I don't want any hate mail over this and I don't mean to offend anyone but I
played the demo and it sucked!!!
I'm not into this game as some of you are but what If hear and seen, its ok
but not great...........It wouldn't run on my PC now, I got one run of
it...in which I couldn't complete a single lap 'cause of the car being so
temperamental(I know cars were like that back then) but the requirements for
the game make it real slow and you have no hope of controlling it!!!!!
Alright you'll all tell me I'm in the dark ages 'cause I don't have a 3d
card and a really high spec machine, but I did some major upgrades around 12
months back and now my computer is out dated again.....I know thats the way
it goes but thats not the way my money flows!!!!
If you have a really really really fast PC it could be ok but I still don't
think sits as great as all you guys say.
GPL dismissed by player without 3D card
A poster said GPL sucked after struggling with the demo on a PC without a 3D card. Others rebuked him for blaming the game for his hardware and recommended a cheap Rendition card. The thread turned into a debate on whether developers should state more realistic minimum requirements.
Automated summary.
>It's not slow on my system. It runs at the maximum 36 fps.
What's your system specs? And is that 36fps with a full field and all
graphics? Just curious.
>I don't want any hate mail over this and I don't mean to offend anyone but I
>played the demo and it sucked!!!
>Alright you'll all tell me I'm in the dark ages 'cause I don't have a 3d
>card and a really high spec machine, but I did some major upgrades around 12
>months back and now my computer is out dated again.....I know thats the way
>it goes but thats not the way my money flows!!!!
You're fully aware that your PC hasn't got the horsepower to run
it...and yet it's GPL that sucks?
I think AGN are looking for reviewers if you're at a loose end... ;-)
Cheers!
John
John Wallace wrote
^^ Quote of the month award ;-D
BTW, for those who just want to try racing online...
Im preparing (don't know why but learning) on how to create an #IRC
channel..
Still, just join any Undernet server and log into the #GPL channel...
I hope I helped...
- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard!
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
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- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
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If you computer SUCKS dont say GPL sucks. Any new game you buy is gonna suck
on your system BTW. Time to get a 3d card or a new system. Or better yet
just stop playing games all together so we dont have to read this kind of BS
from people like you.
Arthur
Stealth Racing
http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html
>I don't want any hate mail over this and I don't mean to offend anyone but I
>played the demo and it sucked!!!
>I'm not into this game as some of you are but what If hear and seen, its ok
>but not great...........It wouldn't run on my PC now, I got one run of
>it...in which I couldn't complete a single lap 'cause of the car being so
>temperamental(I know cars were like that back then) but the requirements for
>the game make it real slow and you have no hope of controlling it!!!!!
>Alright you'll all tell me I'm in the dark ages 'cause I don't have a 3d
>card and a really high spec machine, but I did some major upgrades around 12
>months back and now my computer is out dated again.....I know thats the way
>it goes but thats not the way my money flows!!!!
>If you have a really really really fast PC it could be ok but I still don't
>think sits as great as all you guys say.
Running GPL or just about any modern software without a 3D card makes you clueless. Drop
by the 2nd hand software shop sometime!
PS- someone's gunna drop in here soon and complain about bad GPL frame rates on their
pocket calculator!
--
Byron Forbes
Captain of Team Lightning Bolt
http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS
and
http://www.frontiernet.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm
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> I don't want any hate mail over this and I don't mean to offend anyone but I > played the demo and it sucked!!! > I'm not into this game as some of you are but what If hear and seen, its ok > but not great...........It wouldn't run on my PC now, I got one run of > it...in which I couldn't complete a single lap 'cause of the car being so > temperamental(I know cars were like that back then) but the requirements for > the game make it real slow and you have no hope of controlling it!!!!! > Alright you'll all tell me I'm in the dark ages 'cause I don't have a 3d > card and a really high spec machine, but I did some major upgrades around 12 > months back and now my computer is out dated again.....I know thats the way > it goes but thats not the way my money flows!!!! > If you have a really really really fast PC it could be ok but I still don't > think sits as great as all you guys say.The date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:29:51 +0100;
The message.....
