Thrustmaster F1 Force Feedback Racing Wheel

http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 Have someone tried it? As good as it looks? Martin

http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 Have someone tried it? As good as it looks? Martin

ive got one of those wheels and there not to bad...infact there very good ;-) Daz "MKH1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40488131$0$1670$[email hidden]...

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> > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > Have someone tried it? > As good as it looks? > > Martin > >

I like mine too. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "SuperDaz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c2a6uo$kqc$[email hidden]... > ive got one of those wheels and there not to bad...infact there very good > ;-) > > Daz > "MKH1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:40488131$0$1670$[email hidden]... > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > Have someone tried it? > > As good as it looks? > > > > Martin > > > > > >

"MKH1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40488131$0$1670$[email hidden]... > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > Have someone tried it? > As good as it looks? It is good, but not as good as a (red) Momo Force. With few original Momo's available now the TMF1FF would be a good buy I guess. I originally bought one, the wheel unit was incredibly sturdy & felt like it was built to last, but after 3 weeks the base of the pedal unit (thin plastic) broke near the hinge point for the throttle stopping the throttle from working. Also, the Force Feedback was appalling with the supplied software. Upgrading to the later version from the TM website the FF was excellent, but the profiler software was buggy as hell & I never got it to work properly in the 3 weeks that I had it. When the pedal broke I returned it for a refund, bought a Momo Force & haven't looked back since. The only thing I preferred about the TM wheel was that the shifter paddles were one solid bar, meaning that you could click forwards & backwards on either side to change gear. With the Momo the paddles are split so you have to pull back on each side. Not a major benefit, and provided you place the pedals on a hard surface (rather than carpet) they would probably be fine too. Malc.

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NMu2c.16335$[email hidden]...

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> "MKH1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:40488131$0$1670$[email hidden]... > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > Have someone tried it? > > As good as it looks? > > It is good, but not as good as a (red) Momo Force. With few original > Momo's available now the TMF1FF would be a good buy I guess. > > I originally bought one, the wheel unit was incredibly sturdy & felt > like it was built to last, but after 3 weeks the base of the pedal unit > (thin plastic) broke near the hinge point for the throttle stopping the > throttle from working. > > Also, the Force Feedback was appalling with the supplied software. > Upgrading to the later version from the TM website the FF was excellent, > but the profiler software was buggy as hell & I never got it to work > properly in the 3 weeks that I had it. > > When the pedal broke I returned it for a refund, bought a Momo Force & > haven't looked back since. The only thing I preferred about the TM wheel > was that the shifter paddles were one solid bar, meaning that you could > click forwards & backwards on either side to change gear. With the Momo > the paddles are split so you have to pull back on each side. Not a major > benefit, and provided you place the pedals on a hard surface (rather > than carpet) they would probably be fine too. > > Malc. >

Thanks for a usefull answer. Martin.

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> > When the pedal broke I returned it for a refund, bought a Momo Force & > haven't looked back since. The only thing I preferred about the TM wheel > was that the shifter paddles were one solid bar, meaning that you could > click forwards & backwards on either side to change gear. With the Momo > the paddles are split so you have to pull back on each side. Not a major > benefit, and provided you place the pedals on a hard surface (rather > than carpet) they would probably be fine too.

But no gas/brake levers, right? Martin.

"MKH1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:404b06a7$0$1604$[email hidden]... > > "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > When the pedal broke I returned it for a refund, bought a Momo Force& > > haven't looked back since. The only thing I preferred about the TMwheel > > was that the shifter paddles were one solid bar, meaning that youcould > > click forwards & backwards on either side to change gear. With theMomo > > the paddles are split so you have to pull back on each side. Not amajor > > benefit, and provided you place the pedals on a hard surface (rather > > than carpet) they would probably be fine too. > > But no gas/brake levers, right? That's true, the Momo doesn't have these. They duplicate the pedals and personally I didn't have a use for them & they weren't a factor in my buying decision. It would have been nice to be able to assign them (both) to the clutch, but you can't assign them separately from the pedals. If you could it would be a killer selling point but there you go. The TM has two extra buttons & a hat too, but again it's not a major selling point over the Momo for me. Malc.

