Gran Turismo for PC??

Does anyone know if the Playstation game Gran Trusimo is out for the PC yet?? and if so if there is a demo?? Thanks Mike

No it's not out. No there is no demo. >Does anyone know if the Playstation game Gran Trusimo is out for the PC >yet?? and if so if there is a demo?? >Thanks >Mike

No, it has not even been announced. I'm afraid that you're going to have to buy a Playstation just from Gran Turismo, just like I did a few months back :-) says...

The hell with GT, go take a look at a REAL racing game, not Jap tin cans: http://www.game-over.net/preview/august/procar/

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> I sent an email to Sony a few weeks back asking if there were any > plans for a PC version and they told me that there were not. They want > you to buy a Playstation to play GT. > On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:28:19 -0400, Mike Lamanna > >Does anyone know if the Playstation game Gran Trusimo is out for the PC > >yet?? and if so if there is a demo?? > >Thanks > >Mike

I sent an email to Sony a few weeks back asking if there were any plans for a PC version and they told me that there were not. They want you to buy a Playstation to play GT. On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:28:19 -0400, Mike Lamanna >Does anyone know if the Playstation game Gran Trusimo is out for the PC >yet?? and if so if there is a demo?? >Thanks >Mike

Michael, This game sounds phenomenal! The screenshots are fantastic. I can't wait. I hope the gameplay and physics model are as good as the screenshots. Thanks for the info! Todd Walker On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:28:27 -0700, Michael Zamarocy

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>The hell with GT, go take a look at a REAL racing game, not Jap tin >cans: >http://www.game-over.net/preview/august/procar/ >> I sent an email to Sony a few weeks back asking if there were any >> plans for a PC version and they told me that there were not. They want >> you to buy a Playstation to play GT. >> On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:28:19 -0400, Mike Lamanna >> >Does anyone know if the Playstation game Gran Trusimo is out for the PC >> >yet?? and if so if there is a demo?? >> >Thanks >> >Mike

Oh Todd, you don't know how much I am salivating at this too! Those screenshots with the BMW's are awesome, and the 911 GT1 from the rear looks so damn nice! I just wish there was an Audi A4 Quattro in the game, as well as in the real events! And as a sidenote, my old buddy I used to race with in Milwaukee, Peter "PD" Cunningham races part time in either the GT2 or GT3 BMW M3 in this series. Otherwise he is in the Honda/Acura sponsored NSX in the Supercar Series. Makes me wonder if the graphics are good enough that I might see his name on the door/roof??? :)

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> Michael, > This game sounds phenomenal! The screenshots are fantastic. I can't > wait. I hope the gameplay and physics model are as good as the > screenshots. > Thanks for the info! > Todd Walker

Hey I got the drive Professional Sports Car Racing at E3 and I was glued to it for 4hrs. It really is an awesome sim, finally we get to do some real endurance racing on the PC. The hell with Grand Turisom. Arthur s t e a l t h r a c i n g http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html

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>Oh Todd, you don't know how much I am salivating at this too! Those >screenshots with the BMW's are awesome, and the 911 GT1 from the rear >looks so damn nice! I just wish there was an Audi A4 Quattro in the >game, as well as in the real events! >And as a sidenote, my old buddy I used to race with in Milwaukee, Peter >"PD" Cunningham races part time in either the GT2 or GT3 BMW M3 in this >series. Otherwise he is in the Honda/Acura sponsored NSX in the Supercar >Series. Makes me wonder if the graphics are good enough that I might see >his name on the door/roof??? :) >> Michael, >> This game sounds phenomenal! The screenshots are fantastic. I can't >> wait. I hope the gameplay and physics model are as good as the >> screenshots. >> Thanks for the info! >> Todd Walker

Well the guy told me most of the physics werent even done when I gave it a try. But the driving was very cool. When I jumped in a GT3 cars the GT1s would blew me away. Night racing is amazing! I really like the little things they did. For example the cars would really feel like driving over bumps on the tracks. We were LAN racing with 4 systems at E3, I get to try most of the tracks and cars. Mosport, Laguna Seca, Sebring, Las Vegas infield are just a few tracks i tried. Drove the Panoz, Viper, BMW, Porche 911 all classes, GT2 Mustang. The rain effects didnt seem done at the time, but it felt loose and the road was shiny. Break lights would shine up during the night racing or rain. The *** rep told he that the Sebring race would be 12hrs long. And that the game would support internet play. On a LAN it screamed. The detail of the tracks were very nice, graphics were awesome on a 3dfx. Compared to ICR2 Laguna looked more colorful and many more times detail. Curbs were there where they should be. You could lock up tires, spin coming out of the corners if you applies the gas. This sim amazed me! I love this type of racing and finally someone made a great sim of Sports Car Racing. I know I'll be playing this and GPL for a long time to come. Arthur s t e a l t h r a c i n g http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html Gulf/Jag 1997 WIERS Drivers and Constructors Champion >So give us hungry people here some details... how were the car physics, crash >effects, AI, etc.? We all know what the graphics look like :-) >All these great racing games coming out (GPL, Professional Sports Car Racing, >Trans-Am Racing, Nascar 3) and so little time (damn college :-) ) >Brian Short