Sounds like a 3d card is all you need really. What spec is your
system? Even a cheapo (50) Rendition card will make a massive
difference. The 3d card does just about all the graphics processing
thus allowing your cpu to get on with calculating the physics. A
*huge* burden is lifted from your cpu.
Apparently the demo is miles behind the Full Version as far as quality
is concerned. Also the feeling of speed is meant to be awesome on
circuits *other* than Watkins Glen, which may be the one your running.
Then there are the setups...................
I'll have to wait 'till the October 9th to get the full lot, but it
certainly sounds worth the wait.
Byron Forbes wrote
Agh help !!!
GPL is very slow and choppy on my Altair !!!
I tried it on a newer computer at my friend's house (ColecoVision) but it
seems that the round metallic thing in the plastic box doesn't fit anywhere
!!! Oh well at least I have a funky manual !
PS- It was a joke.. for people with non-funky minds ;-P
- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard!
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
- Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS
- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
How can the requirements for a game "make it real slow"?
The requirements are there to show you that if you have a machine that is
below what the requirements state you probably shouldn't bother with the
game.
Then don't ***. If your machine can't handle the game that's fine. But,
that doesn't mean you should try the game on a deficient machine and then
post that the game sucks because you can't play it.
What you think is irrelevant. You tried the game on a machine that, by
your admission, is below the stated minimums. The conclusions you drew
from your experience in that environment are baseless.
Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
technologically advanced machine.
Moin Graham !!!
GD> Alright you'll all tell me I'm in the dark ages 'cause I don't have a 3d
GD> card and a really high spec machine, but I did some major upgrades
GD> around 12 months back and now my computer is out dated again.....I know
GD> thats the way it goes but thats not the way my money flows!!!!
GD>
GD> If you have a really really really fast PC it could be ok but I still
GD> don't think sits as great as all you guys say.
Well, I don't think a AMD K6 200 is a really fast PC - but GPL kicks
ass on my machine...at least in the demo.
Also, man mailt sich...
.\\atze [ FmMW2109 - FmMB2139 ]
*home* : http://www.home4u.de/buesing/
I've replied to people above who have said the same thing, I'm not putting
you all down, just giving my idea of things and the game looks ok but plays
crap!!
I know.
I've heard of them, I know of them, I know all about them, but I've never
seen a rendition card!!!
get real
I know my PC is slower than the requirements but to be fair I've played
games like that before and atleast I can still manage to play it
slowly.....and don't say it the physics!!
Hear the story about sour grapes? It is that great! If you can't run it
now, be sure to pick it up in the future whenever you upgrade.
>I don't want any hate mail over this and I don't mean to offend anyone but I
>played the demo and it sucked!!!
>I'm not into this game as some of you are but what If hear and seen, its ok
>but not great...........It wouldn't run on my PC now, I got one run of
>it...in which I couldn't complete a single lap 'cause of the car being so
>temperamental(I know cars were like that back then) but the requirements for
>the game make it real slow and you have no hope of controlling it!!!!!
>Alright you'll all tell me I'm in the dark ages 'cause I don't have a 3d
>card and a really high spec machine, but I did some major upgrades around 12
>months back and now my computer is out dated again.....I know thats the way
>it goes but thats not the way my money flows!!!!
>If you have a really really really fast PC it could be ok but I still don't
>think sits as great as all you guys say.
>Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
>anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
>minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
>that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
>technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
>technologically advanced machine.
I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave
more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame
rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
________
Eldred Pickett
e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply
Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...
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> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that > >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system > >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off, > >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge, > >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge, > >technologically advanced machine. > I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave > more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame > rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel.
Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it
is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest
hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ...................