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> > But no gas/brake levers, right? > > That's true, the Momo doesn't have these. They duplicate the pedals and > personally I didn't have a use for them & they weren't a factor in my > buying decision. > > It would have been nice to be able to assign them (both) to the clutch, > but you can't assign them separately from the pedals. If you could it > would be a killer selling point but there you go. The TM has two extra > buttons & a hat too, but again it's not a major selling point over the > Momo for me.

Do you know Logitech MOMO Racing Force? How is it compared to MOMO Force? Is it the same quality? Martin.

"MKH1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:404b6e43$0$1656$[email hidden]... > Do you know Logitech MOMO Racing Force? > How is it compared to MOMO Force? > Is it the same quality? Haven't tried the racing but at seems the FF is every bit as good as the red momo, but it lacks the steel roller bearings & metal bracing inside so won't be as rugged. The paddles are plastic not aluminium too and can apparently break if you aren't careful. It's probably cheaper than the TM though, and as a bonus you get a stick shifter (up/down only, not an H-gate). If you want something tough the TM is probably better (bear in mind my pedal problem though), if you want good FF go for the racing imo. If you can, go to a local PC shop & grip the wheel of each one and see how much up/down & side-to-side play there is. My red momo has zero play, although there is a little bit of a deadzone. The wheel can be moved a little on the racing, which suggests to me that after a few months it would put strain on the pot. If you find a red momo, grab it while you can. I guess it's a personal choice between the other two, I was lucky & didn't have to make that choice ;-) Malc.

> The paddles are plastic not aluminium too and can apparently break if > you aren't careful. I looked at a floor model, and they made a small but important design change. They've added a small positive stop to the paddle itself, presumably to reduce strain on the switches. It also felt more solid than I ever remember mine being. FWIW, I'd happily buy one with the new design to replace mine which did have the left paddle give out (continues to work very well otherwise). I'm giving the Driving Force Pro a go first though. > It's probably cheaper than the TM though, and as a bonus you get a stick > shifter (up/down only, not an H-gate). It's a nice bonus, but something about it's location makes it uncomfortable for me to use continuously. I think it's because I don't sit right in front of the wheel making it a bit of a stretch. If you like to sit really close to the wheel, the ergonomics should be ok. > If you can, go to a local PC shop & grip the wheel of each one and see > how much up/down & side-to-side play there is. My red momo has zero > play, although there is a little bit of a deadzone. The wheel can be > moved a little on the racing, which suggests to me that after a few > months it would put strain on the pot. There is definitely some play in the Racing's shaft. Fortunately, it uses an optical sensor which I imagine won't suffer from it (or at least not as much). Still, it can be annoying and a little disconcerting when things get a little crazy. I've not noticed any problems from it though. Also, someone out there has instructions on tightening things up, but it requires disassembling the wheel a good bit. Alan

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:jjE2c.16416$[email hidden]:

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>> But no gas/brake levers, right? > > That's true, the Momo doesn't have these. They duplicate the pedals and > personally I didn't have a use for them & they weren't a factor in my > buying decision. > > It would have been nice to be able to assign them (both) to the clutch, > but you can't assign them separately from the pedals. If you could it > would be a killer selling point but there you go. The TM has two extra > buttons & a hat too, but again it's not a major selling point over the > Momo for me.

You can (and you should ;>) use these levers as a clutch. If you disconnect pedals from the wheel, you'll have a controller with 3 axi* (steering wheel and 2 levers). Rewire the pedals to the gameport and configure generic joystick in OS. Now you got 2 more axi*. Thus you can use pedals for throttle/brake, and one of the levers as clutch. Not sure how to use remaing lever though. While my Thrustmaster Ferrari FFW lasted I was driving exactly like that, and after moving to MSFF I was really missing the analog clutch. What I'm wondering is where people are buying new TM Ferrari wheel? Obviously, no local retailer carries it here, and I couldn't even find one online :( Alex.