Nurburgring Best Lap times....????

Out of interest, what sort of lap times are you lot getting at the 'Ring? As the Apex Hot Lap charts still aren't up, this is a valid question! Still, thought I'd get the ball rolling.. best so far 8:17.03; default setup for the Lotus except with taller gears and 5gallons fuel... Come on then, how's everyone else doing? :) Pete Tabram

10:03 :-( -- ICQ #19661434

> On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:46:03 +0100, > > . . best so far 8:17.03 ouch. no fair going OVER the mountains. 9:55 for me.

About 9m 05s

My best was 12 minutes, but I stopped to have a coffee and chat with one of the trackside photographers.. =rez=

9:15.90 in the Ferrari.. spun 3 times - right near the end after the 2nd carussel... DAMN!! I tried the Lotus a couple of times.. spun at least 7 or 8 times, and did a 9:34.xx !! But I just can't keep the damn thing on the road! (Ferrari is tough enough). I would have to say that I am MOST COMFORTABLE racing at the 'Ring.. I've got all the corners down, know where to brake, shift, turn in, etc.. it's just a matter of keeping the car on the road by not making mistakes. I've got the Aremberg through Adenaeur-Forst section nailed!! Can do it faster than Doug Arnao is the included replays.. I love it! .. but it doesn't help that my top speed on the Antoniusbuche is only 181 miles an hour.. did 194 I think in the Lotus.. Anyone else care to post their Ferrari top speeds at the 'Ring? .. what about at Monza.. having setup problems there too.. Thanks, doktorB http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl For the GPL demo track files(Watkins Glen AND Monza), FAQs,demo help, release date updates, and more! new: **"The Grandstand" - GPL Meeting Place for Chat & Online Races** * GPL System Performace Test * Poll-of-the-Week: What's makes GPL so great? -----

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>> On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:46:03 +0100, >> > . . best so far 8:17.03 >ouch. no fair going OVER the mountains. >9:55 for me.

Doug can do it faster than he did it in the replay - the tricky part is doing that and putting it together with the rest of the lap - going total commitment for 8-9 minutes is nigh impossible without a slip-up, and that's usually costly at the Ring :-) I'm not sure about top speed but I've done 8:28 in the Ferrari at the Ring. I'm like you - I know the Lotus is faster but I can't put a lap together with the twitchy swine :-) Cheers! John

Twitchy is the word! Although when you get really dialled in, nothing handles better than the Lotus... If it were possible to be fully committed the full lap, surely a sub 8min is completely feasible... but by the time I get to the Kurussel without losing it, my heart is beating so hard that I usually bottle the last part of the lap! To cross the start finish line is bliss! Now time for an even quicker lap, I think, and then... ...crash at the first corner :( Only another 9min warm up lap and I can try again... Come on John, any idea what Doug's absolute best time is? I've heard of a 8:16 (as mentioned by Alison). Has he bettered that? Has ANYONE bettered that? If so, wheres the replay?!! Yours totally obsessed with the ***y Nordschleife (mainly after driving (and losing it) round the real thing), Pete Tabram

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>>I've got the Aremberg through Adenaeur-Forst section nailed!! Can do it >>faster than Doug Arnao is the included replays.. I love it! >Doug can do it faster than he did it in the replay - the tricky part >is doing that and putting it together with the rest of the lap - going >total commitment for 8-9 minutes is nigh impossible without a slip-up, >and that's usually costly at the Ring :-) >>Anyone else care to post their Ferrari top speeds at the 'Ring? >>.. what about at Monza.. having setup problems there too.. >I'm not sure about top speed but I've done 8:28 in the Ferrari at the >Ring. I'm like you - I know the Lotus is faster but I can't put a lap >together with the twitchy swine :-) >Cheers! >John

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:27:11 +0100, "Pete Tabram" >Come on John, any idea what Doug's absolute best time is? I've heard of a >8:16 (as mentioned by Alison). Has he bettered that? Has ANYONE bettered >that? If so, wheres the replay?!! Berger once described himself as driving one corner at 95% commitment, the next lap at 105% commitment, and so on - those fluctuations will throw you off the road. Senna he described as being at 99% commitment every time on every lap. That aspect of knowing where your limits are is extremely important, and speed comes from being able to realise that and take the car as close to it as you are comfortable without throwing the car off the road. That, IMO, is the difference between Villeneuve and Schumacher - I think both are ultimately as quick as each other, but Schumi can consistently remain closer to his limit without error than Villeneuve can. Hotlapping in a sim is a false demonstration of speed since the only penalty for crossing the limit is the time to restart the lap. Nevertheless, online or in a race the one who can most closely approach his limit will generally be the winner. Cheers! John PS - The best I've seen from Doug is an 8:16, but what really impressed me was that the previous couple of laps were 8:17s. That's some nice consistency!

Hmmmmmmmmm. Still got some way to go then! Shite... Pete Tabram

Hiya John, Pete > PS - The best I've seen from Doug is an 8:16, but what really > impressed me was that the previous couple of laps were 8:17s. That's > some nice consistency! The 8:16.04 is the best "clean" lap I've got (it's on Alisons site).............I've got an 8:15.8x saved that's real messy with, I'm guessing, about 2-3 seconds worth of off track excursions................OTOH, I hear Mr Mansell is in the 8:14's though, and if anyone can go sub 8 minutes , it'll be him :) --Doug

He's down to 8:09.64 last I heard :)

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> Hiya John, Pete > > PS - The best I've seen from Doug is an 8:16, but what really > > impressed me was that the previous couple of laps were 8:17s. That's > > some nice consistency! > The 8:16.04 is the best "clean" lap I've got (it's on Alisons > site).............I've got an 8:15.8x saved that's real messy with, I'm > guessing, about 2-3 seconds worth of off track > excursions................OTOH, I hear Mr Mansell is in the 8:14's though, and > if anyone can go sub 8 minutes , it'll be him :) > --Doug

-- Byron Forbes Captain of Team Lightning Bolt http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS and http://www.frontiernet.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

I'm giving up now.... :-0 Pete

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>He's down to 8:09.64 last I heard :) >> Hiya John, Pete >> > PS - The best I've seen from Doug is an 8:16, but what really >> > impressed me was that the previous couple of laps were 8:17s. That's >> > some nice consistency! >> The 8:16.04 is the best "clean" lap I've got (it's on Alisons >> site).............I've got an 8:15.8x saved that's real messy with, I'm >> guessing, about 2-3 seconds worth of off track >> excursions................OTOH, I hear Mr Mansell is in the 8:14's

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>> if anyone can go sub 8 minutes , it'll be him :) >> --Doug >-- > Byron Forbes > Captain of Team Lightning Bolt > http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS > and > http://www.frontiernet.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm