TM Nascar Pro?

I've had my wheel for a few months and its great. If you do decide to get it,go over to TM's site and request springs for the wheel right away that way if they do give out,you wont have to wait for them. Good idea since they replace them for free. Excellent! Doug.

Hi gang! I've been racin' for about a year with the GP1 wheel and generally been pretty happy. Thrustmaster's support is excellent ( Thank's Alan! ) and the price can't be beat, however... ...last night I happened across the TM Nascar Pro wheel at Circuit City ($129.95 US) and was impressed with the feel of the wheel and the clamping system. My question is, to anyone with experience with this product, how do you like it? Is it as prone to breaking throttle springs as the T2 seems to be? TIA for the info! - -don "To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caricciola

I have had my Pro Wheel for about 9 months and the springs just gave out (took Thrustmaster 2 weeks to get me new springs). The new springs doesn't feel any better( can't say how they hold up cause I just got them) I have a couple inches of play in the steering (they gave me new bungee, But I have got them in yet) Check out Comp USA the had the wheel for $99 I think. Hope this helps, Scott Eslick ICQ# 3889251 Scott's Sim Site Http://host2.fptoday,com/scott :Hi gang! : :I've been racin' for about a year with the GP1 wheel and generally been pretty :happy. Thrustmaster's support is excellent ( Thank's Alan! ) and the price :can't be beat, however... : :...last night I happened across the TM Nascar Pro wheel at Circuit City :($129.95 US) and was impressed with the feel of the wheel and the clamping :system. My question is, to anyone with experience with this product, how do you :like it? Is it as prone to breaking throttle springs as the T2 seems to be? : :TIA for the info! : :- :-don : :"To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caricciola

The Nascar Pro Doesn't Have Springs In The Wheel Assembly.Iv'e Already Had To Take That Apart. As For The Pedals I'm Just Waiting For The "Opportunity" Peter Walker TPTCC - Team Bagus #51B (Nissan Primera) - Team Satu OSCAR ID: 1170 - Firebrand Division FB4 (Ford Taurus) TEN - Bagus51 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/8894/ http://ww2.customcpu.com/team_bagus/

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>I've had my wheel for a few months and its great. >If you do decide to get it,go over to TM's site and request springs for the >wheel right away that way if they do give out,you wont have to wait for >them. >Good idea since they replace them for free. >Excellent! >Doug. >>Hi gang! >>I've been racin' for about a year with the GP1 wheel and generally been >pretty >>happy. Thrustmaster's support is excellent ( Thank's Alan! ) and the price >>can't be beat, however... >>...last night I happened across the TM Nascar Pro wheel at Circuit City >>($129.95 US) and was impressed with the feel of the wheel and the clamping >>system. My question is, to anyone with experience with this product, how

do >you >>like it? Is it as prone to breaking throttle springs as the T2 seems to be? >>TIA for the info! >>- >>-don >>"To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caricciola

HIYA DPHll, WHY don' t you put another $100.00 with it and buy a wheel and pedal combo. that will last a life time with a life time warranty...... You won't have to wait on bungees and springs, PLEASE go to www.tsw2.com and look at pics. and see the TSW2, you won;t have to ever order a wheel and pedal set again. If I can answer any questions for you please let me know my address is on the web site. Bob Hawkins >Hi gang! >I've been racin' for about a year with the GP1 wheel and generally been pretty >happy. Thrustmaster's support is excellent ( Thank's Alan! ) and the price >can't be beat, however... >...last night I happened across the TM Nascar Pro wheel at Circuit City >($129.95 US) and was impressed with the feel of the wheel and the clamping >system. My question is, to anyone with experience with this product, how do you

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>like it? Is it as prone to breaking throttle springs as the T2 seems to be? >TIA for the info! >- >-don >"To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caricciola

pro wheel is great and if you email thrustmaster and tell them you need all replacement parts right away, you will have the spares handy to replace when they break. all parts easy to replace. dw

See my post below....

>HIYA DPHll, > WHY don' t you put another $100.00 with it and buy a wheel and pedal >combo. that will last a life time with a life time warranty...... You won't >have to wait on bungees and springs, PLEASE go to www.tsw2.com and look at >pics. and see the TSW2, you won;t have to ever order a wheel and pedal set >again. > If I can answer any questions for you please let me know my address is on >the web site. >Bob Hawkins Bob, This really starts to get annoying - EVERY time someone asks about a TM wheel you hype the TSW2, and act like $100 more isn't that much money (when it's TWICE the price you can get a TM Pro for). Wouldn't mind so much, except you ALWAYS harp on having to replace this, that and the other on the TM stuff. They send you the stuff for free and it seems easy to install, although personally never had to do diddly with my year-old GP1 and my NASCAR Pro has been solid. Sell YOUR product, leave the negative ads to the politicians, and you'd make a much better impression, on me, anyways. This comes across as just so much SPAM. This isn't a knock on TSW stuff, it get's great reviews, but I have been happy with TM stuff and feel it's great for the money. If money is no object, go for the TSW.

you go , brother dont be dissing the tm products... word up homey!!!!!!!!!!

