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Im a happy boy now !!!!!

19 posts by 9 people · 23 May 1998 - 02 Jun 1998

Todd 23 May 1998#409236
This might not mean much to a lot of people out there but I went under 108 for the first time today and that means a hell of a lot to me. For the last week I have been stuck on 108.00 , 108 flat how cruel is that it might as well have been 108.99. So now Im in the race 107.87 is only a second off the fast pace and since I am on a p133 with a p2 just around the corner I am content now in the knowledge that I can drive this car to the max. One thing I have noticed is that I can do constant laps in the mid 108 with out a problem but in order to go faster than my best I have to constantly crash. Well Im ready to race something other than myself, so bring it on Papyrus! Todd.
Mika Takala 23 May 1998#409237
I did the exactly the same time too yesterday. I'm very happy too. I have a p200MMX with Rendition Verite v1000, but if I'd only get a voodoo2 to it I'd be some 4 tenths faster.
Cane 23 May 1998#409238
I bet you 2 both have wheels too. Poor people like me who only have Keyboards and shite joysticks can only dream of laps like that.
Quoted text (8 lines)>I did the exactly the same time too yesterday. I'm very happy too. >I have a p200MMX with Rendition Verite v1000, but if I'd only get a voodoo2 >to it I'd be some 4 tenths faster. >>This might not mean much to a lot of people out there but I went under 108 >>for the first time today and that means a hell of a lot to me. For the
last
Quoted text (11 lines)>>week I have been stuck on 108.00 , 108 flat how cruel is that it might as >>well have been 108.99. >> So now Im in the race 107.87 is only a second off the fast pace and since >I >>am on a p133 with a p2 just around the corner I am content now in the >>knowledge that I can drive this car to the max. >> One thing I have noticed is that I can do constant laps in the mid 108 >with >>out a problem but in order to go faster than my best I have to constantly >>crash. >> Well Im ready to race something other than myself, so bring it on
Papyrus! >> Todd.
>I bet you 2 both have wheels too. >Poor people like me who only have Keyboards and shite joysticks can only >dream of laps like that. Well actually I have driven my fastest laps with a joystick and my pedals. The Joystick is much faster for correcting slides. So if you got yourself a pair of pedals, then you could be flying :) btw: my joystick is just a piece of sh#t $15 thing, nothing fancy :) my pedals (and wheel) is a Trustmaster Formula 1 Pro. Cant wait go get my hands on the Nordschleife :)))) cheers rp
Todd 24 May 1998#409284
>I bet you 2 both have wheels too. >Poor people like me who only have Keyboards and shite joysticks can only >dream of laps like that. I sure do, made it myself out of a wooden box, a hub from the front wheel of a bicycle the wheel is a pulley from the bottom of a twin tub washing machine and I use mouse traps as springs for peddle returns. The wiring and buttons came from an old broken joystick, so all up it cost me nothing. Do yourself a favour build one . Todd.
Cane 24 May 1998#409285
Are you serious?
Quoted text (10 lines)>>I bet you 2 both have wheels too. >>Poor people like me who only have Keyboards and shite joysticks can only >>dream of laps like that. > I sure do, made it myself out of a wooden box, a hub from the front wheel >of a bicycle the wheel is a pulley from the bottom of a twin tub washing >machine and I use mouse traps as springs for peddle returns. The wiring and >buttons came from an old broken joystick, so all up it cost me nothing. > Do yourself a favour build one . > Todd.
Mika Takala 24 May 1998#409286
And I have a Thrustmaster Formula 1 Racing Wheel. I had a spring broken on the gas pedal and it took 2 weeks to the importer to break a new one and send a spring to me. I would have lasted forever to ask one from Thrustmaster. Have you custom-built wheel owners any broblems? In that two weeks I drove both with keyboard and joystick and got awful times with them. EVERYONE SHOULD BUY A WHEEL.