So give us hungry people here some details... how were the car physics, crash effects, AI, etc.? We all know what the graphics look like :-) All these great racing games coming out (GPL, Professional Sports Car Racing, Trans-Am Racing, Nascar 3) and so little time (damn college :-) ) Brian Short

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> Hey I got the drive Professional Sports Car Racing at E3 and I was glued to > it for 4hrs. It really is an awesome sim, finally we get to do some real > endurance racing on the PC. The hell with Grand Turisom. > Arthur > s t e a l t h > r a c i n g > http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html > >Oh Todd, you don't know how much I am salivating at this too! Those > >screenshots with the BMW's are awesome, and the 911 GT1 from the rear > >looks so damn nice! I just wish there was an Audi A4 Quattro in the > >game, as well as in the real events! > >And as a sidenote, my old buddy I used to race with in Milwaukee, Peter > >"PD" Cunningham races part time in either the GT2 or GT3 BMW M3 in this > >series. Otherwise he is in the Honda/Acura sponsored NSX in the Supercar > >Series. Makes me wonder if the graphics are good enough that I might see > >his name on the door/roof??? :) > >> Michael, > >> This game sounds phenomenal! The screenshots are fantastic. I can't > >> wait. I hope the gameplay and physics model are as good as the > >> screenshots. > >> Thanks for the info! > >> Todd Walker

Thanks for the response... Glad to see they are throwing enduro races in, but I cant see myself racing one, at least in one sitting... imagine the strain on your eyes, doing a 12 hour race on your computer... :-O Brian Short

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> Well the guy told me most of the physics werent even done when I gave it a > try. But the driving was very cool. When I jumped in a GT3 cars the GT1s > would blew me away. Night racing is amazing! I really like the little things > they did. For example the cars would really feel like driving over bumps on > the tracks. We were LAN racing with 4 systems at E3, I get to try most of > the tracks and cars. Mosport, Laguna Seca, Sebring, Las Vegas infield are > just a few tracks i tried. Drove the Panoz, Viper, BMW, Porche 911 all > classes, GT2 Mustang. The rain effects didnt seem done at the time, but it > felt loose and the road was shiny. Break lights would shine up during the > night racing or rain. The *** rep told he that the Sebring race would be > 12hrs long. And that the game would support internet play. On a LAN it > screamed. The detail of the tracks were very nice, graphics were awesome on > a 3dfx. Compared to ICR2 Laguna looked more colorful and many more times > detail. Curbs were there where they should be. You could lock up tires, spin > coming out of the corners if you applies the gas. This sim amazed me! I love > this type of racing and finally someone made a great sim of Sports Car > Racing. I know I'll be playing this and GPL for a long time to come. > Arthur > s t e a l t h > r a c i n g > http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html > Gulf/Jag > 1997 WIERS Drivers and Constructors Champion

> Hey I got the drive Professional Sports Car Racing at E3 and I was glued to > it for 4hrs. It really is an awesome sim, finally we get to do some real > endurance racing on the PC. The hell with Grand Turisom. Yeah, but can you buy and sell REAL cars, like ones you may be able to actually own yourself. Can you modify many aspects of the cars, in ways like reality, such as buying a new suspension kit, and only then being able to adjust ride height etc. Or is it just another race car sim, round and round the ***y track all day, chuck it on the pile with the other crap, sort of game? Yeah, driving physics is important, and so is graphics. But so is the range of cars, the life-like sounds they make, the ability to basically road-test cars on a computer, without having to go to a dealer, and the ability to experiement with modifications. This are the areas where Gran Turismo shines!!! ............Tim....... "Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed to a slow vibration... That we are all of one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively... There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imaginations of ourselves... Now here's Tom with the weather." -- Bill Hicks

