Vocabulary lesson for the day...

I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with this one, but here goes anyway. ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever operated by the foot and having various functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small quantities. Let's try to keep these two words distinct. That is all ;-) Tony Long

LOL..This is funny..I like it LOL

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> I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > this one, but here goes anyway. > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > operated by the foot and having various > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > quantities. > Let's try to keep these two words distinct. > That is all ;-) > Tony Long

Ped-ant, n, One who makes a vain display of his learning; a narrow minded scholar !!! Mark

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> I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > this one, but here goes anyway. > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > operated by the foot and having various > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > quantities. > Let's try to keep these two words distinct. > That is all ;-) > Tony Long > Path: easynet-apple!easynet-tele!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > Subject: Vocabulary lesson for the day... > Date: 22 Sep 1998 18:25:32 GMT > Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services > Lines: 18 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.77.28.244 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) > Xref: easynet-apple rec.autos.simulators:34816 > I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > this one, but here goes anyway. > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > operated by the foot and having various > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > quantities. > Let's try to keep these two words distinct. > That is all ;-) > Tony Long

We won't even get into "brake" and "break"... :> :> I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with :> this one, but here goes anyway. :> :> ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a :> foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or :> pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever :> operated by the foot and having various :> functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. :> :> ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling :> small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small :> quantities. :> :> Let's try to keep these two words distinct. :> :> That is all ;-) :> :> Tony Long

I actually saw someone use the phrase "break petal" in a post in this ng not too long ago!! --Keith (Spatula)

I no Im going too get flamed for this but it really bothers me win some people criticise other people about there righting! :) Ed > I actually saw someone use the phrase "break petal" in a post in this > ng not too long ago!!

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> I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > this one, but here goes anyway. > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > operated by the foot and having various > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > quantities.

On an international forum you should be prepared to encounter people using English as a second language. So, how do I setup the paddels on the GP1, so i cann youze the gas and breike on seperate aksis? ;^) l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

or "their" and "they're" -/- Walk Walker

or "your" and you're" > >We won't even get into "brake" and "break"... > or "their" and "they're" > -/- Walk Walker

> I no Im going too get flamed for this but it really bothers me win some > people criticise other people about there righting! > :) Me too Ed, In the real world, you would not criticise someone's use of vocabulary or grammar in their speech (especially not in public places). It would only serve to alienate yourself from others, and ultimately, the offender would likely end up with a smack in the gob. I see no difference between the above and digging at people in newsgroups. It is amazing how many 'brave' and***y people there are in ***space. It is the content of contribution to the thread that counts..... The overall flavour. If it is a load of bullshit, then by all means flame on. Otherwise, people should remember that this NG is not called rec.english.spellinglessons Mark P.S Spot my spelling mistake if you can :-)

And there is English (US) and English (Brit). There are differenges there as well Mark

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> I see no difference between the above and digging at people > in newsgroups. It is amazing how many 'brave' and***y > people there are in ***space. It is the content of > contribution to the thread that counts..... The overall > flavour. If it is a load of bullshit, then by all means > flame on. Otherwise, people should remember that this NG is > not called rec.english.spellinglessons > Mark > P.S Spot my spelling mistake if you can :-)

To be honest, I thought this thread started out pretty nicely. It was done politely and humorously. It wasn't one of those "It's PEDAL, you ***ing MORON!" threads. I don't see any problem with correcting spelling and grammar mistakes if it's done in the right context. We're all trying to communicate in english in here. What's wrong with someone actually LEARNING something in here. Again, I don't correct people and I believe I have *never* posted a grammar or spelling correction. But if a word is consistently misused and it relates to the thread I don't see a problem with a cute post like the original. You're right, though. Some people can be pretty tactless and rude about it... They DO deserve a smack in the gob (I don't know what that is, but it sounds appropriate).

