Fixed Setup in NASCAR 2003

Being a newbie (2 weeks) I'm guessing when racing/practicing using the Fixed Setup, that everyone is using the same setup. These guys are actually that much faster in and out of the corner. Like the Rock. I can crank 169-170 down the front strech but I'll be damn if I can get into the 23 second bracket for a lap time. When watching the leaders on replay, the straight speed looks the same but there a second or so faster. These are on the open servers. I guess the Passworded servers, the drivers are really flying. I'm assuming everyone is on the up and up, without changes to any .ini files?? BTW, most people have been great answering questions and giving pointers. This is a lot of fun. Dockmaster #18 -- Bill D Pensacola, FL

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> Being a newbie (2 weeks) I'm guessing when racing/practicing using the > Fixed Setup, that everyone is using the same setup. These guys are > actually that much faster in and out of the corner. Like the Rock. I can > crank 169-170 down the front strech but I'll be damn if I can get into > the 23 second bracket for a lap time. When watching the leaders on > replay, the straight speed looks the same but there a second or so > faster. These are on the open servers. I guess the Passworded servers, > the drivers are really flying. > > I'm assuming everyone is on the up and up, without changes to any .ini > files?? > > BTW, most people have been great answering questions and giving > pointers. This is a lot of fun. > > Dockmaster #18

Well it's just practice,practice,practice

Yes you will find people who run fixed setups who will just blow your doors off until you get better. Here's another way of thinking about: You give 2 people the same guitar and tell them to play the same song. One of them could be a LOT better than the other. Driving is no differant. Talent and practice. "jwilson54" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> BD wrote: > > Being a newbie (2 weeks) I'm guessing when racing/practicing using the > > Fixed Setup, that everyone is using the same setup. These guys are > > actually that much faster in and out of the corner. Like the Rock. I can > > crank 169-170 down the front strech but I'll be damn if I can get into > > the 23 second bracket for a lap time. When watching the leaders on > > replay, the straight speed looks the same but there a second or so > > faster. These are on the open servers. I guess the Passworded servers, > > the drivers are really flying. > > > > I'm assuming everyone is on the up and up, without changes to any .ini > > files?? > > > > BTW, most people have been great answering questions and giving > > pointers. This is a lot of fun. > > > > Dockmaster #18 > Well it's just practice,practice,practice

Good analogy Joel. Just like with the guitar though, a guy with less talent can become much better with practice. However, in the end, the guy with more talent has more potential - it's just whether or not he meets that potential. Wag "Joel Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HBV_b.491$3X2.80@okepread04... Yes you will find people who run fixed setups who will just blow your doors off until you get better. Here's another way of thinking about: You give 2 people the same guitar and tell them to play the same song. One of them could be a LOT better than the other. Driving is no differant. Talent and practice.

Is this why I'm slower than you all the time Joel ? :) -- Bobby Upward #66 B_Bobby_Bobsled "Fat, drunk, and stupid, is no way to go through life, son" "Joel Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HBV_b.491$3X2.80@okepread04... > Yes you will find people who run fixed setups who will just blow your doors > off until you get better. > > Here's another way of thinking about: > You give 2 people the same guitar and tell them to play the same song. One > of them could be a LOT better than the other. Driving is no differant. > Talent and practice. > > "jwilson54" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > BD wrote: > > > Being a newbie (2 weeks) I'm guessing when racing/practicing using the > > > Fixed Setup, that everyone is using the same setup. These guys are > > > actually that much faster in and out of the corner. Like the Rock. I can > > > crank 169-170 down the front strech but I'll be damn if I can get into > > > the 23 second bracket for a lap time. When watching the leaders on > > > replay, the straight speed looks the same but there a second or so > > > faster. These are on the open servers. I guess the Passworded servers, > > > the drivers are really flying. > > > > > > I'm assuming everyone is on the up and up, without changes to any .ini > > > files?? > > > > > > BTW, most people have been great answering questions and giving > > > pointers. This is a lot of fun. > > > > > > Dockmaster #18 > > Well it's just practice,practice,practice > >

Slower in, faster out and tires. Get em every chance you get. Don't burn your tires out trying to catch the 23 sec folks. Manage your tires and you'll pass em on a long green run. Gavel "BD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Being a newbie (2 weeks) I'm guessing when racing/practicing using the > Fixed Setup, that everyone is using the same setup. These guys are > actually that much faster in and out of the corner. Like the Rock. I can > crank 169-170 down the front strech but I'll be damn if I can get into > the 23 second bracket for a lap time. When watching the leaders on > replay, the straight speed looks the same but there a second or so > faster. These are on the open servers. I guess the Passworded servers, > the drivers are really flying. > > I'm assuming everyone is on the up and up, without changes to any .ini > files?? > > BTW, most people have been great answering questions and giving > pointers. This is a lot of fun. > > Dockmaster #18 > -- > Bill D > Pensacola, FL

