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Sidewinder FF Pro question

11 posts by 5 people · 07 Sep 1998 - 26 Sep 1998

Hi! I have a MS SW FF Pro which I've been very happy with...until now... I just bought myself another ordinary analog device (a wheel), and I can't get it to work unless a first uninstall the software for the Sidewinder stick. I have the Sidewinder software installed, and then choose to add another device. After doing that, it says that the newly added device (the wheel) isn't connected though it is! I then uninstall the Sidewinder software, and then all of a sudden after a reboot done by the uninstall program - the wheel works just fine?!?! The wheel is a Thrustmaster Nascar Pro, and when I've been trying to get it to work, I have installed it as a two-axis - four button joystick. With that said, it is not the software for the wheel that is the problem, since I use Windows's own stuff for game devices. I have tried to install first the Sidewinder with it's software, and then the wheel. That didn't work. The Sidewinder keeps working just fine, but the wheel is reported as not connected though it is. Then I tried just the opposite - first I installed the wheel, then the Sidewinder and it's software. Before I installed the Sidewinder software, the wheel worked just fine, and then after installing the Sidewinder software, the entry for the wheel device was gone?!?! and after adding it again, I got the same result - not connected So now to my question - if you use a MS Sidewinder FF Pro, does that mean that you won't be able to use any other *** devices on your system? Please tell me it isn't like that, because I want them both :)! Thanks in advance! -- If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in my address. Best regards, Richard
SG 07 Sep 1998#419492
Richard, You should be able to run both with no problem, but not listing both in your settings. If you have the SideWinder attached you must remove it first, then close the Window. Open the control applet again and add the ThrustMaster. You will have to do this for each device that you want to use. -- SG NOTE: When posting a message, try to give as much information about your problem and details about your machine. If you find your answer, please be kind enough to post back the solution.
Quoted text (10 lines)>On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:22:24 +0200, >>So now to my question - if you use a MS Sidewinder FF Pro, does that mean >>that you won't be able to use any other *** devices on your system? >You can only have one device configured at a time. >Remove one, then add the other. Repeat the procedure >to change controllers..
But why is it then that you can add as many game devices as you like in the list for game controllers in Windows when it obviously doesn't work? And if you choose the Advanced tab, you can fool around with ID's. What are those ID's for? I don't think it makes sense if you only can use one controller at a time, and whenever you want to use another one, you must first uninstall the first one and then add the second. And then after that do the same thing in the reverse direction. Doesn't really fit in modern time... Best regards, Richard
OK. I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because when I add any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it never says 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with it in any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message saying that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's connected. I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an OS that hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say will give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of the 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill... -- If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in my address. Best regards, Richard SG skrev i meddelandet ...
It will work.I slaso have the FF microsoft joystick and an analog wheel.It works ok the way it was described in the earlier posts.It makes no sense ,but i think it is because uncle Bill doen't like games. Rafael
Quoted text (12 lines)> OK. > I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because when I add > any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it never says > 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with it in > any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message saying > that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's connected. > I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an OS that > hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say will > give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of the > 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill...
You switch off your PC to swap controllers? Just say NO! :) I have a similar setup, and got pretty disgusted with the whole mess, too. Since the GPL demo came out, I haven't found a desire to switch over to the SWFF Pro. Michael.
Quoted text (70 lines)> It works for me now :)! > I found out that all you have to do is using the ID's under the Advanced > tab. The device you want 'active' should have device ID 1. Then you just > turn your PC off, switch to the other device by plugging it in physically, > turn on your computer again...and voila :)! > Thanks to everyone that participated in the discussion! > -- > If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in > my address. > Best regards, > Richard > Richard & Pernilla skrev i meddelandet > >You have the same setup as me, and you say it works...? I'm so happy :)! > >Could you please describe again to me exactly how you installed your > >devices, what drivers you use for them, and what you have to do to make it > >work? > >Thanks in advance > >-- > >If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in > >my address. > >Best regards, > >Richard > >>It will work.I slaso have the FF microsoft joystick and an analog wheel.It > >works > >>ok the way it was described in the earlier posts.It makes no sense ,but i > >think > >>it is because uncle Bill doen't like games. > >>Rafael > >>> OK. > >>> I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because when I > >add > >>> any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it never > >says > >>> 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with it > in > >>> any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message > >saying > >>> that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's > connected. > >>> I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an OS > >that > >>> hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say > will > >>> give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of > the > >>> 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill...
You have the same setup as me, and you say it works...? I'm so happy :)! Could you please describe again to me exactly how you installed your devices, what drivers you use for them, and what you have to do to make it work? Thanks in advance -- If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in my address. Best regards, Richard >It will work.I slaso have the FF microsoft joystick and an analog wheel.It works >ok the way it was described in the earlier posts.It makes no sense ,but i think >it is because uncle Bill doen't like games. >Rafael >> OK. >> I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because when I add >> any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it never says >> 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with it in >> any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message saying >> that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's connected. >> I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an OS that >> hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say will >> give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of the >> 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill...