Well, Mark, let's start with the grammar. Firstly, you have a comma between two sentences: "Me too Ed" should finish with a full-stop if the next word is as you have written it. Secondly, there is no need for a comma between "world" and "you". There is no pause required in the speech pattern there. Thirdly, the phrase "and ultimately", which is created by commas before and after the phrase, is incorrect. Only the word "ultimately" should be accentuated and the first comma should follow "and", not "others". Etcetera.:o) -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

Just like: "" Jake says Joanna I think I'll put on some lipstick "" :-) Bart

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> Well, Mark, let's start with the grammar. > Firstly, you have a comma between two sentences: "Me too Ed" should > finish with a full-stop if the next word is as you have written it. > Secondly, there is no need for a comma between "world" and "you". There > is no pause required in the speech pattern there. > Thirdly, the phrase "and ultimately", which is created by commas before > and after the phrase, is incorrect. Only the word "ultimately" should > be accentuated and the first comma should follow "and", not "others".

Mark Seery wrote I swear I didn't look at other postings before searching for it (English-grammar 101 for me ;-D ). criticize should be "criticize" difference should be "differences" (but it can AFAIK be correct on the 2 ways) flavour should be "flavor" I just don't accept people who criticize for the bad English of people. Sure sometime it's obvious (people writing in CAPS with no punctuation), but if that's the way they write you can't do nothing against it. It can be because of how they live, where they live, etc... I mean.. not everybody is American, Britain, Australian or living in any English-speaking country. Not everybody even speaks English has a primary language. As far as I know there was only 28% of the total people on the Earth who speak it. And on those 28%, I doubt they all can write it perfectly, mostly because of their situation (= me, who writes English very classy but it's shown that It's not my first language, especially with idioms and sentence syntax) At least I have a English dictionary 30cm off my monitor. I doubt many Americans have this privilege. And Im using it very often ;-) - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

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Hey, Francois I think you have to check the nationality first ! Mark is (loosely) a Brit - so "flavour" is definitely ok, "criticise" is *probably* ok, "difference" is fine in that usage. He's got me stumped on the spelling mistake, although I notice that "P.S" should be "P.S." - could that be it ? Andy

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> Mark Seery wrote > >Me too Ed, > >In the real world, you would not criticise someone's use of > >vocabulary or grammar in their speech (especially not in > >public places). It would only serve to alienate yourself > >from others, and ultimately, the offender would likely end > >up with a smack in the gob. > >I see no difference between the above and digging at people > >in newsgroups. It is amazing how many 'brave' and***y > >people there are in ***space. It is the content of > >contribution to the thread that counts..... The overall > >flavour. If it is a load of bullshit, then by all means > >flame on. Otherwise, people should remember that this NG is > >not called rec.english.spellinglessons > >Mark > >P.S Spot my spelling mistake if you can :-) > I swear I didn't look at other postings before searching for it > (English-grammar 101 for me ;-D ). > criticize should be "criticize" > difference should be "differences" (but it can AFAIK be correct on the 2 > ways) > flavour should be "flavor" > I just don't accept people who criticize for the bad English of people. Sure > sometime it's obvious (people writing in CAPS with no punctuation), but if > that's the way they write you can't do nothing against it. It can be > because of how they live, where they live, etc... > I mean.. not everybody is American, Britain, Australian or living in any > English-speaking country. Not everybody even speaks English has a primary > language. As far as I know there was only 28% of the total people on the > Earth who speak it. And on those 28%, I doubt they all can write it > perfectly, mostly because of their situation (= me, who writes English very > classy but it's shown that It's not my first language, especially with > idioms and sentence syntax) > At least I have a English dictionary 30cm off my monitor. I doubt many > Americans have this privilege. And Im using it very often ;-) > - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! > - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. > - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) > - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ > - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Hi Bruce The whole concept of a comma as an indicator of a "pause for breath" is outdated and overly rigid. Perhaps that is the way it's taught in elementary level grammar classes over in 'Oz, but in any contemporary writing course one would never adhere so slavishly to this "rule". I just came across a nice passage in a book by Martin Amis in which he groups the "commas for pauses in speech" people with the mouth-breathers of the world. Written expression is different than speaking; one mustn't always apply the same techniques. Oh, by the way, do you see my tongue? It's in my cheek. And did you notice that I broke my own rule? Writing is freeform. :) Stephen : Well, Mark, let's start with the grammar. : Firstly, you have a comma between two sentences: "Me too Ed" should : finish with a full-stop if the next word is as you have written it. : Secondly, there is no need for a comma between "world" and "you". There : is no pause required in the speech pattern there. : Thirdly, the phrase "and ultimately", which is created by commas before : and after the phrase, is incorrect. Only the word "ultimately" should : be accentuated and the first comma should follow "and", not "others". : Etcetera.:o) :> :> > :> > : -- : Regards, : Bruce. : ---------- : The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- : http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

