A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at
Digital Sportspage
http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html
Enjoy...
Randy
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Randy Magruder's Grand Prix Legends review at Digital Sportspage
Randy Magruder announced his comprehensive GPL review, which was generally well received. Readers pointed out that complaints about not being able to race the trainer cars could be addressed by INI edits documented by Alison Hine, but Magruder argued a review should not credit undocumented hacks. Others noted features he had missed, such as pausing into replays with F2/F3, and he promised an errata.
With Eric Busch (Papyrus)
review/impressionsGrand Prix Legends
Automated summary.
Guys....this game is seriously the best racing simulation there is. Buy it.
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>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >Digital Sportspage >http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html >Enjoy... >Randy >Randy Magruder >http://members.home.com/rmagruderShould I consider that to be feedback? :)
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>Guys....this game is seriously the best racing simulation there is. Buy it. >>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >>Digital Sportspage >>http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html >>Enjoy... >>Randy >>Randy Magruder >>http://members.home.com/rmagruderActually, I didn't even read your review yet. <g>
I'm just speaking from experience.
>Should I consider that to be feedback? :)
>>Guys....this game is seriously the best racing simulation there is. Buy it.
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>>>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >>>Digital Sportspage >>>http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html >>>Enjoy... >>>Randy >>>Randy Magruder >>>http://members.home.com/rmagruder >Randy Magruder >http://members.home.com/rmagruder>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at
>Digital Sportspage
>http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html
Great review, very comprehensive. The line about the gymnast landing
had me LOL.
Joe
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Randy,a fair and well balanced review.The only thing I would ad is,for those
not inclined to spend the many hours learning to handle a GP car,a trip around
the 'Ring in the Ferrari is an experience not to be missed!
I hoped for at least one chuckle out of that! I have now satisfied my
humor quota <G> Thanks :)
Randy
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>>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >>Digital Sportspage >>http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html >Great review, very comprehensive. The line about the gymnast landing >had me LOL. >Joe >=================================================== >Powerplay98 Fantasy League Rosters available at: >http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mcginn/pp98rosters.html >===================================================Update your main review page please--the only link to GPL is your previous
preview....
Marc.
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>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >Digital Sportspage >http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html >Enjoy... >Randy >Randy Magruder >http://members.home.com/rmagruderI've forwarded this to the editor/webmaster. thanks!
Randy Magruder
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>Update your main review page please--the only link to GPL is your previous >preview.... >Marc. >>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >>Digital Sportspage >>http://www.ni3d.com:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html >>Enjoy... >>Randy >>Randy Magruder >>http://members.home.com/rmagruderRandy,
Nice comprehensive review. A couple of the gripes you have about not
being able to race the trainers or adjust the field to include slower
cars have been addressed on this forum, er newsgroup( sorry, habit
from old compuserve days) by Alison. It might be nice to amend the
review to point to Alison's gpl page to reference how to do those
things.
Jeff Haas
>Nice comprehensive review.
Thanks.
Alison actually has looked at a draft of the review and supplied
feedback where she felt necessary. We discussed the issues you raise
here, and I did allude to .INI file editing several times in my review
(something I normally would NOT do). The bottom line, though, is that
this is a REVIEW, or a judgement of how well PAPYRUS did, not how well
WE can do by hacking into the game settings from outside the game, so
criticism in that regard was warranted. Also, there is nothing in our
review format that allows me to link to others sites for help. I
would gladly refer to Alison's fantastic site if the framework were
there, but its the kind of thing I can only do in the frame work of my
racing column or a strategy guide.
But you do see my dilemma when trying to score a game -- I have to
look at the decisions the developers made, and even though I praise
Papyrus for putting those settings in .INI files, there's nothing in
the doc or UI to tell the user how to alter difficulty levels or hack
to allow racing against trainer cars, so its not something I feel they
should get kudos for in the review (particularly when, from everything
they heard, they are against us doing that to begin with!)
Randy
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Randy Magruder wrote
>I've forwarded this to the editor/webmaster. thanks!
>>Update your main review page please--the only link to GPL is your previous
>>preview....
Final thing...
It is possible to race with the Trainee and Advanced trainee (and Im even
sure it's possible over the net if you trust the other people and they all
edit the ini file for it).
Maybe you could update this ? I know it's not easy for Mr. Anybody to know
this (no documentation at all about this) but Randy you could write it on
how to make that available in your report (not sure if it's too late).
Allison has an explanation on her website in the FAQ section. It's pretty
easy..
http://nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/
- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard!
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
- Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS
- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Emm nevermind..
Jeff Haas wrote the same thing as me and I didn't know ;-)
Tip of the week : Read every message in thread before replying !
- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard!
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
- Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS
- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Also note that while in the car pressing F1 (the standard Windows help
key) will bring up a list of the available keyboard shortcuts.
- Eric
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>Final thing... >It is possible to race with the Trainee and Advanced trainee (and Im even >sure it's possible over the net if you trust the other people and they all >edit the ini file for it). >Maybe you could update this ? I know it's not easy for Mr. Anybody to know >this (no documentation at all about this) but Randy you could write it on >how to make that available in your report (not sure if it's too late).Quoted text (11 lines)
>>A comprehensive review of Grand Prix Legends has been posted at >>Digital Sportspage >>[link lost in import: /:/mine/dsports/pc/grandprixlegends/review.html] >Nice comprehensive review. A couple of the gripes you have about not >being able to race the trainers or adjust the field to include slower >cars have been addressed on this forum, er newsgroup( sorry, habit >from old compuserve days) by Alison. It might be nice to amend the >review to point to Alison's gpl page to reference how to do those >things.Dang! I couldn't figure out how to do that....okay I'll do an
errata....
>One other thing - you don't need to quit out the race to watch a
>replay. F2 and F3 take you to replay and options screen, and very
>helpfully pause the game for you into the bargain...
>Cheers!
>John
Randy Magruder
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Wow, to think I've never known that :-) Thanks Eric!
Cheers!
John
>>Final thing...
>>It is possible to race with the Trainee and Advanced trainee...
>That's just it. It's an undocumented hack. I can't give Papyrus
>points in a review for undocumented hacks. I'll see about putting a
>link to Alison's web site about this, if my editor will go for it.
Randy,
I can see your point, but on the other hand, making the statement
that it can't be done, without mentioning it is indeed possible (even
as a hack), may make some folks make the wrong decision on purchasing
the game.
I haven't seen your review yet, but the reviews of it here makes it
sound like its up to your usual standards. I don't need the review,
I've had the game for three days (just need a PC to run it now...). :)
NAR Northeast Regional Contest Board site - points and more...
much snipped
Given Papy's repeated suggestions to go slow, learn from the trainer
cars, etc it really is hard to understand why racing with the very
same cars that they want you to start with has been "prohibited".
Anyway,fair enough and I understand your reasoning. I guess I get so
used to people hacking
the sims to circumvent licensing and developer shortcomings that I
forget about the average player... I must admit I'm surprised that we
don't have a Honda in the sim yet ;)
do love that Ferrari sound...
Jeff Haas
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