I gotta agree. I race in three excellent leagues and during practice and qualifying I am never the fastest. I usually rate in the top five, however, in races I am always a threat for the win. Those high speeds do people no good if they use up all their tires and energy at the start of a 50 laps run. Just save your stuff, hang out around 3rd to 5th if ya can and kill 'em the last 20 laps. Shock "Greg Avella" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Slower in, faster out and tires. Get em every chance you get. Don't burn > your tires out trying to catch the 23 sec folks. Manage your tires and > you'll pass em on a long green run. > Gavel > "BD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Being a newbie (2 weeks) I'm guessing when racing/practicing using the > > Fixed Setup, that everyone is using the same setup. These guys are > > actually that much faster in and out of the corner. Like the Rock. I can > > crank 169-170 down the front strech but I'll be damn if I can get into > > the 23 second bracket for a lap time. When watching the leaders on > > replay, the straight speed looks the same but there a second or so > > faster. These are on the open servers. I guess the Passworded servers, > > the drivers are really flying. > > > > I'm assuming everyone is on the up and up, without changes to any .ini > > files?? > > > > BTW, most people have been great answering questions and giving > > pointers. This is a lot of fun. > > > > Dockmaster #18 > > -- > > Bill D > > Pensacola, FL > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Slower in, faster out and tires. Get em every chance you get. Don't burn > your tires out trying to catch the 23 sec folks. Manage your tires and > you'll pass em on a long green run. Thanks, I have noticed that, plus I found I can always count on 4-5 wrecks for postition advancment, if I can clear them. Been doing this Nascar thing for about 4 years but its different racing real people vice the A1. Thanks for the help Bill D Pensacola, FL

In article <HBV_b.491$3X2.80@okepread04>, "Joel Brown" <[email hidden]> writes: >Here's another way of thinking about: >You give 2 people the same guitar and tell them to play the same song. One >of them could be a LOT better than the other. Driving is no differant. >Talent and practice. Some of us have too little of the first, and not enough time for the second. And for a few, no amount of the second will make us competitive... :-( Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

In article <[email hidden]>, "Greg Avella" <[email hidden]> writes: >Slower in, faster out and tires. Get em every chance you get. Don't burn >your tires out trying to catch the 23 sec folks. Manage your tires and >you'll pass em on a long green run. "long green run"? What's THAT? :-) Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

If you aren't getting long green flag runs you are racing at the wrong places. LOL. Shock "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Greg Avella" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Slower in, faster out and tires. Get em every chance you get. Don't burn > >your tires out trying to catch the 23 sec folks. Manage your tires and > >you'll pass em on a long green run. > > "long green run"? What's THAT? > :-) > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East

In article <[email hidden]>, "Shock" <[email hidden]> writes: >If you aren't getting long green flag runs you are racing at the wrong >places. LOL. > Probably. We had a long green run at the Rock on Saturday, but fewer than 10 cars were running at the tine. I've just joined two N2003 leagues(one monday, one thursday), so we'll see how the racing goes there... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, "Shock"<[email hidden]>

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> writes: > > >If you aren't getting long green flag runs you are racing at the wrong > >places. LOL. > > > > Probably. We had a long green run at the Rock on Saturday, but fewer than

10 > cars were running at the tine. I've just joined two N2003 leagues(onemonday,

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> one thursday), so we'll see how the racing goes there... > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East

I was just messing with ya....a lot of leagues have trouble with cautions Guys who don't know how to take care of their cars for long runs or who just push it so hard that they spin continuously. Leagues are the best way to race. They usually result in getting a bunch of a good people who can weed out the wreckers, etc. I ran my second race with a new league I joined last night. We had a major problem with a guy wrecking people and getting smart, needless to say he is probably done for as most leagues won't tolerate that, I don't think this one will either. If they do, I'll step up my schedule again at my other league. Have fun! Shock

Yep, but then there's luck and some good old common sense <g>. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <HBV_b.491$3X2.80@okepread04>, "Joel Brown" <[email hidden]> > writes: > > >Here's another way of thinking about: > >You give 2 people the same guitar and tell them to play the same song.One > >of them could be a LOT better than the other. Driving is no differant. > >Talent and practice. > > Some of us have too little of the first, and not enough time for thesecond.

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> And for a few, no amount of the second will make us competitive... :-( > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East