I never implied that my grammar was perfect. You are missing the point totally. I was trying to stress simply that people are too keen to pick at other peoples shortcomings without due respect or consideration. By the way. English happens to be my second language. I'm an Irishman who happens to speak fluently in a Gaelic dialect called Eurse. If you really want to split hairs, Let's see you speak a few words in my tongue pal.

Boy, people are so defensive and opinionated in these newsgroups. When I said I'd be opening Pandora's box I was just kidding guys. I'm well aware of the international setting here and the nuances that go with it. I don't believe I singled anyone out, nor did I try to sound arrogant. All I did was look up the two words in the dictionary, and relay the info. I guess you'll all be screaming "off with his head" for a Funk & Wagnalls copyright infringement. Don't get me wrong, I make plenty of spelling and grammatical mistakes myself. Especially when I've had a few beers. Please just lighten up fellas, the intent was to humorously provide useful info i.e., most of us use pedals in our recreational automobile simulators. But then again, some of us use the group to peddle things too! ;-) Peace... Tony Long

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> I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > this one, but here goes anyway. > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > operated by the foot and having various > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > quantities. > Let's try to keep these two words distinct. > That is all ;-) > Tony Long

Flavor =flavour in British english :-))

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> Mark Seery wrote > >Me too Ed, > >In the real world, you would not criticise someone's use of > >vocabulary or grammar in their speech (especially not in > >public places). It would only serve to alienate yourself > >from others, and ultimately, the offender would likely end > >up with a smack in the gob. > >I see no difference between the above and digging at people > >in newsgroups. It is amazing how many 'brave' and***y > >people there are in ***space. It is the content of > >contribution to the thread that counts..... The overall > >flavour. If it is a load of bullshit, then by all means > >flame on. Otherwise, people should remember that this NG is > >not called rec.english.spellinglessons > >Mark > >P.S Spot my spelling mistake if you can :-) > I swear I didn't look at other postings before searching for it > (English-grammar 101 for me ;-D ). > criticize should be "criticize" > difference should be "differences" (but it can AFAIK be correct on the 2 > ways) > flavour should be "flavor" > I just don't accept people who criticize for the bad English of people. Sure > sometime it's obvious (people writing in CAPS with no punctuation), but if > that's the way they write you can't do nothing against it. It can be > because of how they live, where they live, etc... > I mean.. not everybody is American, Britain, Australian or living in any > English-speaking country. Not everybody even speaks English has a primary > language. As far as I know there was only 28% of the total people on the > Earth who speak it. And on those 28%, I doubt they all can write it > perfectly, mostly because of their situation (= me, who writes English very > classy but it's shown that It's not my first language, especially with > idioms and sentence syntax) > At least I have a English dictionary 30cm off my monitor. I doubt many > Americans have this privilege. And Im using it very often ;-) > - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! > - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. > - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) > - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ > - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Roger. > Hi Bruce > The whole concept of a comma as an indicator of a "pause for breath" > is outdated and overly rigid. -- Regards, Bruce. ----------

Okay. "Guinness", "Guinness"......and more "Guinness". How's that? :o) > By the way. English happens to be my second language. I'm an > Irishman who happens to speak fluently in a Gaelic dialect > called Eurse. If you really want to split hairs, Let's see > you speak a few words in my tongue pal.

