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Voodoo2: N2 vs. F1RS performance (1st post was incomplete)

3 posts by 2 people · 30 Jul 1998 - 01 Aug 1998

Dave Ma 30 Jul 1998#415227
(sorry if a partial post of this was sent before) My basic question is, is N2 a more graphically-demanding sim than F1RS? (see below)... I've been running F1RS 1.09 for several months on this configuration: 300MHz PII 64MB RAM 12MB Orchid R3D-II (voodoo2) Turtle Beach A3D soundcard CH GameCard TSW and have been very impressed by how smooth the graphics are throughout the race. It seems like the framerate is always above the 30fps range, because I don't notice any choppiness (not even in the first turn). I have maximum graphics options turned on (including replays). I just installed N2 (50th anniversary edition) and its 3dfx patch last week. It does run, and I have followed the advice of several postings about setting up the batch file, changing the executable name, etc. etc. so that the patch will work. I'm running the batch file under a DOS window from Win95 instead of just rebooting into DOS and running it there, because N2 doesn't want to recognize my TSW when rebooting into DOS. Anyway, I'm less than thrilled with the framerate. I'd figured that with the system I have, the performance would be much smoother. I do have all the graphics options turned on, with the expectation that this system could handle it. N2-3dfx just seems to be noticeably slower than I'd have thought. I'm wondering if this is due to greater demands that N2 has, such as drawing so many cars at once. With F1RS, you'll usually only have a few cars on screen once the race really gets underway. With N2 you'll obviously be displaying many more cars much more frequently (on any of the ovals, anyway). I also haven't been able to find a website with significant details about how to maximize the performance of N2 with the 3dfx patch, while still being able to have most or all of the N2 graphics options turned on. TIA for any suggestions, Dave ============================ (remove "nospamfor_" for correspondence)
Greg Cisko 31 Jul 1998#415339
F1RS was made specifically for W95 and Glide (the 3dfx native programming). N2 was written for DOS with optimizations for the rendition 3D cards, and was ported to 3dfx. The result is kind of weak as you noted. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >(sorry if a partial post of this was sent before) >My basic question is, is N2 a more graphically-demanding sim than >F1RS? (see below)... >I've been running F1RS 1.09 for several months on this configuration: >300MHz PII >64MB RAM >12MB Orchid R3D-II (voodoo2) >Turtle Beach A3D soundcard >CH GameCard >TSW >and have been very impressed by how smooth the graphics are throughout >the race. It seems like the framerate is always above the 30fps >range, because I don't notice any choppiness (not even in the first >turn). I have maximum graphics options turned on (including replays). >I just installed N2 (50th anniversary edition) and its 3dfx patch last >week. It does run, and I have followed the advice of several postings >about setting up the batch file, changing the executable name, etc. >etc. so that the patch will work. I'm running the batch file under a >DOS window from Win95 instead of just rebooting into DOS and running >it there, because N2 doesn't want to recognize my TSW when rebooting >into DOS. >Anyway, I'm less than thrilled with the framerate. I'd figured that >with the system I have, the performance would be much smoother. I do >have all the graphics options turned on, with the expectation that >this system could handle it. N2-3dfx just seems to be noticeably >slower than I'd have thought. >I'm wondering if this is due to greater demands that N2 has, such as >drawing so many cars at once. With F1RS, you'll usually only have a >few cars on screen once the race really gets underway. With N2 you'll >obviously be displaying many more cars much more frequently (on any of >the ovals, anyway). >I also haven't been able to find a website with significant details >about how to maximize the performance of N2 with the 3dfx patch, while >still being able to have most or all of the N2 graphics options turned >on. >TIA for any suggestions, >Dave >============================ >(remove "nospamfor_" for correspondence)
Dave Ma 01 Aug 1998#415431
>F1RS was made specifically for W95 and Glide (the 3dfx >native programming). N2 was written for DOS with >optimizations for the rendition 3D cards, and was ported >to 3dfx. The result is kind of weak as you noted. Actually, I'm embarrased to admit, but I think it's me that's kind of weak. I just noticed in the "Graphics" screen in N2 that you can turn up the FPS to 30. Just now tried that, and lo and behold...nice and smooth graphics performance with the Voodoo2. Major-league-DOH! Sorry for the bandwidth-wastage of my earlier post, Dave ============================ Dave Mack (remove "nospamfor_" for correspondence)

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