I hope they have either a save game option or let an AI car take over and fast forward the race a few hours. I use to race in 24hr ICR2 endurance races driving for 4hrs at a time and then handing the race off to a team mate. Maybe they might have something like that? Or when you switch drivers the game saves at that point so people dont load races if they crash for leagues. Arthur s t e a l t h r a c i n g http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html >Thanks for the response... Glad to see they are throwing enduro races in, but I >cant see myself racing one, at least in one sitting... imagine the strain on

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>your eyes, doing a 12 hour race on your computer... :-O >Brian Short >> Well the guy told me most of the physics werent even done when I gave it

a >> try. But the driving was very cool. When I jumped in a GT3 cars the GT1s >> would blew me away. Night racing is amazing! I really like the little things >> they did. For example the cars would really feel like driving over bumps on >> the tracks. We were LAN racing with 4 systems at E3, I get to try most of >> the tracks and cars. Mosport, Laguna Seca, Sebring, Las Vegas infield are >> just a few tracks i tried. Drove the Panoz, Viper, BMW, Porche 911 all >> classes, GT2 Mustang. The rain effects didnt seem done at the time, but it >> felt loose and the road was shiny. Break lights would shine up during the >> night racing or rain. The *** rep told he that the Sebring race would be >> 12hrs long. And that the game would support internet play. On a LAN it >> screamed. The detail of the tracks were very nice, graphics were awesome on >> a 3dfx. Compared to ICR2 Laguna looked more colorful and many more times >> detail. Curbs were there where they should be. You could lock up tires, spin >> coming out of the corners if you applies the gas. This sim amazed me! I love

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>> this type of racing and finally someone made a great sim of Sports Car >> Racing. I know I'll be playing this and GPL for a long time to come. >> Arthur >> s t e a l t h >> r a c i n g >> http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html >> Gulf/Jag >> 1997 WIERS Drivers and Constructors Champion

> So give us hungry people here some details... how were the car physics, crash > effects, AI, etc.? We all know what the graphics look like :-) > All these great racing games coming out (GPL, Professional Sports Car Racing, > Trans-Am Racing, Nascar 3) and so little time (damn college :-) ) > Brian Short Trans Am Racing Game???? WHERE????? As for me, having raced for years in SCCA, I AM SICK OF NASCAR! Unless I got Speedvision (which my cable company don't), I can't get to see REAL racing like BTCC, STW, BOCC - all I get to see is a bunch of bubble gum/tobacco chewing Arkansas hooligans! I don't want circles, I want TRUE Road Racing!

> Thanks for the response... Glad to see they are throwing enduro races in, but I > cant see myself racing one, at least in one sitting... imagine the strain on > your eyes, doing a 12 hour race on your computer... :-O > Brian Short But then you COULD call it a true SIMM! Cause you'd feel just like the real drivers! :) Only thing missing would be getting beat to hell from all the bouncing and "G" forces! But then I guess the wives would accomplish that for us (with a rolling pin) if we DID sit at a game for all 12 hours! LOL!!!!

>"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy > condensed to a slow vibration... That we are all of one conciousness > experiencing itself subjectively... There is no such thing as death, life is > only a dream, and we are the imaginations of ourselves... Now here's Tom > with the weather." -- Bill Hicks Been listening to a lot of Tool lately, Tim? ;<)

Professional Sports Car Racing is a sim of real Sports Car Racing. They are real RACE cars, you get to drive cars in GT1, GT2, and GT3 classes like the Panoz, Porche 911, Viper, Mustang, BMW. These cars wont be stock but racing versions of the cars like say a Viper GT1. There probably wont be any money managment in the sim. But if I wanted to buy, sell, and make stuff I'd go play Civilization or Grand Prix Manager. Arthur s t e a l t h r a c i n g http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html >> Hey I got the drive Professional Sports Car Racing at E3 and I was glued to >> it for 4hrs. It really is an awesome sim, finally we get to do some real >> endurance racing on the PC. The hell with Grand Turisom. > Yeah, but can you buy and sell REAL cars, like ones you may be able to >actually own yourself. Can you modify many aspects of the cars, in ways like >reality, such as buying a new suspension kit, and only then being able to >adjust ride height etc. Or is it just another race car sim, round and round the >***y track all day, chuck it on the pile with the other crap, sort of game? >Yeah, driving physics is important, and so is graphics. But so is the range of >cars, the life-like sounds they make, the ability to basically road-test cars >on a computer, without having to go to a dealer, and the ability to experiement

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>with modifications. This are the areas where Gran Turismo shines!!! >............Tim....... >"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy > condensed to a slow vibration... That we are all of one conciousness > experiencing itself subjectively... There is no such thing as death, life

is > only a dream, and we are the imaginations of ourselves... Now here's Tom > with the weather." -- Bill Hicks