Personally, I think you opened a can of worms Tony LOL Mark

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> Boy, people are so defensive and opinionated > in these newsgroups. When I said I'd be > opening Pandora's box I was just kidding > guys. I'm well aware of the international > setting here and the nuances that go with it. > I don't believe I singled anyone out, nor did > I try to sound arrogant. All I did was look > up the two words in the dictionary, and relay > the info. I guess you'll all be screaming > "off with his head" for a Funk & Wagnalls > copyright infringement. Don't get me wrong, I > make plenty of spelling and grammatical > mistakes myself. Especially when I've had a > few beers. > Please just lighten up fellas, the intent was > to humorously provide useful info i.e., most > of us use pedals in our recreational > automobile simulators. But then again, some > of us use the group to peddle things too! ;-) > Peace... > Tony Long > > I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > > this one, but here goes anyway. > > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > > operated by the foot and having various > > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > > quantities. > > Let's try to keep these two words distinct. > > That is all ;-) > > Tony Long

Year.,:; Wot ee sedd, Wie inventit this langwij in the british isles guv. mARK" :-)) end of fred hoepfulley > Hey, Francois > I think you have to check the nationality first ! Mark is (loosely) a > Brit - so "flavour" is definitely ok,

Is this the reward for all people who try to write english? Comment on every word that they spell wrong? I'd like to see how you write Dutch or even Korean! I bet you can't even get one single sentence right. You don't seem to see how lucky you are that your native language happens to be the same as the one used on the web. You'd better show some respect for everyone who speaks/writes multiple languages. JE BENT GEWOON EEN ASOCIALE AMERKAANSE ZAK, DIE NIET EENS WEET DAT ER OOK MENSEN ZIJN DIE GEEN ENGELS SPREKEN, OMDAT JE ZO VERWEND BENT DAT IEDEREEN ENGELS PROBEERT TE SPREKEN. WACHT MAAR TOTDAT JE EEN KEER ERGENS KOMT WAAR ZE GEEN ENGELS SPREKEN, DAN STA JE MOOI VOOR LUL MET DAT ENE TAALTJE DAT JE MAAR KENT. DE GROETEN! Johan Foederer.

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> I know I may be opening up Pandora's box with > this one, but here goes anyway. > ped-al (ped'l) adj 1. Of or pertaining to a > foot, feet, or a footlike part. 2. Of or > pertaining to a pedal --n. Mech. A lever > operated by the foot and having various > functions: a bicycle pedal, a piano pedal. > ped-dle (ped'l) 1. To travel about selling > small wares. 2. To sell or dispense in small > quantities. > Let's try to keep these two words distinct. > That is all ;-) > Tony Long

In fits!

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> Okay. > "Guinness", "Guinness"......and more "Guinness". > How's that? :o) > > By the way. English happens to be my second language. I'm an > > Irishman who happens to speak fluently in a Gaelic dialect > > called Eurse. If you really want to split hairs, Let's see > > you speak a few words in my tongue pal.

-- Byron Forbes Captain of Team Lightning Bolt http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS and http://www.frontiernet.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

> Is this the reward for all people who try to write english? Comment on > every word that they spell wrong? I'd like to see how you write Dutch or > even Korean! I bet you can't even get one single sentence right. You > don't seem to see how lucky you are that your native language happens to > be the same as the one used on the web. You'd better show some respect > for everyone who speaks/writes multiple languages. If you WERE trying to write in English and be understood, would you rather that the same mistake went by with no comment, and no improvements occured, or would you like a witty post like the first one, every once in a while to help people communicate in a forum like this which just happened to end up being in English? That was a horribly long sentence...