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Gran Turismo PC

23 posts by 16 people · 05 Aug 1998 - 14 Aug 1998

Supposed Gran Turismo PC 3dfx screenshots exposed

A link to supposed 3dfx screenshots of a PC Gran Turismo drew scepticism, and posters identified them as renders from the Playstation version's video intro. The site's owner admitted he had taken them from a 3dfx site that claimed they were real.

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Me 05 Aug 1998#415805
Yes, its a pitty they are fake. The day a game comes out with that much fine detail on the car being so crisp, is the day i *** infront of everybody at the olympics.
Todd Hecke 05 Aug 1998#415806
>Yes, its a pitty they are fake. The day a game comes out with that much >fine detail on the car being so crisp, is the day i *** infront of >everybody at the olympics. You know, this is the second time in as many weeks (the first being on LoveLine, that trendy 90's MTV "talkshow" where people call in and announce to the world their *** problems) that I've heard the word "***" used as a verb. It's a sure sign one is getting on in years when words that used to be taboo become so common that they start to take on new meaning... Anyway, I agree that these have got to be made up. I mean, those texture maps must be 1Kx1K. And that motion-blur. Like, fer sure. Todd
Kai Fuller 05 Aug 1998#415807
huh? I get the www.coolinfo.com to link just fine in my outlook express, you using netscape or something???
Quoted text (16 lines)>Now, if you'd added the http:// to the address, like below, it would >have been quite easy! :o) >http://www.coolinfo.com >> Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures of >> Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card. >-- >Regards, >Bruce. >---------- >The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- >http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Quoted text (8 lines)> Yes, its a pitty they are fake. The day a game comes out with that much > fine detail on the car being so crisp, is the day i *** infront of > everybody at the olympics. > > Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures
of > > Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card. Well, I certainly can't say for sure that those pics are fake or not, but if I recall the playstation graphics for this game in replay mode are incredible so who knows what it could look like with 3dfx graphics and the higher screen resolutions. You might want to reserve some tickets for the next Olympics just in case.......
Sorry to break it to you, but those screenshots are renders from the video intro in the Playstation version. A 3Dfx version would be very hot, but no where near the quality of these screenshots. Kyle >Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures of >Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card.
Skid 06 Aug 1998#415931
No prob. I just happened to see it, and I saw "3Dfx screenshots". Thought I'd post it here for others to comment on its reality. BTW Bruce..... www.coolinfo.com works as a valid link for me.....even without the http:// in front of it.
Quoted text (10 lines)>Sorry to break it to you, but those screenshots are renders from the video >intro in the Playstation version. A 3Dfx version would be very hot, but no >where near the quality of these screenshots. >Kyle >>Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures of >>Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card.
Jr Bill 06 Aug 1998#415932
so Gran Turismo is definitely coming out for PC?
: Well, I certainly can't say for sure that those pics are fake or not, but : if I recall the playstation graphics for this game in replay mode are : incredible so who knows what it could look like with 3dfx graphics and the : higher screen resolutions. They are definitely fake. Firstly, whoever heard of running a 900x675 resolution on Voodoo 1 or 2? Another giveaway is the black outlines used around the headlights of the cars in some pictures. Not only are the curves improbably detailed, but they are so detailed that the faker's mistakes become obvious. For example, check out the hoodline of the Honda in GRANDTUR.JPG. Plus, there are the odd "halos" around color borders indicating smoothing or blending, the speed blur, the redrawn and consequently mis-spaced lettering, et cetera. I'm guessing these "previews" are touched-up, pre-rendered publicity stills (that have graced any number of Playstation magazine covers). However, wouldn't it be great if I were wrong? Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!
: No prob. I just happened to see it, and I saw "3Dfx screenshots". Thought : I'd post it here for others to comment on its reality. BTW Bruce..... : www.coolinfo.com works as a valid link for me.....even without the http:// : in front of it. There are several things worth consider. First is the resolution. The screen shot got resolution of 900x675 and one is at 900x647. So strange. Second is the motion blur effect in a picture... It is just not possible. Third is the resolution of textures. It cannot be so crisp. 3Dfx only supports texture resolution up to 256x256 pixels. And 3Dfx got limited texture memory. It would better say the screen shot are from AGP D3D board with high resolution texture on main memory. Lastly, today's 3D card will never simulate the 'focus effect'. Some pictures try to make the front car in focus and blur the cars at the back. The guy maybe good at making fake photos. But these screen shot are just too fake to make people believe. Worth noting that the guy have done a good job on the famous 'grain' effect of 3Dfx boards.(i.e. something like dither pattern in the picture) In conclusion: fake screen shot. Bernard Shum