--
Byron Forbes
Captain of Team Lightning Bolt
http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS
and
[link lost in import: /~godsoe/bolt/home.htm]
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> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that > >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system > >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off, > >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge, > >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge, > >technologically advanced machine. > I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave > more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame > rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT. > ________ > Eldred Pickett > e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply > Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...>> I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave
>> more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame
>> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
>Acceptable to who? They can't read your mind...
>Trips
Ok, I didn't fully explain. Based their responses to previous releases. I'm
sure they've heard from customers and playtesters alike...
________
Eldred Pickett
e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply
Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...
Did I *say* it should run on a 486?!? NO. If the program takes advantage of
the latest hardware, FINE, I'm all for it. I'll have to decide if I want
to get a newer machine just for one game. Just don't state the minimum
requirements at a p166(thus giving false hope) when in REALITY you need a 266
to get any enjoyment(playability).
Did I make it clear this time?
In article
________
Eldred Pickett
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>If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel. >Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it >is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest >hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ................... >> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that >> >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system >> >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off, >> >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge, >> >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge, >> >technologically advanced machine. >> I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave >> more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame >> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT. >> ________ >> Eldred Pickett >> e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply >> Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea... >-- > Byron Forbes > Captain of Team Lightning Bolt > http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS > and > [link lost in import: /~godsoe/bolt/home.htm]> Did I *say* it should run on a 486?!? NO. If the program takes advantage of
> the latest hardware, FINE, I'm all for it. I'll have to decide if I want
> to get a newer machine just for one game.
one game? or a new generation of games?
actually, no.
so what you're saying is that all software producers should make a list of
minimum requirements. minimum to run the game (p166) and then the minimum
required to passify people of all different personalities. that alone
could take the backside of the box. perhaps a velcro leaflet of some sort
attached to the box listing various degrees of minimum requirements so
that _everyone_ is taken into account.
don't blame papyrus for the fact that you won't upgrade. a pII based
motherboard and chip are _entirely_ too cheap now to hang onto that
processor you have.
that, or find a hobby you can afford/cope with shelling out some bucks
for. video games/sims are a little out of your league, apparently.
-jch
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> >> I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave > >> more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame > >> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT. > >Acceptable to who? They can't read your mind... > >Trips > Ok, I didn't fully explain. Based their responses to previous releases. I'm > sure they've heard from customers and playtesters alike...Surely you don't take the slightest notice of what the min req say's on any box do you?
Mike Lescault, former Papy spokesman, told us we'd be wanting a PII300 ages ago. Maybe
that's why he's an ex employee. LOL.
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Captain of Team Lightning Bolt
http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS
and
[link lost in import: /~godsoe/bolt/home.htm]
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> Did I *say* it should run on a 486?!? NO. If the program takes advantage of > the latest hardware, FINE, I'm all for it. I'll have to decide if I want > to get a newer machine just for one game. Just don't state the minimum > requirements at a p166(thus giving false hope) when in REALITY you need a 266 > to get any enjoyment(playability). > Did I make it clear this time? > In article > >If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel. > >Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it > >is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest > >hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ................... > >> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that > >> >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system > >> >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off, > >> >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge, > >> >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge, > >> >technologically advanced machine. > >> I know, I'm jumping in late. But, it would be nice if the developers gave > >> more realistic minimums. They should know from previous releases what frame > >> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT. > >> ________ > >> Eldred Pickett > >> e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply > >> Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea... > >-- > > Byron Forbes > > Captain of Team Lightning Bolt > > http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS > > and > > [link lost in import: /~godsoe/bolt/home.htm] > ________ > Eldred Pickett > e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply > Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...Actually Byron it runs rather well on a P200MMX/Monster 1/ 64M RAM. You do have to lower
the number of cars in races...I've tried 5-7 with acceptable (35fps) framerates and all
options on. I've found the the number of sounds is what really sends the framerate down the
tubes...so I leave it set at 3 and I'm a happy camper....
....but I really do need to upgrade to a P II-350...<wink>
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