N2 Rendition @ 5fps - Help!

System Specs: PII 266, 64mb ram, Intergraph Intense 3D Rendition card, Canopus Pure 3D Voodoo2, Xitel Storm VX PCI soundcard/joystick port, Thrustmaster Nascar Pro steering wheel - All hardware is running most recent drivers as downloaded from each companies web sites. N2 Rendition with Grand National Expansion Pack installed. All details set on full, except for grass/asphalt. 10 cars ahead, 2 behind. Tried Running Rendition version through Win95 and booting to DOS, as well as 3DFX version. Either way, the game runs extremely slow on any given track. On some ovals, like Gateway, it is a complete slideshow and undrivable all the way around the track. On road courses it is terrible at start/finish line, and in front of stands, but speeds up when there is no traffic. I have re-installed twice. The strangest thing is that Rendition Indycar 2 screams along at full detail with a full field of cars, no problem. Rendition GPL demo is fast as well. Even Rendition SODA plays faster than N2 is currently. Quake 2, Unreal, Sin demo, NCAA 99, Jedi Knight, all play great on this same setup. Even more interesting is that Nascar 2 is very playable on my P166, 32mb ram, Intergraph Rendtion card with the same detail settings. That machine has a soundblaster 16 and I use a old T2 for wheel. It just doesn't make sense. I am sure I have setup something wrong but I have no idea what it could be. I have had N2 installed on the P166 machine since the day it was released(almost 2 years ago), and have not encountered any of these problems. I even tried just copying over the exact N2 directory from the P166 machine, to the PII 266, and still had the same problems. The PII is not overclocked and is an original 266(not Celeron). Any help, or insight would be greatly appreciated. Don Chapman

I have a P200 with a V2100 DSII. I can run through win95 with more cars and all detail and no slowdown..So we should be able to do something for you. First make sure you are running the dma version of NCR2. It "IS" faster. Also choose the 4 bit textures. so if your are in dos type: Renddma -4 alternately edit the renddma.bat file to include the above. I use a shortcut to go to N2 rather than the menu choices from the start button. Also go to the Sierra site and download their 3dfx patch. It probably won't look as nice as the Rendition verison but should be a ***y, tiny bit faster. Goodluck. check back and let us know how it goes. dave henrie >System Specs: >PII 266, 64mb ram, Intergraph Intense 3D Rendition card, Canopus Pure 3D >Voodoo2, Xitel Storm VX PCI soundcard/joystick port, Thrustmaster Nascar Pro >steering wheel - All hardware is running most recent drivers as downloaded >from each companies web sites. >N2 Rendition with Grand National Expansion Pack installed. >All details set on full, except for grass/asphalt. >10 cars ahead, 2 behind. >Tried Running Rendition version through Win95 and booting to DOS, as well as >3DFX version. >Either way, the game runs extremely slow on any given track. On some ovals, >like Gateway, it is a complete slideshow and undrivable all the way around >the track. On road courses it is terrible at start/finish line, and in front >of stands, but speeds up when there is no traffic. I have re-installed >twice. The strangest thing is that Rendition Indycar 2 screams along at full >detail with a full field of cars, no problem. Rendition GPL demo is fast as >well. Even Rendition SODA plays faster than N2 is currently. >Quake 2, Unreal, Sin demo, NCAA 99, Jedi Knight, all play great on this same

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>setup. Even more interesting is that Nascar 2 is very playable on my P166, >32mb ram, Intergraph Rendtion card with the same detail settings. That >machine has a soundblaster 16 and I use a old T2 for wheel. It just doesn't >make sense. I am sure I have setup something wrong but I have no idea what >it could be. I have had N2 installed on the P166 machine since the day it >was released(almost 2 years ago), and have not encountered any of these >problems. I even tried just copying over the exact N2 directory from the >P166 machine, to the PII 266, and still had the same problems. The PII is >not overclocked and is an original 266(not Celeron). Any help, or insight >would be greatly appreciated. >Don Chapman

Thanks to everyone that provided help regarding the -4 -dma parameter settings, that did the trick! I don't know how I missed it in the readme file. Upon further review, I actually discovered that I had created a shortcut with those parameters, but it was locking up every time I tried to run it. It was a "boot to dos" shortcut that was passing my old sound card parameters. Once I changed it back to using the current MD-DOS configuration, it worked great. Thanks again. Don Chapman

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> I have a P200 with a V2100 DSII. I can run through win95 with more cars >and all detail and >no slowdown..So we should be able to do something for you. > First make sure you are running the dma version of NCR2. It "IS" faster. >Also choose the 4 bit >textures. so if your are in dos type: >Renddma -4 > alternately edit the renddma.bat file to include the above. I use a >shortcut to go to N2 rather than the >menu choices from the start button. > Also go to the Sierra site and download their 3dfx patch. It probably >won't look as nice as the >Rendition verison but should be a ***y, tiny bit faster. Goodluck.

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>back and let us know >how it goes. >dave henrie >>System Specs: >>PII 266, 64mb ram, Intergraph Intense 3D Rendition card, Canopus Pure 3D >>Voodoo2, Xitel Storm VX PCI soundcard/joystick port, Thrustmaster Nascar >Pro >>steering wheel - All hardware is running most recent drivers as downloaded >>from each companies web sites. >>N2 Rendition with Grand National Expansion Pack installed. >>All details set on full, except for grass/asphalt. >>10 cars ahead, 2 behind. >>Tried Running Rendition version through Win95 and booting to DOS, as well >as >>3DFX version. >>Either way, the game runs extremely slow on any given track. On some

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>>like Gateway, it is a complete slideshow and undrivable all the way around >>the track. On road courses it is terrible at start/finish line, and in >front >>of stands, but speeds up when there is no traffic. I have re-installed >>twice. The strangest thing is that Rendition Indycar 2 screams along at >full >>detail with a full field of cars, no problem. Rendition GPL demo is fast

as >>well. Even Rendition SODA plays faster than N2 is currently. >>Quake 2, Unreal, Sin demo, NCAA 99, Jedi Knight, all play great on this >same >>setup. Even more interesting is that Nascar 2 is very playable on my P166, >>32mb ram, Intergraph Rendtion card with the same detail settings. That >>machine has a soundblaster 16 and I use a old T2 for wheel. It just doesn't

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>>make sense. I am sure I have setup something wrong but I have no idea what >>it could be. I have had N2 installed on the P166 machine since the day it >>was released(almost 2 years ago), and have not encountered any of these >>problems. I even tried just copying over the exact N2 directory from the >>P166 machine, to the PII 266, and still had the same problems. The PII is >>not overclocked and is an original 266(not Celeron). Any help, or insight >>would be greatly appreciated. >>Don Chapman