ymenard 06 Aug 1998#415937
Shum Chun Pong Bernard wrote Hello ? Those aren't fake pictures, they are from the Video intro of the GT playstation game... - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Spaw 07 Aug 1998#416063
Hey guys...this is Ed from www.coolinfo.com I got those screenshots from a 3Dfx site that claimed they were real....they do look really nice though... but I had a question... Remember those old racing game that took really picture and try to blend them in as the background....it looked real cheesy cuz they try to make it look real........is it possible to take those same backgrounds and put the non focus effect on them....I think that would make a cool effect like in those screenshots.... Anyone know what im getting at? Ed www.coolinfo.com >Sorry to say, but those are definitely fake. First they look way too good to be >on any 3d card. Not too mention that Voodoo cards use a little too much >filtering than this screen shot shows. Also, the motion blur on the back ground
Quoted text (10 lines)>is also a big clue. And finally, the models are way too detailed to be in a >game. We won't see these kinds of game shots for another 3 to 4 years. >Alex >>Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures of >>Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card.
q.. 07 Aug 1998#416064
They make a good background for my desktop though. It also raises the question of how the "screen shots", "Fakes" were produced. As has been stated in this thread they are from the GT intro off the PS CD. What was used to capture them and what was the reasonable expected sample resolution that they could be captured from a PS video feed? Maybe, just maybe, they are from the the intro to a PC port of GT. huh? huh? wadda ya?
Quoted text (33 lines)>Hey guys...this is Ed from www.coolinfo.com >I got those screenshots from a 3Dfx site that claimed they were real....they >do look really nice though... >but I had a question... >Remember those old racing game that took really picture and try to blend >them in as the background....it looked real cheesy cuz they try to make it >look real........is it possible to take those same backgrounds and put the >non focus effect on them....I think that would make a cool effect like in >those screenshots.... >Anyone know what im getting at? >Ed >www.coolinfo.com >>Sorry to say, but those are definitely fake. First they look way too good >to be >>on any 3d card. Not too mention that Voodoo cards use a little too much >>filtering than this screen shot shows. Also, the motion blur on the back >ground >>is also a big clue. And finally, the models are way too detailed to be in a >>game. We won't see these kinds of game shots for another 3 to 4 years. >>Alex >>>Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures of >>>Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card.
meij 13 Aug 1998#416658
Yah... cos we're all too dumb to recognise a URL or copy and paste it into a browser. M
Quoted text (9 lines)>Now, if you'd added the http:// to the address, like below, it would >have been quite easy! :o) >http://www.coolinfo.com >> Goto www.coolinfo.com and scroll down the news. There are 4 pictures of >> Gran Tursimo-PC using a 3Dfx card.
No, because he'd already included 90% of the URL so why not go the whole way? > Yah... cos we're all too dumb to recognise a URL or copy and paste it into a > browser.
Doug Reichl 14 Aug 1998#416755
: No, because he'd already included 90% of the URL so why not go the whole : way? What browser are you using? You do not have to type the "http://" in most browsers. It is understood and filled in for you. -- -------------------------------------
Bruce's getting a bit old...way too much v-e-g-e-m-i-t-e in his diet, I suppose. ;) Cheers! Marc > What browser are you using? You do not have to type the "http://" in most > browsers. It is understood and filled in for you. > -- > ------------------------------------- -- Marc J. Nelson The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *
ymenard 14 Aug 1998#416757
Marc J. Nelson wrote I don't know... maybe it's his degustation of Killer Bunnies... He ain't letting them enough roosted, still _way_ too much bacteria in them, he is starting to mutate into some sort of... 3-headed man with giant ears and 5-foot tall legs. Ni ! - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
"Browser", yes. (Netscape Comm.4.01) "News reader", no, it isn't.(Netscape Comm. 4.01)
Quoted text (7 lines)> : No, because he'd already included 90% of the URL so why not go the whole > : way? > What browser are you using? You do not have to type the "http://" in most > browsers. It is understood and filled in for you. > -- > -------------------------------------
-- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

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