GP2 & 400 PII

Hi Everybody, Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill the 450 mhz chip comes out. Regards, Ralph

I've heard it's all programmed into the code. It's just not optimized for today's machines. A faster computer won't likely make a difference. I know I haven't noticed much of one. (This is all what I've heard around the net and talking to others too). On a similar end, A-10 Cuba runs great on PC's, but on Mac's which is the platform the A-10 series started on, if you get a G750 (their fastests machines are the G models), it still will run slow because of the way the code was written. It's just outdated that's all. Pete ******************************************************************** Pete Hawk ************** www.hawkmodels.com ******** R/C Jet Airliners and Military Transports **** ********************************************** >I have a P2/333 Asus P2L97, 64MB SDRam 12ns, Matrox Millennium 1(sp?). >I can run all graphics in LOW RES, it stays around 50-60% for all tracks >except >Monaco when it jumps to 70-80%. It only reaches 90-100% when I crash really

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>bad :) >It would seem to me, we need to wait for the PIV 1GHz to run in HIGH RES ;) >Jason. >> Hi Everybody, >> Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? >> I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz >> PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill >> the 450 mhz chip comes out. >> Regards, >> Ralph >-- >Jason Monds >(Remove 'no spork' when replying)

I have a P2/333 Asus P2L97, 64MB SDRam 12ns, Matrox Millennium 1(sp?). I can run all graphics in LOW RES, it stays around 50-60% for all tracks except Monaco when it jumps to 70-80%. It only reaches 90-100% when I crash really bad :) It would seem to me, we need to wait for the PIV 1GHz to run in HIGH RES ;) Jason.

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> Hi Everybody, > Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? > I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz > PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill > the 450 mhz chip comes out. > Regards, > Ralph

-- Jason Monds (Remove 'no spork' when replying)

I'm running a PII 400 with 64MB RAM and an 8MB ATI RAGE Pro. With sky textures turned off but everything else on and FPS at maximum, processor occupancy stays below 100% on all tracks except Monaco, with a slight slowdown at the start and when you enter the gravel. With a couple of mirror textures turned off, then no slowdowns at all. I can live without clouds in the sky or mirrors so would say go for it. With a 12MB Voodoo2 GPL looks smooth also....

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>Hi Everybody, >Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? >I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz >PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill >the 450 mhz chip comes out. >Regards, >Ralph

Never heard such bullshit... A PII 400 runs it MUCH better than a P200. A friend tested it and got 25fps full detail under 100% except at the start at Monaco and when using external viewpoints and when there's a lot of smoke. JoH Please remove *anti-spam* from the email when replying. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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|Hi Everybody, | |Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? |I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz |PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill |the 450 mhz chip comes out. | |Regards, |Ralph

Yes, frame rates around 25-26 with all details on. Russ

Hi Ralph ! RD> Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? RD> I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz RD> PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill RD> the 450 mhz chip comes out. This is a joke, isn't it ?? Would be a shame if a 3 year-old game wouldn't run on a PII 400 with all details :-/ Tststs...but BTW: why do you want to play GP II when there's F1RS. This game kicks ass and runs VERY smooth with ALL (!!!) details on my AMD K6 200/w Monster 3D ;-) Also, man mailt sich... .\\atze [ FmMW2109 - FmMB2139 ] *home* : http://www.home4u.de/buesing/

On Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:20:03 -0400, Ralph DeLauretis

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>Hi Everybody, >Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? >I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz >PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill >the 450 mhz chip comes out. >Regards, >Ralph

I have a PII-400, 256 meg ram, 3DFX card and the New Matrox G200 AGP card and with everything turned on it runs fine. Only Monaco has a slight glitch on turn 1 at the start with all cars running. It's better to burn out than to fade away!

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>Hi Everybody, >Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? >I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz >PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill >the 450 mhz chip comes out. >Regards, >Ralph

I run it on a Dell PII 350 mhz, 64 MB. It run's great with all details on. Formerly ran it on a 166 non MMX. There just is a world of difference. My advise : save a bit with the 350 compared with the 400, and get a Voodoo2 for 3dfx specific games. It won't matter in GP2 Regards Guy

It runs just fine on such a system. And if you even disable "sky"(who cares if there are clouds or not?) it runs like hell!

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>On Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:20:03 -0400, Ralph DeLauretis >>Hi Everybody, >>Has anyone played GP2 on a 400 mhz PII yet? How are the frame rates? >>I am in the market for a new computer and it all depends on if a 400 mhz >>PII can run GP2 with all of the details on. Or I'll just wait untill >>the 450 mhz chip comes out. >>Regards, >>Ralph >I have a PII-400, 256 meg ram, 3DFX card and the New Matrox G200 AGP >card and with everything turned on it runs fine. Only Monaco has a >slight glitch on turn 1 at the start with all cars running. >It's better to burn out than to fade away!

: It runs just fine on such a system. And if you even disable "sky"(who cares : if there are clouds or not?) it runs like hell! Although I turn it off to get the performance boost, I find it a shame. The sky definitely does add something to the atmosphere, even without weather effects. For one thing, the motion of the sky relative to the observer enhances the perception of motion. Also, it looks nice. It's a shame that they couldn't at least use a simple gradated fill for the sky, like they used to in the old flight sims, going from blue at the top to almost grey at the horizon. Much more realistic looking, and almost no effort to implement. The blank blue sky in GP2 and ICR2 (non rendition) looks like a piece of cardboard. Stephen

>>I've heard it's all programmed into the code. It's just not optimized for >>today's machines. A faster computer won't likely make a difference. >>I know I haven't noticed much of one. (This is all what I've heard around >>the net and talking to others too). Never heard such bullshit... and then Jo Helson said and now I say.... Because GP2 is a purely processor intensive game, graphics cards and MMX (not around when they made it) don't affect it. Therefore it should follow that a PII400 should run it at just over double the speed of a P200 (PII has a slightly better architecture but this doesn't help much). So if you play it on a PII 333 and see a PO of 200% you should be OK with a PII 666 :-) Me? - I'm still playing it on a CxPR166+ so spare a thought.... -- Michael C Wallace

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>: It runs just fine on such a system. And if you even disable "sky"(who cares >: if there are clouds or not?) it runs like hell! >Although I turn it off to get the performance boost, I find it a shame. >The sky definitely does add something to the atmosphere, even without >weather effects. For one thing, the motion of the sky relative to the >observer enhances the perception of motion. Also, it looks nice. >It's a shame that they couldn't at least use a simple gradated fill >for the sky, like they used to in the old flight sims, going from blue >at the top to almost grey at the horizon. Much more realistic looking, >and almost no effort to implement. The blank blue sky in GP2 and >ICR2 (non rendition) looks like a piece of cardboard. >Stephen

I was running at Spa today, with details at medium and the white puffy clouds scattered throughout the sky were nice to look at-must be the reason I was spinning so often.