Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod.
It kinda of ruins it for me.
GTR cockpit screenshots spark gauge debate
New screenshots of SimBin's GTR prompted Badmuther to complain about digital gauges. Others showed that modern FIA GT race cars use digital dash units, noting that his counterexample was a 1994 road car interior. The thread also shared a GTR sound sample and discussed pedal and gearbox designs in GT cars.
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> Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod.
> It kinda of ruins it for me.
I can't find any cockpit screenshots. You're not just talking about the HUD
in the arcade mode screen shot are you? The screenshots look superb so far.
It's nice to see a far more natural looking colour palette than the old mods
had.
> Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod.
> It kinda of ruins it for me.
http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/GTR/screenshots/12.jpg
OK, I found it. I hate to break it to you, but real GT cars don't have
analogue gauges. Nor do V8 Supercars or European Touring cars. Why on
earth would it matter anyway? I'm not sure why Nascars have analogue
gauges. I guess rednecks aren't known for being electronically savvy. =D
<ducks>
"Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod.
> > It kinda of ruins it for me.
>
> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/sims/GTR/screenshots/12.jpg
>
> OK, I found it. I hate to break it to you, but real GT cars don't have
I hate to break this to you . Your wrong. How many GTR races have you been
too.
Lotus, vipers most all have analog gauges come to think of it name a GTR car
that don't.
Note the digital gauges on this fine GTR Lamborghini
Diablo............whoops...... whats that no can't be.....damn
analog gauges
http://www.memphismotorwerks.com/slides/1994%20Lamborghini%20Diablo%20VT%20interior.html
If what you say is true about the analog guages, I don't know why the
developers would have made them digital instead.
They're obviously wanting to recreate the whole thing as accurately as
possible. They have access to the cars.. they know what they're doing.
Implementing analog guages isn't really harder to do.. if they did digital,
maybe the displays are digital?
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
"Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod.
> It kinda of ruins it for me.
>
>
"Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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hmmm first clue...1994. 2nd clue...radio/air conditioning. 3rd
clue...2point safetybelts. 4th clue Upolstered seats, carpeting,
floormats. This my friend is a street car, and an OLD one at that. It
can in NO WAY be used as justification of what kind of dashboard
components are used in 2003 FIA GT racing vehicles.
You could have made just as much logic with two pictures of a DUCK and
CHURCH and said they were equal.
Now I for one do not have access to FIA GT racing cars. But darnit
all, the SBDT AE boys do. I would imagine they would have at least
photos of the privateer team of Henrik Roos.(their partner) so perhaps
somebody else here can link us some photos of 2003 cockpits. And
preferably more than just one team, brand, or class.
dave henrie
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> Note the digital gauges on this fine GTR Lamborghini > Diablo............whoops...... whats that no can't be.....damn > analog gauges > > > http://www.memphismotorwerks.com/slides/1994%20Lamborghini%20Diablo%20V > T%20interior.html > >"Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:-8GdnQyzj876MMrdRVn-
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> Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod.
> It kinda of ruins it for me.
>
>
I see an electronic dash unit that has been standard issue to Porche
club racers for probably more than a decade. Now the real question is.
Does the rpm lights go up one at a time or in 4 clumped groups like f1c et
al? If each individual bar lights up, then you have a true analog guage
with digital reports.
dave henrie
"Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> Note the digital gauges on this fine GTR Lamborghini
> Diablo............whoops...... whats that no can't be.....damn
> analog gauges
>
>
> http://www.memphismotorwerks.com/slides/1994%20Lamborghini%20Diablo%20VT%20interior.html
Yeah - in a 1994(!) street model interior - or are FIA GT race cars
coming with leather interiors these days ;)?
If *anyone* is committed to realism its SBDT - and they do have direct
access to the current FIA GT tour cars. I think I'll trust thier
vision of the car interiors ;).
Kendt
In game sound sample:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=166021
just shows how crappy sound was in previous racing games I guess.
Dave Henrie wrote:
I'm slightly confused by this talk of analogue dashboards, am I right in
thinking that any cockpit which uses dials and gauges won't have the means
to gather accurate telemetry?
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Fillyourboots
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> "Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:-8GdnQyzj876MMrdRVn- > [email hidden]: > >> Well still no analog gauges the same digital gauges as in their mod. >> It kinda of ruins it for me. >> >> > > I see an electronic dash unit that has been standard issue to > Porche club racers for probably more than a decade. Now the real > question is. Does the rpm lights go up one at a time or in 4 clumped > groups like f1c et al? If each individual bar lights up, then you > have a true analog guage with digital reports. > > dave henrie"Fillyourboots" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> I'm slightly confused by this talk of analogue dashboards, am I right
> in thinking that any cockpit which uses dials and gauges won't have
> the means to gather accurate telemetry?
