Of course Rendition has been the native support for N1 and N2. I understand
that N3 will support Rendition and 3dfx. From postings here it seems that the
N2 3dfx patch does not look as good as the native Rendition graphics.
My question is if you have a Thriller 8mb PCI Rendition card with a 12 mb
Voodoo2 3dfx card matched with it.... which card should be used?
Of course...only people that have connections to Sierra/Papyrus will probably
be able to provide that answer prior to shipping but its been on my mind.
Either way I'll be prepared.
Andrew
San Diego
Well....the N2 patch doesn't look good because it was only a 1mb download or
so. And it was released as beta. There is no final version. The only way
to tell is when NASCAR 1999 comes out.
-Jim
>Of course Rendition has been the native support for N1 and N2. I understand
>that N3 will support Rendition and 3dfx. From postings here it seems that the
>N2 3dfx patch does not look as good as the native Rendition graphics.
>My question is if you have a Thriller 8mb PCI Rendition card with a 12 mb
>Voodoo2 3dfx card matched with it.... which card should be used?
>Of course...only people that have connections to Sierra/Papyrus will probably
>be able to provide that answer prior to shipping but its been on my mind.
>Either way I'll be prepared.
>Andrew
>San Diego
I have both Rendition and Voodoo2 cards in my machine, and the 3DFX
"patch" is MUCH smoother looking. The Rendition version isn't nearly as
nice looking to me, and I haven't run that version since the 3Dfx version
came out. Also, don't forget that the 3dfx patch is just a beta and when
NR99 comes out next month, the 3Dfx version will probably/hopefully
far out-shine the rendition version.
As soon as I find a decent AGP card (TNT?), I'm gonna dump the rendition
because it's no longer necessary in order to get decent graphics in N2.
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Hmm... I never realized that over-filtered, washed out, blurry textures
could make a game look better. Smoother yes, but that's not necessarily
a good thing. I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions however.
- Eric
>I have both Rendition and Voodoo2 cards in my machine, and the 3DFX
>"patch" is MUCH smoother looking. The Rendition version isn't nearly as
>nice looking to me...
?
>Hmm... I never realized that over-filtered, washed out, blurry textures
>could make a game look better. Smoother yes, but that's not necessarily
>a good thing. I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions however.
>- Eric
First off, I have both a Rendition V2200 and a 12MB Voodoo2 card. I
prefer the Voodoo2 for raw speed in some games, but in terms of image
quality the Rendition beats it plain and simple. I applaud 3Dfx for
improving the image quality with the Voodoo2, but it still has room to
get better. For N2 and GPL the speed difference in the two cards is
quite minimal (if anything the Renditon card is slightly faster), and
IMO the Rendition card looks much better (both in terms of color
saturation and texture quality). I've seen these sims running on quite
a number of machines, and on each and every occasion the Rendition
version looks better. There is a delicate balance between detail and
filtering, and while the 3Dfx cards are quite good at reducing the
dithering artifacts often seen on other cards, this comes at the price
of over filtering the textures resulting in (comparatively speaking)
soft edges and washed out colors. This is not just my opinion, but has
been stated in plenty of reviews (Boot magazine, hardly a 3Dfx basher,
comes to mind). I am by no means anti-3Dfx, I just realize that raw
speed is not the end all be all of 3D cards (just look at the Riva128).
If it was 3Dfx who had the superior image quality I'd be pointing out
the short comings of the Rendition cards, but this just happens not to
be the case.
- Eric
Hi Eric, i have noticed that you continually seem to knock the graphics
produced from the 3DFX card, in comparison with the Rendition card.
As you stated, that is your opinion, but i am beginning to think there
is more at stake here than just your opinion....
I am sure you are well aware that any one will stick up for the type of
card that they tend to use most of the time, but why be so vehement
towards the Voodoo card??
Over-filtered, washed out blurry textures, do not happen on my 3DFX
card. I have both a Rendition card and a 3DFX card in my computer and
your overly explicit descriptions of a Voodoo card do not occur on my
computer!
IMO and the opinions of two of my friends, the Voodoo card has a much
clearer perception and more vibrant colors than the Rendition.
I know what the quality of graphics on MY computer looks like, so
don't try telling me that the Rendition card looks better on MY
computer than the 3DFX card.
On your computer, it may look better, but try adding that amendment to
your next " let's knock 3DFX" type post, cause on MY computer it
doesn't....
Cheers,
Ron
Ok Eric, i guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this point.
I think whatever the person sitting in front of his/her monitor
personally feels is the best graphical option for them, is obviously
the best graphical option for them.....
No one can tell me, or you, what we think is the best quality in our
own perception of the picture we are looking at on our own monitor...
For me, the color purity, sharpness of vision and depth perception of
the 3dFX quality is better than the Rendition, where as for you, the
Rendition is the better of the two...
Either way, it boils down to personal preferences being the deciding
factor...
One thing we do agree on however, is the warez beta......
Cheers,
Ron
Of course not b/c our individual opinions of quality is quite subjective
while accuracy to the original source is not.
Kind of reminds me of the whole DTS vs. Dolby Digital debate...
- Eric
Male sure to compare properly though - you need to use a product with
native support for both (N2, GPL and Quake being the only ones that
spring to mind). Comparing other products will be comparing Glide and
D3D, not 3dFX and Rendition.
I have both (V2200 and Voodoo2) and find that the Voodoo2 is miles
better in games like Unreal and Motocross Madness, with the V2200
being better in N2 and GPL.
I also don't see the huge differences Eric describes, but there are
general differences which I would ascribe more to personal preference
than to one being better or worse.
Cheers!
John
Hello Eric,
I agree with you.
Mike Dunn