Quoted text (10 lines)>>I bet you 2 both have wheels too. >>Poor people like me who only have Keyboards and shite joysticks can only >>dream of laps like that. > I sure do, made it myself out of a wooden box, a hub from the front wheel >of a bicycle the wheel is a pulley from the bottom of a twin tub washing >machine and I use mouse traps as springs for peddle returns. The wiring and >buttons came from an old broken joystick, so all up it cost me nothing. > Do yourself a favour build one . > Todd.
>Are you serious? You took the words right out of my mouth... LOL!! -- Best, Edwin Solheim >> I sure do, made it myself out of a wooden box, a hub from the front wheel >>of a bicycle the wheel is a pulley from the bottom of a twin tub washing >>machine and I use mouse traps as springs for peddle returns. The wiring and >>buttons came from an old broken joystick, so all up it cost me nothing.
Todd 25 May 1998#409373
>Are you serious? You bet Im serious. How many joysticks and wheels have people been through. Due to the strains placed on them, even the most expensive ones are going to break quite often if you use them enough, so you are going to have to learn to repair them when they break anyway. Once you get inside them you see that there is very little involved in making your own, which you can build a robust as possible so that you wont have the problems of a commercial wheel. Todd.
Trips 26 May 1998#409461
> In that two weeks I drove both with keyboard and joystick and got awful > times with them. EVERYONE SHOULD BUY A WHEEL. I can go 2 seconds faster with my stick than with a wheel at the Glen in Nascar2, and about 3 seconds faster with the stick at the Glen in GPL. The wheel may not be for everybody. Trips
Quoted text (7 lines)> > In that two weeks I drove both with keyboard and joystick and got awful > > times with them. EVERYONE SHOULD BUY A WHEEL. > I can go 2 seconds faster with my stick than with a wheel at the Glen in > Nascar2, and about 3 seconds faster with the stick at the Glen in GPL. > The wheel may not be for everybody.
That's okay, if your only interest is the fastest lap time. I prefer to get the most complete experience of driving a car on my PC, so I wouldn't fly a plane with the mouse, nor would I drive a car with a joystick. l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Trips 27 May 1998#409557
> That's okay, if your only interest is the fastest lap time. I prefer to > get the most complete experience of driving a car on my PC, so I > wouldn't > fly a plane with the mouse, nor would I drive a car with a joystick. That's a good point... I don't always feel "immersed" in driving sims using a joystick, but I haven't found a wheel setup yet that's comfortable for me. I have been experimenting with a TM GP1/CH pedal combination at the office lately, and I've been pretty happy with the results... Trips
Quoted text (9 lines)> > In that two weeks I drove both with keyboard and joystick and got awful > > times with them. EVERYONE SHOULD BUY A WHEEL. > I can go 2 seconds faster with my stick than with a wheel at the Glen in > Nascar2, and about 3 seconds faster with the stick at the Glen in GPL. > The wheel may not be for everybody. > Trips
Quite a few of the follow up posts to this one say that the joystick is quicker, but not as 'real', therefore fun. I agree here. I've just got myself a F1 Sim Compact wheel, and after about 30 laps, I'm 3 secs off my best joystick times (a bit more practice will fix that). What I find is that I like the pedals a lot more with GPL, instead of controlling the throttle and brake with the joystick. It's just that the steering is not responsive enough at times. Just another point, GPL with a steering wheel is (initially) harder having started with a joystick, but F1RS is easier. Strange. Anyway, I'll still be sticking to a wheel. Gavin University of Wales, Swansea. FORZA FERRARI - GO EDDIE!!!!