>
> ++
> Fillyourboots
Telemetry has been around a lot longer than digital dashes. I haven't
seen the GTR feature set to know if they plan on using telemtry. But the
type of guage(or clocks as some Euro's might say) would not impede the
gathering and saving of telemetry. It's more of a visual imersion item
than anything else.
dave henrie
"Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> Note the digital gauges on this fine GTR Lamborghini
> Diablo............whoops...... whats that no can't be.....damn
> analog gauges
>
>
> http://www.memphismotorwerks.com/slides/1994%20Lamborghini%20Diablo%20VT%20interior.html
I followed links to Team pages from FIA's GT page, www.fiagt.com.
These pictures I found:
http://www.care-racing.com/images/gallery/2003/2003_alms_sebring_19.jpg
http://www.care-racing.com/images/gallery/2003/2003_fiagt_barcelona_08.jpg
http://www.listercars.co.uk/gallery/picture37.htm
http://www.zwaansracing.nl/photodetail.php?id=59
Are you sure you're not thinking of the road-going versions?
"TiR" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�
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> I followed links to Team pages from FIA's GT page, www.fiagt.com.
> These pictures I found:
> http://www.care-racing.com/images/gallery/2003/2003_alms_sebring_19.jpg
Couple of slightly unrelated observations from that picture... the pedals
seem to be swiveled from the floor, and the gear lever indicates that there
is a sequential gearbox. Does anyone know if this is the way it's done in
all FIA GT cars? And are they able to shift (up) without the clutch?
"Jussi 'Igor' Koukku" wrote...
> > <snip>
> Couple of slightly unrelated observations from that
> picture... the pedals seem to be swiveled from the
> floor, and the gear lever indicates that there is a
> sequential gearbox. Does anyone know if this is the
> way it's done in all FIA GT cars?
I would imagine the pedals of most purpose built racing cars are swiveled
from the floor, FIA GT cars being no exception and I don't know about this
season, but up until last some cars featured sequential gearboxes, while
others had an H-pattern style shiter.
Note the picture is one of the GT category in the ALMS series, which do have
a slightly different technical spec than the FIA GT series.
> And are they able to shift (up) without the clutch?
Yes. I don't know if they're allowed semi-automatic shifting, but it can be
done, even "manually".
Jan.
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Very exiting ending...
You are hilarious.
Marc
"Badmuther #1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Note the digital gauges on this fine GTR Lamborghini
> Diablo............whoops...... whats that no can't be.....damn
> analog gauges
>
>
>http://www.memphismotorwerks.com/slides/1994%20Lamborghini%20Diablo%20VT%20interior.html
>
>
>
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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have
> a slightly different technical spec than the FIA GT series.
>
> > And are they able to shift (up) without the clutch?
>
> Yes. I don't know if they're allowed semi-automatic shifting, but it canbe
> done, even "manually".
>
Don't know the FIA-GT rules, but they are allowed semi-auto in ALMS. I
recall an interview with Johnny O'Connell last season where he was talking
about the then-new paddle shifters in the Corvette. All the other GTS cars
I've seen up close (including the Prodrive Ferraris) use sequential boxes
and an ignition cutout on the shifter so they can upshift without lifting or
using the clutch.
SB
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> "Jussi 'Igor' Koukku" wrote... > > > <snip> > > Couple of slightly unrelated observations from that > > picture... the pedals seem to be swiveled from the > > floor, and the gear lever indicates that there is a > > sequential gearbox. Does anyone know if this is the > > way it's done in all FIA GT cars? > > I would imagine the pedals of most purpose built racing cars are swiveled > from the floor, FIA GT cars being no exception and I don't know about this > season, but up until last some cars featured sequential gearboxes, while > others had an H-pattern style shiter. > > Note the picture is one of the GT category in the ALMS series, which doI just posted some in car FIA GT cockpit shots.. as you can see the
SIMBIN guys are spot on !!!
if you can't view this link , let me know and I'll up them to the bin
group..
http://community.vugames.com/WebX?[email hidden]@.f0196c9
rich8
if you all can't get to that link I can email this image to somone who
has space to host it...
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> if you all can't get to that link I can email this image to somone who
> has space to host it...
>
No go from here.
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