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> Bob, > This really starts to get annoying - EVERY time someone asks about a TM > wheel you hype the TSW2, and act like $100 more isn't that much money (when > it's TWICE the price you can get a TM Pro for). Wouldn't mind so much, > except you ALWAYS harp on having to replace this, that and the other on the > TM stuff. They send you the stuff for free and it seems easy to install, > although personally never had to do diddly with my year-old GP1 and my > NASCAR Pro has been solid. Sell YOUR product, leave the negative ads to the > politicians, and you'd make a much better impression, on me, anyways. This > comes across as just so much SPAM.

It is SPAM. Have you been to that web site he plugs. "Hawk Enterprises, distributors of the TSW2". Pretty sneaky huh? -- Andrew Fielden. UK.

Yea,What they said. They look like modifierd TM stuff anyway. With a little ambition im sure I could do something like that and save $100.00 >> Bob, >> This really starts to get annoying - EVERY time someone asks about a TM >> wheel you hype the TSW2, and act like $100 more isn't that much money (when >> it's TWICE the price you can get a TM Pro for). Wouldn't mind so much, >> except you ALWAYS harp on having to replace this, that and the other on the >> TM stuff. They send you the stuff for free and it seems easy to install, >> although personally never had to do diddly with my year-old GP1 and my >> NASCAR Pro has been solid. Sell YOUR product, leave the negative ads to the >> politicians, and you'd make a much better impression, on me, anyways. This

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>> comes across as just so much SPAM. >It is SPAM. Have you been to that web site he plugs. "Hawk Enterprises, >distributors of the TSW2". Pretty sneaky huh? >-- >Andrew Fielden. >UK.

>Yea,What they said. >They look like modifierd TM stuff anyway. >With a little ambition im sure I could do something like that and save >$100.00 Hmmm ok... EVERYBODY WE HAVE A TROLL ALERT AHEAD !!! It's about time you learn a _little_ more about the SimRacing community Mr. Henry. Comparing a TSW to a Thrustmaster product is like saying that a Ferrari is similar to a Forti and with ambitions and $ you could do the same and save all the money Fiat gives to the Red team. Of course, you are probably a TM user who doesn't say a word when you wheel turn crap. "Well I will just spend another 100$ on another wheel". Made in Taiwan ? China ? hmm I don't recall Trevor living in Taiwan ;-P Hand made those Thrustmaster wheel ? Naw... 100% Life-time Guaranty those Thrustmaster wheel have ? Not even in my dreams - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Sorry, Hope you feel better.

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>>Yea,What they said. >>They look like modifierd TM stuff anyway. >>With a little ambition im sure I could do something like that and save >>$100.00 >Hmmm ok... >EVERYBODY WE HAVE A TROLL ALERT AHEAD !!! >It's about time you learn a _little_ more about the SimRacing community Mr. >Henry. >Comparing a TSW to a Thrustmaster product is like saying that a Ferrari is >similar to a Forti and with ambitions and $ you could do the same and save >all the money Fiat gives to the Red team. >Of course, you are probably a TM user who doesn't say a word when you wheel >turn crap. >"Well I will just spend another 100$ on another wheel". >Made in Taiwan ? China ? hmm I don't recall Trevor living in Taiwan ;-P >Hand made those Thrustmaster wheel ? Naw... >100% Life-time Guaranty those Thrustmaster wheel have ? Not even in my >dreams >- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club >- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Sorry about that. I just dont like their commercials after a post from Thrustmaster. And personally,I've never had a problem with TM products. Some people do and some people do not. Please dont try to tell us that evry TSW product is perfect and that if I buy one I'll never have to buy another product again. It would be nice. I e-mailed the company 2 months ago to see if I could get a copy of their warranty and still have not heard from them. Again I'm sorry but I would like to know if I'm about to get a commercial from TSW when I read about TM. Sincerly Doug Henry

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>>>Yea,What they said. >>>They look like modifierd TM stuff anyway. >>>With a little ambition im sure I could do something like that and save >>>$100.00 >>Hmmm ok... >>EVERYBODY WE HAVE A TROLL ALERT AHEAD !!! >>It's about time you learn a _little_ more about the SimRacing community

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>>Henry. >>Comparing a TSW to a Thrustmaster product is like saying that a Ferrari is >>similar to a Forti and with ambitions and $ you could do the same and save >>all the money Fiat gives to the Red team. >>Of course, you are probably a TM user who doesn't say a word when you