It works for me now :)! I found out that all you have to do is using the ID's under the Advanced tab. The device you want 'active' should have device ID 1. Then you just turn your PC off, switch to the other device by plugging it in physically, turn on your computer again...and voila :)! Thanks to everyone that participated in the discussion! -- If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in my address. Best regards, Richard Richard & Pernilla skrev i meddelandet >You have the same setup as me, and you say it works...? I'm so happy :)! >Could you please describe again to me exactly how you installed your >devices, what drivers you use for them, and what you have to do to make it >work? >Thanks in advance >-- >If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in >my address. >Best regards, >Richard >>It will work.I slaso have the FF microsoft joystick and an analog wheel.It >works >>ok the way it was described in the earlier posts.It makes no sense ,but i >think >>it is because uncle Bill doen't like games. >>Rafael >>> OK. >>> I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because when I >add >>> any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it never >says >>> 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with it in >>> any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message >saying >>> that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's connected. >>> I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an OS >that >>> hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say will >>> give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of the >>> 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill...
:) Yes, actually I do turn my PC off when I swap controllers. I always thought that you should, and that what they say in all documentation. But maybe it's time to be a rebel :)! -- If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in my address. Best regards, Richard >You switch off your PC to swap controllers? Just say NO! :) >I have a similar setup, and got pretty disgusted with the whole mess, >too. Since the GPL demo came out, I haven't found a desire to switch >over to the SWFF Pro. >Michael. >> It works for me now :)! >> I found out that all you have to do is using the ID's under the Advanced >> tab. The device you want 'active' should have device ID 1. Then you just >> turn your PC off, switch to the other device by plugging it in physically, >> turn on your computer again...and voila :)! >> Thanks to everyone that participated in the discussion! >> -- >> If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in >> my address. >> Best regards, >> Richard >> Richard & Pernilla skrev i meddelandet >> >You have the same setup as me, and you say it works...? I'm so happy :)! >> >Could you please describe again to me exactly how you installed your >> >devices, what drivers you use for them, and what you have to do to make it >> >work? >> >Thanks in advance >> >-- >> >If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet in >> >my address. >> >Best regards, >> >Richard >> >Rafael Medeiros skrev i meddelandet wheel.It >> >works >> >>ok the way it was described in the earlier posts.It makes no sense ,but i >> >think >> >>it is because uncle Bill doen't like games. >> >>Rafael >> >>> OK. >> >>> I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because when I >> >add >> >>> any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it never >> >says >> >>> 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with it >> in >> >>> any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message >> >saying >> >>> that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's >> connected. >> >>> I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an OS >> >that >> >>> hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say >> will >> >>> give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of >> the >> >>> 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill...
Oh, yeah. They do say so, and probably with good reason. I haven't managed to short mine out, yet, but you shouldn't take my bad advice. The only devices that should be swapped "hot" are USB and RS232 devices. Michael.
Quoted text (98 lines)> Yes, actually I do turn my PC off when I swap controllers. I always thought > that you should, and that what they say in all documentation. > But maybe it's time to be a rebel :)! > >You switch off your PC to swap controllers? Just say NO! :) > >I have a similar setup, and got pretty disgusted with the whole mess, > >too. Since the GPL demo came out, I haven't found a desire to switch > >over to the SWFF Pro. > >Michael. > >> It works for me now :)! > >> I found out that all you have to do is using the ID's under the Advanced > >> tab. The device you want 'active' should have device ID 1. Then you just > >> turn your PC off, switch to the other device by plugging it in > physically, > >> turn on your computer again...and voila :)! > >> Thanks to everyone that participated in the discussion! > >> -- > >> If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet > in > >> my address. > >> Best regards, > >> Richard > >> Richard & Pernilla skrev i meddelandet > >> >You have the same setup as me, and you say it works...? I'm so happy :)! > >> >Could you please describe again to me exactly how you installed your > >> >devices, what drivers you use for them, and what you have to do to make > it > >> >work? > >> >Thanks in advance > >> >-- > >> >If you want to reply to me in person, please replace nospam with swipnet > in > >> >my address. > >> >Best regards, > >> >Richard > >> >Rafael Medeiros skrev i meddelandet > >> >>It will work.I slaso have the FF microsoft joystick and an analog > wheel.It > >> >works > >> >>ok the way it was described in the earlier posts.It makes no sense ,but > i > >> >think > >> >>it is because uncle Bill doen't like games. > >> >>Rafael > >> >>> OK. > >> >>> I'll try this out. But I'm doubtful whether it will work, because > when I > >> >add > >> >>> any device when the software for the Sidewinder is installed, it > never > >> >says > >> >>> 'OK' in the status for the device. And if I try to communicate with > it > >> in > >> >>> any way, for example by trying to calibrate it, I only get a message > >> >saying > >> >>> that the device isn't working, and that I should check if it's > >> connected. > >> >>> I think it's nuts that you should have these kind of problems in an > OS > >> >that > >> >>> hasn't been out for more that a couple of months, and an OS they say > >> will > >> >>> give you more joy and fun with your computer, a pure multimedia OS of > >> the > >> >>> 90'th...oh yeah, that was a good one Bill...
I have swapped "hot" Sidewinder FF Pro and Formula F1 Driving System even today two times. > Oh, yeah. They do say so, and probably with good reason. I haven't > managed to short mine out, yet, but you shouldn't take my bad advice. > The only devices that should be swapped "hot" are USB and RS232 devices. -- Harri Pesonen http://www.sci.fi/~fuerte/ You should not underestimate the power of thickness - Kaoru Iwamoto

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