GPL: Warez etiquette?

Just wondering If people here want GPL information that has been acquired from the warez version, or should we just shut up and wait for it to come out? Todd.

any info is appreciated, unfortunately some of us who have already ordered gpl can't find a warez site so we are in the cold..

> Just wondering If people here want GPL information that has been acquired > from the warez version, or should we just shut up and wait for it to come > out? I consider the WAREZ version a "Preview" edition. It may even have been leaked by a Papy employee...I'm not suggesting that, but who knows? I have no m***issues with using this version, as I will be buying the game the day it arrives in stores...I've had a copy reserved for some time now. I have a few questions about this Beta... * How old is it? It's version 0.2.0.0. * I've had a couple of weird things happen in multiplay..where my steering wheel suddenly goes full left lock..and a couple of times I've had the equivalent of fuel starvation for 10 seconds or so. Never saw this in the demo or single player. * Is Alt-F to be believed? I have a P2-300 with 4 meg V2200 and 3Dfx Voodoo. Framerates are *identical* with either card. FPS runs 33-36, never in the 20's, even with full field of AI. * Number of AI on the track seems to make no difference in FPS. I've seen mention of having to keep the number of AI down to optimize performance, but I don't seem to have a problem with max AI. * Any way of choosing your car number? * Is it best (like in ICR2) to have tire temps even across the tire? -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Personally, I consider it piracy. Yes, while the version there now is probably a "preview" version, it won't be long before the final release finds it's way there, and some folks will be clamoring to get their "free" copy. I would never support this. Just mho -- Don Burnette Palmetto Racing Dburn on Ten AOLL Iroc Series Administrator http://pages.southtech.net/palmetto/aoll.htm >> Just wondering If people here want GPL information that has been acquired >> from the warez version, or should we just shut up and wait for it to come >> out? >I consider the WAREZ version a "Preview" edition. It may even have been >leaked by a Papy employee...I'm not suggesting that, but who knows? I >have no m***issues with using this version, as I will be buying the >game the day it arrives in stores...I've had a copy reserved for some >time now.

> * Is Alt-F to be believed? I have a P2-300 with 4 meg V2200 and > 3Dfx Voodoo. Framerates are *identical* with either card. FPS > runs 33-36, never in the 20's, even with full field of AI. I don't know how GPL is coded, but early versions of the game WarBirds were locked to a maximum frame rate of 33 fps. If you had hardware fast enough to get 33, no upgrades would make it go faster. I suspect you're seeing something similar at work here. Trips

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> > Personally, I consider it piracy. Yes, while the version there now is > > probably a "preview" version, it won't be long before the final > release > > finds it's way there, and some folks will be clamoring to get their > "free" > > copy. I would never support this. > > Just mho > I couldn't agree more Don..... > It's ok to say, "But i am going to buy the full release", that's like > stealing the neighbours car and using it untill you go and buy one of > your own!! > How would your neighbour feel?

nope. gotta disagree here. there is potential for damage in borrowing your neighbor's car and the car will also experience some wear and tear while using it that cannot be recovered. a more accurate analogy is sneaking downstairs at christmastime and peeking at your gifts. it is up to each individual to decide whether or not sierra/papyrus is going to realize revenue from GPL. here are the facts: a beta version of GPL is available RIGHT NOW for the taking. this, unto itself, is not costing sierra/papyrus any lost dollars. sure, it will after when the full version is made available for retail purchase.here is how i have rationalized it for myself: let's say that your local computer software store has a system set up featuring a pre-release version of GPL as a form of advertising. everything is available, but it is not a completely "finished" product. are you seriously telling me that you would not take a stab at it? you might not - because i would be in your way until the store closed for the evening! whether or not you have decided that the version available is good or evil based upon piracy is nothing more than semantics. in my heart of hearts, i know that i will buy the complete product when finally made available to me (as evidenced by the 20-30 product boxes of sierra's stacked in my closet). so what's is the cost of my actions? is anything or anyone actually wronged by this? the answer is NO. i have not contributed to the coffers of the pirates nor have i cost the producers of GPL any lost revenues. i f i was to purchase a pirated version or simply keep the warez version, THEN, and only then, would i be guilty of any infraction resulting in lost monies. or something like that. ...i dunno. i heard that doctorb has called in sick every day this month so far... ; - ) a piece of birthday cake snuck before it is served is just as good, if not better, than waiting for it. j

The version available at the moment is Beta. Have no fear....it is *NOT* the final version :o) > any info is appreciated, unfortunately some of us who have already ordered gpl > can't find a warez site so we are in the cold.. -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

I couldn't agree more Don..... It's ok to say, "But i am going to buy the full release", that's like stealing the neighbours car and using it untill you go and buy one of your own!! How would your neighbour feel? IMO no other sim racer world wide has waited more for the release of GPL more than me, and i intend to enjoy the full experience of getting the software home, opening the box, reading the manual, (for at least 5 seconds), and finally running GPL the way it was meant to be run. After waiting for GPL to be released as long as i have waited, i don't want to have the Beta version take the anticipation off the retail version for me! While these 'other' versions are being downloaded, i can only think of the lost enjoyment factor these people will miss out on when the retail version is released. Cheers, Ron

> Personally, I consider it piracy. Yes, while the version there now is > probably a "preview" version, it won't be long before the final release > finds it's way there, and some folks will be clamoring to get their "free" > copy. I would never support this. > Just mho I'm not trying to defend the posters, distributors, or users of warez. Just for *me*, this leaked beta equates to a "preview" release. I will be buying GPL when it's released...and it's a shame that some people won't. And there isn't a damn thing I can do about it. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

You better believe it!! doktorB http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl >> IMO no other sim racer world wide has waited more for the release of >> GPL more than me, >...i dunno. i heard that doctorb has called in sick every day this month so >far... ; - )

I thinks that all the complainers out there are doing so because they've spent most of last week since word first escaped that a 'near-completion' version of GPL was out and about, and they can't find out where to get it. Well I'm one Happy-Hippo who has found the site, spent about 3.5 Hours and $6-00 downloading it, and now powering through Nurburgring goin' arse up at each corner. Is it wrong? Maybe, Maybe not. Depends on whether you found the site or not, or so it seems... Any way like most successful downloaders I have an order number with Papyrus who will send me my nice finished full product as soon as it ships. The version I have is not totally finished, and there are still quite a few bugs to get rid of, but it'll do for now. Happy Hunting! Happy G

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