> Yeah, but can you buy and sell REAL cars, like ones you may be able to > actually own yourself. Gee, when you grow up, you want to be a Car Salesman for Toyota or something, right? Maybe they might include a hacksaw so you can cut your own springs??? Gran Turismo is NOT a simm! It is an ARCADE GAME! And full of Jap Tin Cans! I see enough of THAT ***on the streets here every day in SoCal! I used to race RX7's a long time ago, but I am sick of these "RICE" cars (except the RX7). I want to play a REAL race game! And that is what this new SIMM is all about. It is the closest game to a LeMans style of driving around. And the cars in GT are no where NEAR the quality of the real GT1, GT2, and GT3 that are portrayed in this game. Ah, go play with your Playstation! Leave the real simms for the PC crowd.

You mean I can't plug it into my motherboards memory sockets? Oh, except yours. About says it all. Well, playstations probably don't take the same simms as the PC does anyway. Gee haven't you switched to dimms yet?

> >Gran Turismo is NOT a simm! > You mean I can't plug it into my motherboards memory sockets? Ok, so I get the SIM confused with the SIMMS, and so thus I am DIMM :) Well, if you drove/raced a rotary, you'd have a special place in your heart for them too! And they are NOT as numerous, or as popular with the street crowd, as the Integra's, Civic's, Accord's, or Sentra's - with a sprinkling of Supra's. And the Gen 3 is an awesome car, except for its many problems. And as for Toyota? I hate them with a passion! After working at Toyota Dealerships for over 13 years in both Parts and Service, I vowed never to buy one! The owners of these dealers never really treated their employees with respect, nor did you get benefits or whatever! Since the last day I worked at one (over 11 years now), I have never stepped onto the lot at a Toyota or Lexus dealer. Ok, you got me on that one! :)

>>Maybe they might include a hacksaw so you can cut your own springs??? >Why did you take my comments so personally? It appeared to me you took the original message personally, with all your exclamation marks etc. I guess people are into different things in games. I personally look for games that I CAN'T do (e.g. afford to do) in real life, like racing real racing cars. If I can afford to buy the GT cars in real life and modify them, why wouldn't I do it in real life instead? Are you talking about PC or PS driving games now? As great as it is, GT still doesn't have a damage model. If these forthcoming PC racing sims won't have either, I will probably not buy them, except maybe as funny arcade racing games. Which games are you talking about specifically? For example in F1RS there are differences between the cars, just like in real life. So why don't you drive and modify them in real life then instead? Is it more satisfying to do it in a console game? I play games to experience things I couldn't do in real life. For example, driving a high power F1 car in a race, or flying a F15 or EF2000 in a full scale war. I don't want to play a Ford Mondeo simulator because I can already drive it in real life. :)

>Yeah, but can you buy and sell REAL cars, like ones you may be able to >actually own yourself. Can you modify many aspects of the cars, in ways like >reality, such as buying a new suspension kit, and only then being able to >adjust ride height etc. Or is it just another race car sim, round and round the >***y track all day, chuck it on the pile with the other crap, sort of game? You haven't played many PC racing sims, have you? In basically all of them the modifications to the cars is a big part of the game.

> > Yeah, but can you buy and sell REAL cars, like ones you may be able to > > actually own yourself. > Gee, when you grow up, you want to be a Car Salesman for Toyota or > something, right? No. I just like real cars... Why did you take my comments so personally? I'm into REAL cars and modifications to real cars, therefore I like games that allow you to do this. You must prefer racing games with race cars, right?? Not as much as arcade as most. Certainly one of the best sims I've played... Silly opinion.... Yep. Nice cars. I suppose you like all those GP sims too. Those boring old round and round the *** track in cars with no difference between them sort of sims?? Never driven those cars. Probably never will. I will never know if the games close to reality or not, except for your word, but then I'm not sure you've driven them either. I've driven many of the cars features in GT, and can say that the game is very true to many of them. Going round and round a track for 12 hours does really get me going. May work for you though... Don't have a PSX, sorry. Still waiting for GT on the PC. And you really shouldn't make such generalisations that PCs have all the sims and PSX have all arcade games, without actually playing the games. GT and Colin McRae Rally are great sims that are yet to appear on PC (Collin McRae coming soon), but I'm not about to buy a silly PSX after continally spending so much on my PC. I suppose you prefer NFS2 (the one with the silly super-cars and round and round tracks) to NFS1 (the one with real cars and open roads)??? -- ............Tim.......

