GPL - RPM-Limit

Hi everybody, yesterday I tried to drive using the Novice-Damage. But, after a few laps, my engine blows away. I noticed when shifting the RPM go very high for a very short moment (I'm accelerating till the Red Limiter). But looking at the opponents I see they make the same acceleration but the RPM doesn't go higher when shifting like me. So what's the problem, what do I have to do. I'm using a T2 PS: Sorry for that poor english. Thanx in Advance Andreas

wrote... Lift off the accelerator when you shift, just as if you were using a clutch. It takes a little getting used to, but after a while it becomes second nature. Devon

The red line isn't a limiter, it merely records the highest RPM the engine has reached, and you've pushed too hard if you're blowing engines. Reduce the point at which you shift, and LIFT the throttle when you do. I wish I could tell you the max. safe RPMs for the various cars, but I'm still working that out. Anybody else have them figured out? Pinebox

These are the rpm limits I use Eagle, 9500 Lotus, 9000 Brabham, 8500 Ferarri, 8500 None of the other cars are worth driving (IMHO) -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

>The red line isn't a limiter, it merely records the highest RPM the engine has >reached, and you've pushed too hard if you're blowing engines. A rev limiter would sure make the learning process with the GP car much easier. I'd stay on the track a lot more if I could "lop off" the top 1500-2000 rpm. I suppose it's time to start playing with the gearing. -Bill -- Bill Mette | "A person is smart. People are dumb." MCSNet, Chicago | - K MiB

Hi Andreas. The problem is that when you shift you are keeping your foot on the gas. Just as in a real car, if you did that the engine would immediately leap to maximum revs. When you depress the clutch for shifting you remove the load from the engine. This maximum revs stresses the engine which eventually dies. What you need to do is take your foot slightly off the gas just as you change gear, and this keeps your revs under control. This takes a little practice to get the timing right, but soon becomes automatic. Cheers! John

hard limit, and try to shift about 1k to 500 below. However, I'm not always sure where they sit on the fuzzy tach dial. :) The telltale is always past vertical at the end of a race. (Yes, I lift on the shift. It happens on the downshifts, I think.) The numbers are: Michael. > These are the rpm limits I use > Eagle, 9500 > Lotus, 9000 > Brabham, 8500 > Ferarri, 8500

Hi Andreas, (English is fine, btw) As others have said here, back off the throttle slightly when you upshift. And when you downshift, keep your current speed in mind, so you don't overrev the engine when you re-engage the clutch. Something which really helps me is my control setup. I use a Thrustmaster joystick for steering/transmission, and Thrustmaster aircraft rudder pedals for throttle/brakes. I was unsure of the pedals at 1st, but they work great, because when you push one down, the other comes up & vice-versa. So, if I want brakes, I stomp the left pedal hard, past the mid-point. But when I want to shift, I pretend it's a clutch, and just tap it slightly while I hit the shift button. That backs off the throttle enough to keep me from over-revving, and adds a more realistic feel to the experience, IMO. If I was using standard car pedals, I couldn't do that, since a tap on that left pedal would give me instant braking action, instead of just backing off the throttle slightly. Lee Remove the "X" to email

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>These are the rpm limits I use >Eagle, 9500 >Lotus, 9000 >Brabham, 8500 >Ferarri, 8500 >None of the other cars are worth driving (IMHO)

You're missing a treat. The Coventry may not be the fastest car in the world but it's a real good learner's car and a little honey to drive. I've done a 1:27 at Zandvoort in it, so while not up at the level of the Lotus it's still no slouch. That and the fact that it is so much easier to drive could win it some race when your opponents are falling of the road in their Lotus, Ferrari etc. Cheers! John

Thank you all for that information. I had all the NEW F1-Racing/Cart Sims which had never the problem with shifting. But I'm practise as much as I can have nearly the same times like before with no damage (and letting the right foot on the pedals) Andreas

says... You have yo lift the throttle when shifting, unlike other sims that simulate "semi-automatic" gearbox.... Hope this helps! Chris Roy

Sounds like you are driving as you would a modern F1 car with a semi auto paddle shift system. This is 1967 with manual gearchanges and quaint things called clutches. Try backing off the throttle during your gearshift as you would in a real manual road going car. Better still, try driving your road car, without backing off the gas whilst changing gear and see how many miles you get before it blows up. :-)) Regards Mark

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> Hi everybody, > yesterday I tried to drive using the Novice-Damage. But, after a few laps, > my engine blows away. I noticed when shifting the RPM go very high for a > very short moment (I'm accelerating till the Red Limiter). But looking at > the opponents I see > they make the same acceleration but the RPM doesn't go higher when shifting > like me. > So what's the problem, what do I have to do. > I'm using a T2 > PS: Sorry for that poor english. > Thanx in Advance > Andreas

> Try backing off the throttle during your gearshift as you > would in a real manual road going car. Better still, try > driving your road car, without backing off the gas whilst > changing gear and see how many miles you get before it blows > up. :-)) Wee!!!! Makes a nice little decorative design on the road, don't it! :) In real life, though, if you're fast enough, the engine doesn't run away that much. Must be my cat-like reflexes I guess.

In real life you don't have 400 h.p. and an ultra light flywheel just waiting to be released. (At least I hope you don't.) ;) Ed Benson > Wee!!!! Makes a nice little decorative design on the road, don't it! :) > In real life, though, if you're fast enough, the engine doesn't run away > that much. Must be my cat-like reflexes I guess.

Hey, I don`t even use the stinky clutch when I change gear ;-o

> >In real life you don't have 400 h.p. and an ultra light flywheel just > >waiting to be released. (At least I hope you don't.) ;) > Hey, I don`t even use the stinky clutch when I change gear ;-o Now there's a racer! Two pedals is enough for a car, who needs the third! :) If you have an old enough car(with no intention of using it for a wedding procession) with enough balls, anythings possible. Of course the Duke boys made a mockery out of long distance jumping...I can see jumping a ravine, or maybe a ditch, but not a canyon!

Depends What you are driving. If you have a Diesel moped fair enough. I wouldnt like to try it in my Sierra Cosworth though. :-)) BTW.... Is yer clutch ready to explode yet? Mark

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> > Try backing off the throttle during your gearshift as you > > would in a real manual road going car. Better still, try > > driving your road car, without backing off the gas whilst > > changing gear and see how many miles you get before it blows > > up. :-)) > Wee!!!! Makes a nice little decorative design on the road, don't it! :) > In real life, though, if you're fast enough, the engine doesn't run away > that much. Must be my cat-like reflexes I guess.