F1RS2 - Monaco Racing Sim

It's called Monaco G.P. Racing Sim because they didn't get an FIA license, but they did get a license from the Monaco G.P. That's the reason it isn't F1RS2. > I just went here http://www.f1rs.com/newseng.html > being called Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim. Why is it called this? > Sorry if this news is old > Thanks

I just went here http://www.f1rs.com/newseng.html and found out that F1RS 2 is being called Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim. Why is it called this? Sorry if this news is old Thanks

They do not have the FIA/Bernie Ecclestone Super Licence needed to be able to legally use the words "F1", "FIA", "FOCA", and the team names, drivers names, sponsor names and track/circuit names (other than Monaco, which they have arranged with Monaco itself.) > I just went here http://www.f1rs.com/newseng.html and found out that F1RS 2 is > being called Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim. Why is it called this? > Sorry if this news is old > Thanks -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

> They do not have the FIA/Bernie Ecclestone Super Licence needed to be > able to legally use the words "F1", "FIA", "FOCA", and the team names, > drivers names, sponsor names and track/circuit names (other than Monaco, > which they have arranged with Monaco itself.) Oh man, Bernie pisses me off more every day. Imagine, if a game developer can't afford the license to, in some degree, PROMOTE the thing by developing a simulation of it. It's like those cutie Tshirts with big manufacturer logos on them, for which you pay a premium to walk around like a PR bozo... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

I heard something to the extent that Psygnosis has secured the FIA license for the next few seasons. If so, it is a travesty to say the least that the game which does the least justice to the sport (in sim terms anyway) has sole rights for the next couple of years. Hopefully this is just another rumor floating around... F1Filter

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> > They do not have the FIA/Bernie Ecclestone Super Licence needed to be > > able to legally use the words "F1", "FIA", "FOCA", and the team names, > > drivers names, sponsor names and track/circuit names (other than Monaco, > > which they have arranged with Monaco itself.) > Oh man, Bernie pisses me off more every day. Imagine, if a game > developer > can't afford the license to, in some degree, PROMOTE the thing by > developing > a simulation of it.

I've been an F1 fan since the "O" in "FOCA" meant "Ox Cart". But how many times have we seen posts that go "I was never a fan of Formula One until I started racing this sim"? If Bernie wasn't so cheap, he'd have more people watching his series, and make more money. He should give Ubi, or any sim developer, the rights to promote his sport. How is F1RS2 going to deal with other license issues? The idea of providing the tools to let the customers duplicate any team of track has always interested me. Larry

>I just went here http://www.f1rs.com/newseng.html and found out that F1RS 2 is >being called Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim. Why is it called this? Er...it's a Working Title, according to this page. Remco

Maybe the just don't want the licence, so the can gave more freedom of whats in it and whats not, No more driver X. We can create all our own Driver and Team names in no time. cheers Graham >>I just went here http://www.f1rs.com/newseng.html and found out that F1RS 2 is >>being called Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim. Why is it called this? >Er...it's a Working Title, according to this page. >Remco

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> > Oh man, Bernie pisses me off more every day. Imagine, if a game > > developer > > can't afford the license to, in some degree, PROMOTE the thing by > > developing > > a simulation of it. > I've been an F1 fan since the "O" in "FOCA" meant "Ox Cart". > But how many times have we seen posts that go "I was never a > fan of Formula One until I started racing this sim"?

That's excactly my situation (starting with GP1 on Atari...). l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

I don't believe that it is a *sole* license situation with F1. As I understand it, anybody will be granted license rights *provided* that they are prepared to pay FIA/FOCA for that license. > I heard something to the extent that Psygnosis has secured the FIA license for > the next few seasons. If so, it is a travesty to say the least that the game > which does the least justice to the sport (in sim terms anyway) has sole rights > for the next couple of years. > Hopefully this is just another rumor floating around... -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

> I just went here http://www.f1rs.com/newseng.html and found out that F1RS 2 is > being called Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim. Why is it called this? > Sorry if this news is old > Thanks The name change may well have to do with licensing agreement. I don't really care what they call it. As long as it's an updated F1rs, they can call it "Barney does Dallas" for all I care <ggg.> All the best, Mike -- Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works Computer/Audio/Video Convergence "from Creative minds spring Creative solutions." http://www.creativemedia-works.com

I agree, but will they be allowed to use the correct driver and team names etc? > The name change may well have to do with licensing agreement. I don't really care >what they call it. As long as it's an updated F1rs, they can call it "Barney does

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>Dallas" for all I care <ggg.> > All the best, Mike >-- > Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works > Computer/Audio/Video Convergence >"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions." > http://www.creativemedia-works.com

I dont think so... if you look at the latest screenshots, the sponsors look fake on the cars... correct me if I'm wrong... Brian Short

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> I agree, but will they be allowed to use the correct driver and team names > etc? > > The name change may well have to do with licensing agreement. I don't > really care > >what they call it. As long as it's an updated F1rs, they can call it > "Barney does > >Dallas" for all I care <ggg.> > > All the best, Mike > >-- > > Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works > > Computer/Audio/Video Convergence > >"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions." > > http://www.creativemedia-works.com

> I agree, but will they be allowed to use the correct driver and team names > etc? For F1RS you could download editors for that after some weeks. F1RS2 will be fully editable (well, it's promised ;^), so they don't need to... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

No, but they can provide us with the ability to change the info. Which, if you read the blurb, is exactly what they intend doing. > I agree, but will they be allowed to use the correct driver and team names? -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/