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>>turn crap. >>"Well I will just spend another 100$ on another wheel". >>Made in Taiwan ? China ? hmm I don't recall Trevor living in Taiwan ;-P >>Hand made those Thrustmaster wheel ? Naw... >>100% Life-time Guaranty those Thrustmaster wheel have ? Not even in my >>dreams >>- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >>- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >>- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club >>- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >>- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >>- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't

realise >>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

> Sorry about that. > I just dont like their commercials after a post from Thrustmaster. Doug, firstly we dont do commercials that I'm aware of, I dont consider a post from a satisfied customer or someone familiar with our product to be a commercial, if you do sorry. Glad to hear it :). TSWs may not be perfect but you will never need another wheel ever if you do buy one, you cannot wear one out. Apart from pot failure nothing ever breaks. There is no "copy of the warranty" it is plainly stated on our website and widely known that you get a 100% lifetime warranty, we repair anything that ever fails, no matter what or how. If you get mad at your wife and throw your unit out the window we still fix it free, no conditions and no questions asked ever. You very well may but it wont be me you get it from. Trev

I just found the latest CGW in my mailbox, with this headline in the first few pages ... "Porsche 911 GT1 BMW M3 Panoz Callaway Corvette Are you hard yet?" Thanks, *** Interactive, for this month's entirely stupid, juvenile adverti***t! Are y'all intentionally looking to***parents off? Regards, Kurt

My T2 still works fine and I use it as a backup to my TSW if i should ever need it. I have sent back my TM PRO so many times I said the hell with it. Its in the corner now with broken springs... 12 Springs in 6 months is crazy!!!! Don Wilshe

What about the feel of a TSW 2 versus the Thrustmaster? Is it a lot better Don or is the TSW 2 just more reliable? Thanks, Kerry Grant

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> My T2 still works fine and I use it as a backup to my TSW > if i should ever need it. > I have sent back my TM PRO so many times I said the > hell with it. Its in the corner now with broken springs... > 12 Springs in 6 months is crazy!!!! > Don Wilshe

>Thanks, *** Interactive, for this month's entirely stupid, juvenile >adverti***t! Are y'all intentionally looking to***parents off? CGW and the advertisers know their demographic, and it's not kids. It's 18-35 year old guys. 11-15 year old kids aren't reading that crap, and they don't want to spend 5 to 8 bucks on a magazine. They'd rather spend it on a Marilyn Manson or ***z 'Wit Hat's CD, and get some nice, wholesome entertainment. Eliminating words like "hard" and references to guys getting killed in car crashes 30 years ago won't change anything, nor is it even remotely offensive when compared to something 10,000 times more mainstream, like Beavis and Butthead (uh-huh-huh, he said hard) or South Park. If it offends you guys, don't read the magazine. If you really want to save the world, consider setting your sites a little higher than ad's video game magazines.

> .......and learn to spell properly as well. Don't ya' just hate that? ;) Cheers! Marc -- Marc J. Nelson The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

> If it offends you guys, don't read the magazine. > If you really want to save the world, consider setting your sites a > little higher than ad's video game magazines. .......and learn to spell properly as well. -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

LOL!! G'day Marc.

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> Don't ya' just hate that? ;) > Cheers! > Marc > -- > Marc J. Nelson > The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com > * No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

-- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

Well, I'm a different Don <g>, but since I went from a T2 to a TSW2, I can tell you there is a huge difference, I used to think the T2 was pretty smooth, especially after putting a new bungee in it, after having the TSW2, I can tell you the T2 is nowhere near smooth. My T2 served me well for 2 years, I even only went through 2 sets of springs, but I was ready for a step up, and for the price difference, the TSW2 was a huge step up. -- Don Burnette I-65 Racing Dburn on Ten AOLL Iroc Series Administrator http://pages.southtech.net/palmetto/aoll.htm >What about the feel of a TSW 2 versus the Thrustmaster? Is it a lot >better Don or is the TSW 2 just more reliable? >Thanks, >Kerry Grant >> My T2 still works fine and I use it as a backup to my TSW >> if i should ever need it. >> I have sent back my TM PRO so many times I said the >> hell with it. Its in the corner now with broken springs... >> 12 Springs in 6 months is crazy!!!! >> Don Wilshe

My TM wheel was handmade...sorta. I hear that people have trouble getting parts for the TM wheels but I never have (okay I did once but I didn't even get my automatic confirmation email that time. I bet there was a server problem.) about a month back I emailed them requesting parts for a complete overhaul (new springs, a new bungee, various other parts and some screws), as well as a steering pot. I got a personal email from them the next day stating that the parts would be send 2 day air mail, and sure enough 3 days later I got the parts (it took a day to process the order, and they said so in the email.) One problem...no pot. I emailed them last week when it got too bad to drive at all telling them that I got everything but the pot. Got the pot last night :) Just me I guess... Mike Frazer