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NASCAR 2000 Worries

9 posts by 9 people · 10 Oct 1998 - 11 Oct 1998

If 19 cars in GPL is a strain on even the fastest computers, what will 39 or more cars in NASCAR 2000 be like?:( James
It probably won't be that bad, I mean we will have better CPU's by then, and also, there are a lot less parts on a Stock car then on a GPL car to model. Another part to consider is that NASCAR only goes around in circles, so they don't have to model 30+ turns and what happens when you are going a certain speed. I think that if NCR 2000 was released tomorrow, it would be running a lot faster then GPL is now. -Stuart Becktell >If 19 cars in GPL is a strain on even the fastest computers, what will 39 or >more cars in NASCAR 2000 be like?:( >James
19 cars ins't a strain on the new 450's. Now about 39? Well, the one thing that Nascar has going for it is mostly on ovals...no 14 mile tracks with what, a million turns? >If 19 cars in GPL is a strain on even the fastest computers, what will 39 or >more cars in NASCAR 2000 be like?:( >James
% It probably won't be that bad, I mean we will have better CPU's by then, and % also, there are a lot less parts on a Stock car then on a GPL car to model. % Another part to consider is that NASCAR only goes around in circles, so they % don't have to model 30+ turns and what happens when you are going a certain % speed. I think that if NCR 2000 was released tomorrow, it would be running a % lot faster then GPL is now. % -Stuart Becktell Well, I beg to differ. There will be quite alot of extra things to model on the stock car than the GPL car model. I think one of the reasons Papyrus chose 1967 F1 for developing their new physics engine was just that, fewer things to model, no aerodynamics to speak of. They should be modeling quite a few more things in NASCAR than are included in the GPL model. Which also makes sense the decision to progress in this manner: GPL NASCAR CART (even more variables to be modeled). And maybe then Formula 1 (by then Ernie should be willing to pay Papyrus instead of the other way around!). -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Huh? There are probably more parts to stock car that has to be modeled. Granted, you dont have bump ***, but you have just about everything else plus some more such as being able to adjust weight distribution, etc. Gee, I remember at least twice a year the WC cars run roadcourses. And yes, they will have to model all sorts of speeds as WC cars run anywhere from 60 mph turns to 200 mph straight aways.
Adam 10 Oct 1998#426234
My biggest fear I have is LETTERBOX in Nascar3. That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a computer game by far. >If 19 cars in GPL is a strain on even the fastest computers, what will 39 or >more cars in NASCAR 2000 be like?:( >James
I've found I kinda like it. Course, I like the letterbox version of Titanic on my tv screen too <g>. -- Don Burnette >My biggest fear I have is LETTERBOX in Nascar3. That is the stupidest thing >I've ever seen in a computer game by far. >>If 19 cars in GPL is a strain on even the fastest computers, what will 39 >or >>more cars in NASCAR 2000 be like?:( >>James
Ummmmm, a bigger strain on the computer? Seriously, though - in N2000, the computer doesn't have to render the bounching front tires, or the two saparate rearview mirrors. I've also found that frame rate imrpoves when you turn off the drivers arms which is how I drive when i'm in-car. I don't think it'll be much (if any) tougher on hardware than GPL is. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================
Mike Davis 11 Oct 1998#426520
Quoted text (11 lines)> My biggest fear I have is LETTERBOX in Nascar3. That is the stupidest thing > I've ever seen in a computer game by far. > >If 19 cars in GPL is a strain on even the fastest computers, what will 39 > or > >more cars in NASCAR 2000 be like?:( > >James
Adam, You may have never noticed, but Nascar2 already _is_ letterboxed! Think about it, the upper part of the screen never moves or changes, it's just the inside roof of the car. The bottom of the screen is not modeling much, just a few guage needles moving. If you actually look at what you see out the windshield, you'll notice that you have a more limited field of view in N2 than you do in GPL <ggg.> As for my take on letterboxing, I absolutely love it. I think it contributes much to the sense of speed, it allows V1 cards to run at 800x600, plus I think it gives the entire sim a more cinematic feel. I was happy to see Papy go to this format. In a couple more years or so, that's all you are going to see as all displays, TV and computer both, switch to native 16x9 format. All the best, Mike -- Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works Computer/Audio/Video Convergence "from Creative minds spring Creative solutions." http://www.creativemedia-works.com Member, International Webmasters Association http://iwanet.org

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