000, "Peter Cook"
Quoted text (10 lines)>My god, what do you expect, GP2 is nearly 3 years old, no such thing as 3D >accelerators then or DirectX or anything remotely like it, in it's day it >was ground breaking and still holds its own today, the tracks are still more >accurate than anything else I have seen and the ability to use rookie mode >to learn the tracks and still have fun has not been replicated in GPL, F1RS >or any other racing sim on the market. I really hope the rumours are true >about GP3 and if it is as big an improvement on GP2 as it was on GP1 then I >think we are in for something pretty special. >Peter Cook
Peter, I often make allowances for a programs shortcomings due to hardware constraints at the time. Regarding the Time Warp effect I mentioned, well, ICR1 and Nascar1 were out at about the same time and they locked sim time to real time - just like GPL. To me there's no excuse for not doing so. I'll get GP3 [only] if it corrects this problem. JB Edmonton, AB,

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