wheel/pedals for car sims AND flight sim?

My passion is flight simming, but just tried a car game in Playstation (I think it was Grand Tourismo) and now I really want to get car simms on my PC. My current setup is a joystick and home made pedals that work in fsim-only mode. The only wheel/pedal I know that suits both types are CH Pro. Are they any good with car simms? I'm especially interested in F1RS and the upcoming Colin McRay. At the local store I was told that there are some new wheels and pedals coming from other manufacturers. Is there any info on those and are there any that can be used with both games. For someone not familiar with fsims the main difference is that the wheel must have back/forward motion, gas (throttle) is operated by hand and is not returned to a fixed position by a spring and the pedals must be joined to control the rudder (if you press one forward, the other comes backwards). In addition to back/forward motion of pedals they also independently tilt. This is used for controlling the breaks (pressing both) or turning (pressing only one). -- Mikko Harjula SQ Consulting Oy | If you email me from a tel. ?3-3165206 33710 Tampere | use subject "I AM NOT SPAM" fax ?3-3165201 FINLAND |

HI, I run a pair of CH rudder pedals, and they work equally well with either my Thrustmaster GP1 wheel and my Saitek stick and throttle combo. It's a real pain in the ass to switch between the stick and the wheel, but the pedals are great for either flying or driving. However, I had to give up the back and forth motion of my old TM RCS, which were more realistic pedals. The swtich on the CH pedals does not provide this. But if you want to drive as much as you fly, you have to compromise, I guess. Another alternative would be to just get a TM GP1 wheel, which has a pair of paddles by your fingertips that can be used for throttle and brake functions. So you either give up realistic rudder action, or realistic throttle and brakes. I'd be interested if you hear of a better solution. L.S.

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>My passion is flight simming, but just tried a car game in Playstation >(I think it was Grand Tourismo) and now I really want to get car simms >on my PC. My current setup is a joystick and home made pedals that >work in fsim-only mode. The only wheel/pedal I know that suits both >types are CH Pro. Are they any good with car simms? I'm especially >interested in F1RS and the upcoming Colin McRay. >At the local store I was told that there are some new wheels and >pedals coming from other manufacturers. Is there any info on those >and are there any that can be used with both games. >For someone not familiar with fsims the main difference is that the >wheel must have back/forward motion, gas (throttle) is operated by >hand and is not returned to a fixed position by a spring and the >pedals must be joined to control the rudder (if you press one forward, >the other comes backwards). In addition to back/forward motion of >pedals they also independently tilt. This is used for controlling the >breaks (pressing both) or turning (pressing only one). >-- >Mikko Harjula SQ Consulting Oy | If you email me from a

please >tel. ?3-3165206 33710 Tampere | use subject "I AM NOT SPAM" >fax ?3-3165201 FINLAND |

I use my T2 pedals with my flight sims (heavy on the Air Warrior thank you). Had to get a Gamecard to get everything workin' right though. Gritz

Yes, check out The Pits (http://www.theuspits.com). On the 'Other Sims' page, I review the Suncom GForce Pro yoke. I use this with my F1 pedals and it works great. I don't really do flight sims any more, but the yoke was developed for flight sims, but doubles as an excellent wheel for driving sims... I've used it for 4 years now, and won tons of races with it. Plus, it's much less expensive than most of the driving wheels out on the market. I don't mention it in the review, but it does have a throttle for flight sims that 'holds position', and is not spring loaded. Cheers! -- ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/