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GPL & Win 98

13 posts by 8 people · 29 Jun 1998 - 02 Jul 1998

Matt Star 29 Jun 1998#412651
I have installed Windows 98 and have gotten GPL to work for the most part. The only problem is that when I take off in first gear and run it up to red line it is like I am doing 200+ mph. For some reason it has gone into turbo mode. I am trying to move back to Win95, but when I install my bus master drivers it gives me a general protection fault. I have a P2-400, 128 MB RAM, Viper V330 AGP video, Monster 3D II 12 MB, Abit BX6 board. Any ideas would be helpfull. thanks matt
Re-format the HDD and re-install W95. Drastic, and not what you wanted to hear, I know, but certainly the cleanest way to go. And remember....in future, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! > Any ideas would be helpfull. -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Quoted text (10 lines)> Re-format the HDD and re-install W95. > Drastic, and not what you wanted to hear, I know, but certainly the > cleanest way to go. > And remember....in future, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! > > Any ideas would be helpfull.
Why the change of heart Bruce? ;) -- Andrew Fielden. UK.
Matt Star 29 Jun 1998#412654
Re-formatting the hard disk in not a problem. I am having problems getting the bus master stuff working on my board after I install my video card drivers. I am running a BX6 and Viper V330. matt
Quoted text (17 lines)> Re-format the HDD and re-install W95. > Drastic, and not what you wanted to hear, I know, but certainly the > cleanest way to go. > And remember....in future, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! > > Any ideas would be helpfull. > -- > Regards, > Bruce. > ---------- > The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- > http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Hate to tell you Matt, but I think you need an upgrade pretty badly! No way that outdated hardware can run a super OS like Win 98.
Quoted text (15 lines)> I have installed Windows 98 and have gotten GPL to work for the most > part. The only problem is that when I take off in first gear and run it > up to red line it is like I am doing 200+ mph. For some reason it has > gone into turbo mode. > I am trying to move back to Win95, but when I install my bus master > drivers it gives me a general protection fault. > I have a P2-400, 128 MB RAM, Viper V330 AGP video, Monster 3D II 12 MB, > Abit BX6 board. > Any ideas would be helpfull. > thanks > matt
Zonky 30 Jun 1998#412729
>Re-formatting the hard disk in not a problem. I am having problems >getting the bus master stuff working on my board after I install my >video card drivers. I am running a BX6 and Viper V330. Your BX Motherbaoprd should ahve come with a CD, with patch fiels for your win95 inf's. I take it you have installed these?
Quoted text (22 lines)>matt >> Re-format the HDD and re-install W95. >> Drastic, and not what you wanted to hear, I know, but certainly the >> cleanest way to go. >> And remember....in future, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! >> > Any ideas would be helpfull. >> -- >> Regards, >> Bruce. >> ---------- >> The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- >> http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
No change of heart......if a user already has W95 and it's running okay (well, "as well as can be expected", as they say in hospitals!) then my advice is to leave it alone. If a user has bought a new computer then it is going to have W98 included and, if so, there is little likelihood of the user reverting to an OS that has been superseded. My previous post simply pointed out that yes, GPL can be run under W98.....it didn't advocate changing to W98! :o) > Why the change of heart Bruce? ;) -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Sorry, Matt, but I have no suggested solution for that as I haven't yet come across that particular problem. > Re-formatting the hard disk in not a problem. I am having problems > getting the bus master stuff working on my board after I install my > video card drivers. I am running a BX6 and Viper V330. -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Andy Thil 30 Jun 1998#412732
Why are you installing bus master drivers???, the microsoft ones are more than adequate.
Zonky 01 Jul 1998#412810
>Why are you installing bus master drivers???, the microsoft ones are more >than adequate. Do you use the default SVGA drivers that come with win95/98?
Matt Star 01 Jul 1998#412811
Win 95 does not know how to handle the PCI bridge, AGP, UDMA, or the BX chipset by itself. One needs to install the drivers that came with the motherboard so that thigs work properly. I can live without the bus mastering, but it is slower without it. The bus mastering enables the UDMA which allows almost twice the burst transfer rate. matt > Why are you installing bus master drivers???, the microsoft ones are more > than adequate.
Paul Jone 02 Jul 1998#412881
Matt, My understanding was that you could get by without Bus Mastering and that sometimes all it acheives is to use up a valuable IRQ. However I did install it for a friend and it didn't use an IRQ. I think the Intel site has all the appropriate drivers. Try [link lost in import] to tell you all you need to know. The Intel site is a gigantic maze the drivers are there somewhere but I can't be bothered to find them right now. PJ
Quoted text (26 lines)> Re-formatting the hard disk in not a problem. I am having problems > getting the bus master stuff working on my board after I install my > video card drivers. I am running a BX6 and Viper V330. > matt > > Re-format the HDD and re-install W95. > > Drastic, and not what you wanted to hear, I know, but certainly the > > cleanest way to go. > > And remember....in future, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! > > > Any ideas would be helpfull. > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce. > > ---------- > > The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- > > http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
> Matt, > My understanding was that you could get by without Bus Mastering and that > sometimes all it acheives is to use up a valuable IRQ. However I did > install it for a friend and it didn't use an IRQ. Not true. Busmastering gives higher transfer rates for UDMA drives and most importantly ( for me ) much lower CPU usage. All you overclocked guys WANT the lowest CPU usage possible. Using a benchmark program designed to measure cpu usage for direct to hard drive recording , I went from 50% cpu usage to below 5% just by using busmastering drivers. Don't be too quick to condemn the M/S Win98 drivers.Using the Intel B/M drivers designed for my MoBo I got 7-9 % CPU usage . With the Win98 Standard Dual PCI driver I'm getting below 5 % !!!I have not found a good test program for tranfer rate yet but all my benchmarking programs show slightly better results with the Standard Dual PCI driver.I did upgrade to Win98 with minimal problems ( my Thriller 3d didn't work but Hercules released a new driver yesterday that fixed it ) and yes my GPL now won't work but I was getting tired of lapping Watkin's Glen alone and I'm sure the final release will address the Win98 issue so I can wait. Think long and hard about forgoing the benifits of Busmastering just so you can play a one track, one car demo ( even though it's the best sim ever ). Visit the RXspeed7 site at ... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7177/

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