GPL for Mac?

Will GPL be available for the Mac? Their selling lots of iMacs.

Maybe Papyrus will make it for the clothes iron that Apple stole the iMac design from too. Steve

Unfortunately for Mac-users no. Papyrus has killed-off all future Mac ports. I don't think you'll be able to use an PC-emulator for this, as GPL is Win95 and my knowledge of what's allowable from PC to Mac is a bit thin (check the Mac-forums about Win95-to-Mac use). Cheers! Marc > Will GPL be available for the Mac? > Their selling lots of iMacs. -- Marc J. Nelson The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com Extinct Track Archive - http://www.simproject.com/eta/index.html

> Will GPL be available for the Mac? > Their selling lots of iMacs. Sorry Robo, Papy has given up on Mac ports for any future sim, it's not worth their time for the limited sales to Mac owners. I hate to say it, but the iMac would probably not run GPL anyway, no hardware acceleration and rather slow to run in software mode. Best of luck, you can still find some of the older Papy sims of course. All the best, Mike -- Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works Computer/Audio/Video Convergence "from Creative minds spring Creative solutions." http://www.creativemedia-works.com Member, International Webmasters Association http://iwanet.org

The shape and colours of the iMac were designed by an Aussie! (I really am in two minds about telling you this! :o)) > Maybe Papyrus will make it for the clothes iron that Apple stole the iMac > design from too. -- Regards, Bruce. ----------

Hate to break it to ya Bruce but ZDTV showed the "European clothes iron" which is the "exact" model for the iMac, it has the same colors, same translucent plastic, same exact knob design. But this shouldn't surprise anyone because Apple stole the original Lisa design from Xerox PARC. The Mac faithful will just have to live with the fact that their new idol is a rip-off of a domestic appliance. Steve

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>The shape and colours of the iMac were designed by an Aussie! >(I really am in two minds about telling you this! :o)) >> Maybe Papyrus will make it for the clothes iron that Apple stole the iMac >> design from too. >-- >Regards, >Bruce. >----------

PCers, > But this shouldn't surprise anyone because Apple stole the >original Lisa design from Xerox PARC. Sorry, that's an urban legend. Apple PAID for the things they adopted from Xerox. Unlike M$ which either steals or simply swallows their enimies. Have you _seen_ the original Xerox star? Have you ever _used_ a Lisa? No? Then shut up. But back to the original question: There is/was a petition where you could vote for more racing sims on the mac (http://www.macracing.simplenet.com). About 1000 or so votes came in, but Papy still refused. On the other hand, Thrustmaster got annoyed by so much mail (every 100 votes created one 8^). You have to live with what's there: ICR2 and NASCAR. If apple sells more items than it has in the past, Papy will no doubt consider porting GPL because it should be an easy task. Market share is everything. It would be interesting how GPL performs on a average 300MHz G3 and 3dfx card under a PC emulator. Since most of the work is done be the graphics card, the emulation slowdown factor would be less important. Herwig -- ECCE TERRAM GmbH Dr. Herwig Henseler Heinrichstrasse 18d Tel. 0441 / 500 12-0 26131 Oldenburg Fax. 0441 / 500 12-29

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>> Will GPL be available for the Mac? >> Their selling lots of iMacs. >Sorry Robo, > Papy has given up on Mac ports for any future sim, it's not worth >their time for the limited sales to Mac owners. I hate to say it, but >the iMac would probably not run GPL anyway, no hardware acceleration and >rather slow to run in software mode. Best of luck, you can still find >some of the older Papy sims of course. All the best, Mike

Hmm, how about a linux port? Hardware acceleration, superior networking performance, rock-stable, no driver conflicts ***ing up your system beyond recognition, and an estimated 10 million user base until Xmas 1998, among them many sim fans... I'd jump for a Linux port right away. Uwe (hoping for a native Linux GPL II ;-) -- Spam-proof e-mail: Uwe Schuerkamp <hoover at telemedia . de> http://www.telemedia.de/~hoover ////// Phone: +49-5241-80-10-66 Best of Scottish Folk: http://home.pages.de/~nsg >>> Blue Ribbon Campaign: Support Free Speech on the Internet <<<

I'm a bit of a newbie to Linux, but I'll vouch for the stability and great networking support. It also happens to run on the same architecture as Win95/98, which means at minimum a new user interface is required and perhaps a few other tweaks? -------------------------------------------------- "That's not car control, that's crisis management"

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> >> Will GPL be available for the Mac? > >> Their selling lots of iMacs. > >Sorry Robo, > > Papy has given up on Mac ports for any future sim, it's not worth > >their time for the limited sales to Mac owners. I hate to say it, but > >the iMac would probably not run GPL anyway, no hardware acceleration and > >rather slow to run in software mode. Best of luck, you can still find > >some of the older Papy sims of course. All the best, Mike

One of the guys at MacRacing tried to run GPL on a 604e/200 in emulation using his 3Dfx card and he said with all graphics off he was getting around 1 frame every 5 seconds (that's right, 0.2 fps). Maybe a G3 300+ would be a little different, but I doubt it. So it's ICR2 and N1 from Papy only. But, hopefully if iMac sales are good they will support the PPC Mac's again, this time using 3Dfx. Jon

How are IMac sales going to help things? It's slow by today's *** standards, has an ATI RageIIc chip soldered into the motherboard, and no expansion slots to add a 3Dfx or any other 3D card. While the IMac may look kinda cool, it's certainly not going to convince companies to start making Mac ports of games. - Eric

At the risk of starting another rant, Apple has no one to blame but themselves. Since The Beginning Of Computers, Apple has always implied a sense of superiority over PCs, that their stuff is somehow more "intellectual." For example the closed architecture, a perfect case of "only we are worthy of knowing the insides of the Anointed Machine." By keeping their system in-house, the open market simply continued on with the machine which inspired innovation and low pricing, the PC. FWIW, I've used both PCs and Macs, so I hold no grudges either way, it's simply a matter of intelligent marketing. Kurt

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> How are IMac sales going to help things? It's slow by today's *** > standards, has an ATI RageIIc chip soldered into the motherboard, and no > expansion slots to add a 3Dfx or any other 3D card. While the IMac may > look kinda cool, it's certainly not going to convince companies to start > making Mac ports of games. > - Eric > >But, hopefully if iMac sales are good they > >will support the PPC Mac's again, this time using 3Dfx.

Hear, hear!

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> How are IMac sales going to help things? It's slow by today's *** > standards, has an ATI RageIIc chip soldered into the motherboard, and no > expansion slots to add a 3Dfx or any other 3D card. While the IMac may > look kinda cool, it's certainly not going to convince companies to start > making Mac ports of games. > - Eric

-- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

: you sound surprised that the game wont be made for the mac : why?? why should they make a game that like 10 mac users will buy : how many mac users are there?