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OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

8 posts by 4 people · 15 Mar 2004 01:12 UTC - 16 Mar 2004 14:57 UTC

Dave Henrie 15 Mar 2004 01:12 UTC#41223
Well that low life piece of soapscum that owns Indy failed in his attempt to buy the CART leftovers. So now he's poaching the individual teams of OWRS...good bye Fernandez... dave henrie
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well that low life piece of soapscum that owns Indy failed in his > attempt to buy the CART leftovers. So now he's poaching the individual > teams of OWRS...good bye Fernandez... Gee Dave, maybe Adrian wants to actually race this year. ;-) ;-) ;-) -jde --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.619 / Virus Database: 398 - Release Date: 3/10/2004
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:10:22 -0500, "J.D. Ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Gee Dave, maybe Adrian wants to actually race this year. ;-) ;-) ;-) Fernandez is in full-on Al Unser Jr mode. That point where it's been so long since you've been competitive that you're willing to race in front of 10,000 people on ovals instead of 300,000 at your home track. Jason
"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:10:22 -0500, "J.D. Ellis" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Gee Dave, maybe Adrian wants to actually race this year. ;-) ;-) ;-) > > Fernandez is in full-on Al Unser Jr mode. That point where it's been > so long since you've been competitive that you're willing to race in > front of 10,000 people on ovals instead of 300,000 at your home track.
There's also the novel thought that, being a team owner, he has numerous families counting on the team's continued existence. If no one wants to ante up to sponsor the team in a series that seems precarious at best, then why not take the route that allows the team to continue operation as-is. The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-) -jde --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.619 / Virus Database: 398 - Release Date: 3/10/2004
> attempt to buy the CART leftovers. So now he's poaching the individual > teams of OWRS...good bye Fernandez... > AF already had a foot in both camps. I suspect the fact that his sponsors wanted to get seen on TV in more then a 16 car grid might have played a factor.
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "J.D. Ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-) Are you implying the series with the higher attendance by a factor of 10 is losing? =) Jason
"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "J.D. Ellis" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-) > > Are you implying the series with the higher attendance by a factor of > 10 is losing? =)
Considering said series appears to be on very shaky ground, yes. :-) A month from Long Beach, and the promoter is worried about exactly how many cars OWRS might rustle up, or whether he should pursue a last-minute swap to GA, vintage, etc. While CART had the superior product, they did as much damage to themselves through mismanagement and arrogance as Tony George did burning through his inheritance and the Indy mystique. All they accomplished was aiding NASCAR's ascension in the public eye. I don't give much of a crap either way these days. They both have issues, and this now 8 yr pissing match got old 5 yrs ago. The only reason I went to Mid-Ohio's CART weekend last year was to watch SPEED Touring Car. ;-) It's all quite sad considering all the fond CART memories I have from growing up. :-( -jde --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.619 / Virus Database: 398 - Release Date: 3/10/2004
[email hidden] (Jason Moyer) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "J.D. Ellis" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-) > > Are you implying the series with the higher attendance by a factor of > 10 is losing? =) >
Sponsors don't give a hoot about on-track attendance (except maybe for atmosphere), they're interested in TV viewing audience. Sponsor's decide were racers race. I've noticed over the last couple of years that the TV directors at both IRL and CART events have been pretty careful not to do too many wide shots of events where the attendance is poor, lot's of tight track shots. But they make a BIG fuss when CART went to Canada and Mexico and the stands were full.

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