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CMR 4 Demo

17 posts by 8 people · 29 Feb 2004 12:15 UTC - 02 Mar 2004 21:43 UTC

me 29 Feb 2004 12:15 UTC#42200
I've recently downloaded the demo, and was just wondering if anybody else experiences a, ( this is the best way I can describe it), drag/stutter or strange slowing down, and then 'catch-up' of the graphics? The frame rate seems high, and i have tried reducing graphics to low in the game, without sucess. I have 512mb ram, xp1600, geforce4mx400 Apart from that problem, the game runs fine. It's oviously an improvement on cmr3, but there again, that wouldn't be difficult. The handling seems, 'assisted' though, in too many ways. Any thoughts on the graphics issue would be appreciated. Thanks for your time
"Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c1stms$1mh2lt$[email hidden]... > ...but those with fast PCs like a 2.0GHz+ and a 9700 or better should > probably leave it on - looks much smoother... >Doesn't V-Sync limit your framerates ? Not ideal if you have a quick PC. Just asking.
Mitch_A 29 Feb 2004 18:25 UTC↳ reply to redTed#42149
IIRC doesnt v-synch lock the frame rate to the monitors refresh rate to prevent tearing? So if youre running 100hz monitor refresh and your FPS doesnt go over 100fps you should technically be ok right? The real problem begins with the 60hz refresh and fast machines with v-synch enabled. Mitch "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c1t6sm$1mi31m$[email hidden]... > > > > Doesn't V-Sync limit your framerates ? Not ideal if you have a quick PC. > Just asking. > >
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:18q0c.31902$[email hidden]... > IIRC doesnt v-synch lock the frame rate to the monitors refresh rate to > prevent tearing? So if youre running 100hz monitor refresh and your FPS > doesnt go over 100fps you should technically be ok right? The realproblem > begins with the 60hz refresh and fast machines with v-synch enabled. > > Mitch First off, I'm not sure what the real difference is between 100 frames and 60. The debate rages. So actually, I don't think enabling v-sync with machines running at 60hz (FPD, mostly) is a "real problem". Alanb
Quoted text (10 lines)> "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c1t6sm$1mi31m$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Doesn't V-Sync limit your framerates ? Not ideal if you have a quick PC. > > Just asking. > > > > > >
I'd agree. I dont see that much of a diff going from 60 to 100 fps. The key is when I get into a high detail area that eats FPS. I have a fudge factor which keeps my frame rate above 60 in a worst case scenario and so I must adjust my refresh rate to the "best" case scenario. Something else I heard but really dont know if its a REAL factor but I liked the sound of it ;). The Physics engine in NR2003 is 57hz so I keep my FPS above that "magic" number to maximize performance. Mitch "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xfr0c.148654$jk2.581773@attbi_s53...
Quoted text (16 lines)> > > First off, I'm not sure what the real difference is between 100 frames and > 60. The debate rages. > > So actually, I don't think enabling v-sync with machines running at 60hz > (FPD, mostly) is a "real problem". > > Alanb > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:c1t6sm$1mi31m$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't V-Sync limit your framerates ? Not ideal if you have a quick
PC.
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > Just asking. > > > > > > > > > > > > >
vsync locks the frame rate to the monitor's refresh rate. This gives the maximum smoothness possible and avoids ugly tearing artifacts. However, if your PC can't keep up that frame rate, it will drop back to half the refresh rate and that's what produces stuttering. If your running a very fast PC that can constantly maintain a frame rate higher than your monitor refresh rate, then turning on vsync is the icing on the cake in terms of image quality. Otherwise you're probably best to turn it off....
"Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c1trai$1mo5ed$[email hidden]... > vsync locks the frame rate to the monitor's refresh rate. This gives the > maximum smoothness possible and avoids ugly tearing artifacts. However,if > your PC can't keep up that frame rate, it will drop back to half therefresh > rate and that's what produces stuttering. If your running a very fast PC > that can constantly maintain a frame rate higher than your monitor refresh > rate, then turning on vsync is the icing on the cake in terms of image > quality. Otherwise you're probably best to turn it off.... > > I'd agree: that's pretty much it. Alanb
