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When will a true bike sim come out?

10 posts by 8 people · 09 Oct 1998 - 12 Oct 1998

I've played all the motorcycle games. Not one has gotten very close to be called a sim. Castrol Honda claims to be a accurate sim but how they can claim that is beyond me. So many realism errors in that game its not even funny. I had high hopes for that recent Superbike game but it seems pretty bad too. Perhaps sim mode is very different but I doubt it. Motoracer2, please. Redling Racer, ya right. Am I missing any? Just thought I'd vent a bit. Sorry.
Tim O 09 Oct 1998#426039
I think it's too hard to do. Good driving sims are easier since you control a car with your arms and legs, but you control a bike with your whole body. It's amazing to watch a guy like Doohan work a GP bike. Equally amazing to watch Ricky Carmichael or Jeremy McGrath work a 125 or 250 MX bike, respectively. I think we're going to be stuck with arcade racers with realistic touches for a long time. I'm actually OK with that, since I can afford real bikes that I can race. An F1 or NASCAR ride is a little more difficult to come by. :) -- http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1 http://www.off-road.com/~fusion1 (dirt bikes, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)
Rob 09 Oct 1998#426040
Quoted text (8 lines)> >Just thought I'd vent a bit. Sorry. > I think it's too hard to do. > Good driving sims are easier since you control a car with your arms > and legs, but you control a bike with your whole body. > It's amazing to watch a guy like Doohan work a GP bike. > Equally amazing to watch Ricky Carmichael or Jeremy McGrath work a 125 > or 250 MX bike, respectively.
Well, there is a game that simulates using your body to control the bike - it is called Motocross Madness. While it is not exactly a sim, it does a superb job of compromising to make a arcade game feel more like a sim. It's a blast to play, especially online. -- Rob
Dean 10 Oct 1998#426315
I think what your looking for is Superbike World Championship by ***. From the demo this seems like the first true bike sim and the demo is only playable in arcade mode so simulation must be excellent. Its out soon in the UK but I'm not sure about the US. Dean
Perhaps try motocross madness? its dirtbike racing but it seems pretty realistic to me (i have ridden dirt bikes b4)
Based on the demo (thats all I have of course) that game has serious handling problems and realism problems. It is arcade mode but unless there are some MAJOR improvements I cant see the sim mode being accurate at all. I'll keep an open mind however but I will be watching newsgroup reviews of true bike owners/racers to see how the sim mode stacks up.
I way vote for motocross madness. The control feels goofy at first, but you need to compensate for all sorts of stuff that makes sense, like if you're landing on a slope you have to land already turning down the hill a bit or else your tires wash out. try the demo. Way beyond the other demo's I've tried of castrol, wsb, redline, etc. Hey, and multiplayer on the zone is cool too. passing isn't such a big deal but you are racing with real people (mostly trying no to make mistakes, like life).
I own MCM. :) While it is alot of fun its still not a sim. Its definitely an arcade type game. It kinda trys to be a sim but is not a sim. Some day a cycle sim will come. :)
Proyea 11 Oct 1998#426601
Have you tried the just-released microsoft MOTOCROSS MADDNESS? I haven't tried it myself, but if motocross is your thing, I've heard it's pretty true-to-life...
enzo 12 Oct 1998#426905
Personally I don't think that a bike sim is ever going to be very realistic until you can have handlebars that turn and tilt, as well as "pedals" for braking and shifting. I wish some developer would have a talk with Thrustmaster! : ) Neil M. >I think what your looking for is Superbike World Championship by ***. >From the demo this seems like the first true bike sim and the demo is only >playable in arcade mode so simulation must be excellent. Its out soon in the >UK but I'm not sure about the US. >Dean

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