Trips 27 May 1998#409559
> Quite a few of the follow up posts to this one say that the joystick is > quicker, but not as 'real', therefore fun. > I agree here. I have to agree too... I use a wheel at work and a stick at home, and the wheel is definitely a more immersive experience. I'd never want to control throttle and brake with the stick... i've tried that exactly once, and it felt horrible. My setup at home is a Thrustmaster F22 Pro stick which I use for steering (and shifting on one of the hats) and a Thrustmaster TQS throttle for throttle and brake. I'm much happier with the CH pedals at work tho... they allow for throttle and brake on independent axes, a BIG plus in my opinion. Trips
Quoted text (11 lines)> > That's okay, if your only interest is the fastest lap time. I prefer to > > get the most complete experience of driving a car on my PC, so I > > wouldn't > > fly a plane with the mouse, nor would I drive a car with a joystick. > That's a good point... I don't always feel "immersed" in driving sims > using a joystick, but I haven't found a wheel setup yet that's > comfortable for me. > I have been experimenting with a TM GP1/CH pedal combination at the > office lately, and I've been pretty happy with the results...
After TM T1, T2, CH Virtual Pro/CH Pedals I finally arrived at the same combo you mention... ;^) Just the wheel paddels for F1 style shifting are what made me like it most. l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Trips 28 May 1998#409689
Quoted text (8 lines)> > I have been experimenting with a TM GP1/CH pedal combination at the > > office lately, and I've been pretty happy with the results... > After TM T1, T2, CH Virtual Pro/CH Pedals I finally arrived at the same > combo you mention... ;^) > Just the wheel paddels for F1 style shifting are what made me like it > most.
My office machine can't "see" the paddles when the GP1 is connected to the CH pedals, I use the buttons for shifting. Interestingly enough, I believe I did have it working with both the pedals and the paddles funtioning together at home... the only real difference is that the home machine uses an old Soundblaster16 and the office box uses an Ensoniq AudioPCI... I wonder if the gameport on the Ensoniq is not 100% standard... Trips
Quoted text (17 lines)> > > I have been experimenting with a TM GP1/CH pedal combination at the > > > office lately, and I've been pretty happy with the results... > > After TM T1, T2, CH Virtual Pro/CH Pedals I finally arrived at the same > > combo you mention... ;^) > > Just the wheel paddels for F1 style shifting are what made me like it > > most. > My office machine can't "see" the paddles when the GP1 is connected to > the CH pedals, I use the buttons for shifting. > Interestingly enough, I believe I did have it working with both the > pedals and the paddles funtioning together at home... the only real > difference is that the home machine uses an old Soundblaster16 and the > office box uses an Ensoniq AudioPCI... I wonder if the gameport on the > Ensoniq is not 100% standard...
Soundcard clones have their problems, but I don't think they will*** up the game port ;^) You have to use a user defined joystick setting in Win95 (4-axis, 4 buttons), then it really should work... l8re ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
% > In that two weeks I drove both with keyboard and joystick and got awful % > times with them. EVERYONE SHOULD BUY A WHEEL. % I can go 2 seconds faster with my stick than with a wheel at the Glen in % Nascar2, and about 3 seconds faster with the stick at the Glen in GPL. % The wheel may not be for everybody. Too each their own. But, I prefer to "stick" with a wheel over a stick for this very reason. I think that using a wheel is more realistic. The small travel of a stick makes for an "unfair" advantage that I feel is "unrealistic". This does not mean that I think those using a stick are cheating, but I'm into racing sims because they simulate racing cars and I haven't found an auto sim on the market that simulates real racing cars that come equipped with a joystick for steering. Someday though..... ;-) -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Trips 02 Jun 1998#410089
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Interestingly enough, I believe I did have it working with both the > > pedals and the paddles funtioning together at home... the only real > > difference is that the home machine uses an old Soundblaster16 and the > > office box uses an Ensoniq AudioPCI... I wonder if the gameport on the > > Ensoniq is not 100% standard... > Soundcard clones have their problems, but I don't think they will*** > up the game port ;^) > You have to use a user defined joystick setting in Win95 (4-axis, 4 > buttons), > then it really should work...
Hmm... I'm pretty sure I tried 4 axis 4 button, with the CH pedal switch in both the "Plane" position and in the "Car" position... just said "Not Connected" tho. I just got back from a trip to Boston, my GP1 wound up staying behind there... (My girlfriend's brother wanted it, and I've been looking for an excuse to try my hand at building a wheel) Trips

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