> > vsync locks the frame rate to the monitor's refresh rate. This givesthe > > maximum smoothness possible and avoids ugly tearing artifacts. However, > if > > your PC can't keep up that frame rate, it will drop back to half the > refresh > > rate and that's what produces stuttering. If your running a very fastPC > > that can constantly maintain a frame rate higher than your monitorrefresh
Quoted text (7 lines)> > rate, then turning on vsync is the icing on the cake in terms of image > > quality. Otherwise you're probably best to turn it off.... > > > > > > I'd agree: that's pretty much it. >
Nice description, thanks. What would be the best bet for an LCD monitor running through a DVI input that is a constant 60hz refresh ?
Aidee 01 Mar 2004 17:26 UTC↳ reply to redTed#42129
It shouldnt be at 60hz refresh....why dont you change it to the usual max with them of 70,72 or 75 ...? AD "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c1vmld$upm1a$[email hidden]... > > > > vsync locks the frame rate to the monitor's refresh rate. This gives > the > > > maximum smoothness possible and avoids ugly tearing artifacts.However,
Quoted text (20 lines)> > if > > > your PC can't keep up that frame rate, it will drop back to half the > > refresh > > > rate and that's what produces stuttering. If your running a very fast > PC > > > that can constantly maintain a frame rate higher than your monitor > refresh > > > rate, then turning on vsync is the icing on the cake in terms of image > > > quality. Otherwise you're probably best to turn it off.... > > > > > > > > > > I'd agree: that's pretty much it. > > > > Nice description, thanks. > What would be the best bet for an LCD monitor running through a DVI input > that is a constant 60hz refresh ? > >
redTed 01 Mar 2004 19:51 UTC↳ reply to Aidee#42138
"AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c1vrog$vle$[email hidden]... > It shouldnt be at 60hz refresh....why dont you change it to the usual max > with them of 70,72 or 75 ...? I think refresh rates are not an option when using LCD's through DVI input. You can't alter refresh rates
"redTed" wrote: > > It shouldnt be at 60hz refresh....why dont you change it to the usual > > max with them of 70,72 or 75 ...? > > I think refresh rates are not an option when using LCD's through DVI > input. You can't alter refresh rates I sense another CRT vs LCD thread looming. You promised not to redTed... :)
"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jCM0c.6140$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> "redTed" wrote: > > > > It shouldnt be at 60hz refresh....why dont you change it to the usual > > > max with them of 70,72 or 75 ...? > > > > I think refresh rates are not an option when using LCD's through DVI > > input. You can't alter refresh rates > > I sense another CRT vs LCD thread looming. You promised not to redTed...
:) > >No, no..I'm just asking ..really.. No flames :)
"redTed" wrote: > > I sense another CRT vs LCD thread looming. You promised not to redTed... > :) > > > No, no..I'm just asking ..really.. No flames :) Tis ok. We are a mature bunch of adults on RAS - not like the kiddies on the games.action group - even DGF is quite well behaved these days since he was finally assimilated into the Papy fanboy club... :)
>- even DGF is quite well behaved these days since he was finallyassimilated into the Papy fanboy club... :) Lol..that must have been painful.
Larry 02 Mar 2004 21:43 UTC↳ reply to Aidee#41946
LCD's usually have fixed refresh rates. -Larry "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c1vrog$vle$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> It shouldnt be at 60hz refresh....why dont you change it to the usual max > with them of 70,72 or 75 ...? > > AD > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c1vmld$upm1a$[email hidden]... > > > > > > vsync locks the frame rate to the monitor's refresh rate. This
gives
Quoted text (7 lines)> > the > > > > maximum smoothness possible and avoids ugly tearing artifacts. > However, > > > if > > > > your PC can't keep up that frame rate, it will drop back to half the > > > refresh > > > > rate and that's what produces stuttering. If your running a very
fast > > PC > > > > that can constantly maintain a frame rate higher than your monitor > > refresh > > > > rate, then turning on vsync is the icing on the cake in terms ofimage
Quoted text (9 lines)> > > > quality. Otherwise you're probably best to turn it off.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd agree: that's pretty much it. > > > > > > > Nice description, thanks. > > What would be the best bet for an LCD monitor running through a DVI
input > > that is a constant 60hz refresh ? > > > > > >

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