> No. I just like real cars... So do I, but I prefer real race cars to street cars (on the track, of course). Yes, I prefer real race cars, and I think your idea has some merit, being able to change setups, but then perhaps they should come out with a separate game for testing setups (like you want), and then you can save them to import into the racing game, or even share them with friends over the Internet. The trouble is, there might not be enough room for both the race, and the setup/testing that you want. So for me, I'd prefer the racing. Unfortunately, no matter how much you test drive a car/race car on the PC, or try out modifications, it will not give you a real road test of that car. I HAVE raced sports cars in the past, and I HAVE raced at Road America, Gratten, Blackhawk Farms, Riverside, and other tracks, and I can tell you this - even with a T2 or NASCAR Pro Wheel on a fast PC (with 3Dfx), I STILL can't go in a straight line or brake, or take the turns well at Road America in a PC game, even though I have driven on that track for years! The only game, so far, that makes me feel like I am in a race car, is actually TOCA! But even that has its shortcomings (no road feel, unrealistic speeds through turns, bizarre braking, AI cars coming out of spins and suddenly ahead of you in an instant!), but it at least makes me move around in my seat. It is fantasy, though. LeMans and Sport Racing is based on real tracks and events. True though, isn't it? Most of the cars, as the game is from Japan, are Rice burners. I also worked for Toyota for over 13 years, and a, sick of them all _ again except for the RX7, and I just LOVE the Gen 3 rocket! Just in real life they are highly unreliable, and thus why Mazda took them off the US market (though I hear they are still sold back there). The Gen 3 is the sharpest looking of all RX7's! No argument there. Not really, the only game that gets me going is TOCA. Even NASCAR2 with the BTCC/STW/BOCC patch isn't as good as TOCA to me. No, I have not driven THOSE cars, but I have driven other race cars years ago. So when it comes out, I might be able to tell if it is close. But without the true road feel, it will never be the exact experience, no matter what game/sim it is. Gets you going, or does NOT get you going? And even in the real races, no one driver does the entire 12/24 hours of racing - you'd kill yourself, or be a hazard to the others around you. This type of racing is to test the endurance of the car, not the driver. But as I LOVE racing, I wouldn't mind putting as many hours behind the wheel as I could, EXCEPT in the rain! UGH!!!! Hate NFS, it is no where near real. And as for my favorite sim - M1 Tank Platoon 2, . . . how's that? If I can't beat the competition, then I can blow them away! =^) Oh, I WILL agree with you on NASCAR, going around and around in circles is boring to me. I need turns, plenty of them, and in all directions/shapes/and sizes.

AA> Professional Sports Car Racing is a sim of real Sports Car Racing. They AA> are real RACE cars, you get to drive cars in GT1, GT2, and GT3 classes AA> like the Panoz, Porche 911, Viper, Mustang, BMW. These cars wont be AA> stock but racing versions of the cars like say a Viper GT1. There AA> probably wont be any money managment in the sim. But if I wanted to buy, AA> sell, and make stuff I'd go play Civilization or Grand Prix Manager. Do yo know when the game will be released ?? Thanx in advance !! Also, man mailt sich... .\\atze [ FmMW2109 - FmMB2139 ] *home* : http://www.home4u.de/buesing/

I've heard their goal is xmas 98. But with PC games you never know? Don't be suprised to see this out sometime in 99. Arthur s t e a l t h r a c i n g http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html >AA> Professional Sports Car Racing is a sim of real Sports Car Racing. They >AA> are real RACE cars, you get to drive cars in GT1, GT2, and GT3 classes >AA> like the Panoz, Porche 911, Viper, Mustang, BMW. These cars wont be >AA> stock but racing versions of the cars like say a Viper GT1. There >AA> probably wont be any money managment in the sim. But if I wanted to buy,

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>AA> sell, and make stuff I'd go play Civilization or Grand Prix Manager. >Do yo know when the game will be released ?? >Thanx in advance !! >Also, man mailt sich... >.\\atze [ FmMW2109 - FmMB2139 ] >*home* : http://www.home4u.de/buesing/

On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:47:15 -0700, Michael Zamarocy >Not really, the only game that gets me going is TOCA. Even NASCAR2 with >the BTCC/STW/BOCC patch isn't as good as TOCA to me. For someone who started ***in' about arcade games not being sims etc etc, I find it hard to believe that your fav game is a silly wee arcade game like TOCA. Just my tuppence worth ;-) Cheers Ken (TDT Thunder) Remove NOSPAM from address for e-mail