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3DFX&monitor/Help

11 posts by 9 people · 19 Sep 1998 - 23 Sep 1998

Doug 19 Sep 1998#421131
I have another stupid question for anyone willing to help me. I am going to buy a 3DFX card and I want to know if I have to replace my old monitor(packard bell 1511sl). Also which card do you recomend(it's a birthday present so the cost is not that important). My system is a 200MMX, 64mbEDO ram, screamin3D rendition card. At some point down the line I will be getting a Pentium2 and would want to use the 3DFX in that system. All I really play is N2 and GPL(demo) and Nascar99 and N3 when they come out(cant wait). Also would I be better off getting a better rendition card or am I going to need both. I want the fastest and best graphics possible for these and future sims. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. You people on this newsgroup have always come thru for me. I dont know what I would do without you. Thanks again!! Doug D
Chris Cox 19 Sep 1998#421132
I would suggest a 12mb Voodoo2 card of some description. Despite the hype for TNT, G200, i740 etc, Voodoo2 is still the fastest card and performs very well on PII systems. You could add a another V2 at a later date - SLI is awesome and blows everything else away.
Quoted text (12 lines)>I have another stupid question for anyone willing to help me. I am going >to buy a 3DFX card and I want to know if I have to replace my old >monitor(packard bell 1511sl). Also which card do you recomend(it's a >birthday present so the cost is not that important). My system is a >200MMX, 64mbEDO ram, screamin3D rendition card. At some point down the >line I will be getting a Pentium2 and would want to use the 3DFX in that >system. All I really play is N2 and GPL(demo) and Nascar99 and N3 when >they come out(cant wait). Also would I be better off getting a better >rendition card or am I going to need both. I want the fastest and best >graphics possible for these and future sims. Thanks in advance for any >help you can offer. You people on this newsgroup have always come thru >for me. I dont know what I would do without you. Thanks again!! Doug D
> I would suggest a 12mb Voodoo2 card of some description. > Despite the hype for TNT, G200, i740 etc, Voodoo2 is still the fastest card > and performs very well on PII systems. You could add a another V2 at a later > date - SLI is awesome and blows everything else away. This is not for much longer the valid argument for V2, it's just the great software support, that is THE argument to buy one (or two), esp. if you're interested in sims. l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:14:06 +0100, "Chris Cox" >I would suggest a 12mb Voodoo2 card of some description. >Despite the hype for TNT, G200, i740 etc, Voodoo2 is still the fastest card >and performs very well on PII systems. You could add a another V2 at a later >date - SLI is awesome and blows everything else away. The guy said quite clearly that all he plays is N2 and GPL, and adding NASCAR99 and N3 later on. Buying a V2 would be bad and somewhat wasting his money, and buying TWO of them would be an utter waste of money. His best bet is a relatively cheap 8Mb AGP Hercules Thriller 3D, and with a TV out he can persuade himself he needs a 100" projection TV and race Talladega in life size :-) Cheers! John
Ken Beard 21 Sep 1998#421416
>> I would suggest a 12mb Voodoo2 card of some description. >> Despite the hype for TNT, G200, i740 etc, Voodoo2 is still the fastest card >> and performs very well on PII systems. You could add a another V2 at a later
Quoted text (7 lines)>> date - SLI is awesome and blows everything else away. >This is not for much longer the valid argument for V2, it's just the >great >software support, that is THE argument to buy one (or two), esp. if >you're >interested in sims.
Yeah, some of them are catching up and surpassing in speed and visual quality, but there are still too many sims that are Voodoo *ONLY* to not have one. Great thing is, you can run it along with any of these other cards. I may get a TNT or something down the road to replace the Riva 128 now alongside the V2, but I'll still have the V2 because of the support. I do always love when a friend who raves about his i740 or Riva 128 being so fast for the $99 they paid, and they rag on me since I spent $300 for one of the first batch of V2's. Then I fire up Unreal and watch them drool over it <g>, and ask can they play it like that on THEIR card. It is SO nice not having to worry about game support, and I'm not really worried about some of the new cards being 10% faster, I'm not a framerate junkie. Although I might get a bit jealous if any of them get a Riva TNT, they sound pretty sweet. But won't do squat for N2 or GPL, nyah nyah. But, it should be said, most of these other cards are running newer D3D drivers than the V2 - I have a sneaky feeling that the DX 6 Voodoo 2 drivers (which are supposed to utilize features not used so far, like the second texture unit) will level things up a good bit. At least I hope that's why we're waiting so long on them <g> Ken
>I believe he also stated it was a present and price was no option. The voodoo2 >is the best buy for performance. Not when the only games you will play are N2 and GPL. The 3dFX is slower and lesser quality in both, and more expensive. Your definition of "best buy" needs some work. Even if it's a present it still has to fit your needs. Cheers! John
Zonky 21 Sep 1998#421418
Quoted text (13 lines)>Path: >>I believe he also stated it was a present and price was no option. The voodoo2 >>is the best buy for performance. >Not when the only games you will play are N2 and GPL. The 3dFX is >slower and lesser quality in both, and more expensive. Your definition >of "best buy" needs some work. Even if it's a present it still has to >fit your needs. >Cheers! >John
But if you ever in your life intend to use a sim or otherwise developed by someone other than Papy i.e D3D or opengl...... (or glide for that matter), Then the rendition cards are a waste of time and money. Z.
% >I believe he also stated it was a present and price was no option. The voodoo2 % >is the best buy for performance. % Not when the only games you will play are N2 and GPL. The 3dFX is % slower and lesser quality in both, and more expensive. Your definition % of "best buy" needs some work. Even if it's a present it still has to % fit your needs. I can't speak for the newer Rendition cards (still using the original one), but for me, the 3dFX out performs the Rendition card in the GPL demo (while the "richness" of the display can be argued), the frame rate can not. If one is only adding one card to their system, I would still argue going for the 3dFX, hold onto the Screamin' 3d for N2 and use the V2 for GPL. But I also still play ICRII and would rather not deal with the incompatiabilities of the new Rendition cards vs. the original ones. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ymenard 21 Sep 1998#421420
Zonker wrote But as I recall... Rendition cards are OpenGL-capable and also D3D-compatible. It's just glide-accelerated application that won't run on a Rendition card. But since a Rendition card is a 2d/3d combo, if you really are ***ed by a sim that requires a Voodoo-based card, there is no problem adding it to your Rendition card. I mean... Voodoo1 cards a pretty cheap. - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Mmmmmm, but the original poster stated he was insterested only in N2 and GPL, and I prefaced my message by saying that. I personally would prefer a 3dFX because I enjoy other products, but if I liked only GPL and/or N2 I'd buy a Rendition, enjoy the better visuals and pocket the saved cash. Cheers! John
Paul Jone 23 Sep 1998#421791
V2 is great if you have a PII but one a PI or Pro you don't really get the benefit. Paul

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