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RASF1: Proposal and question

16 posts by 7 people · 23 Mar 2004 02:24 UTC - 27 Mar 2004 23:20 UTC

Ped Xing 23 Mar 2004 02:24 UTC#40693
1: Out of 7 cars that made the starting grid at Malaysia, 5 were Ferrari. I don't know about you, but I think it'd be nice to have some variety on the grid. It would also help to identify different drivers. Anyway, since it wouldn't be fair to force people into slower cars, why don't we just run with all cars physics set to the best car (Ferrari), and that way there is no penalty for running in a different team. F1RST2 provides this option for setting car physics equal. 2: Eldred will be out of town when the next race is scheduled, so is there anyone who can step forward to host? I just tested my connection and it gave a result of 198 kbps for the upload speed, but I don't know how many clients that would allow me to support. Also, since Bahrain hasn't been released, we should decide on an alternate. I suggest A1 Ring since it won't be on the real F1 calendar this season. -- Ped Xing
I'm going back to Jaguar for the next race...I just decided that I wasn't good enough to stay in the Ferrari so I'll go back to the understeering POS. I second A1 just because its in the game. Maybe for shanghi we can run an add-on track of some sort. I downloaded Paul Ricard but haven't been able to test it at all. "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > 1: Out of 7 cars that made the starting grid at Malaysia, 5 were Ferrari. > I don't know about you, but I think it'd be nice to have some variety on > the grid. It would also help to identify different drivers. Anyway,since > it wouldn't be fair to force people into slower cars, why don't we justrun > with all cars physics set to the best car (Ferrari), and that way there is > no penalty for running in a different team. F1RST2 provides this option > for setting car physics equal. > > 2: Eldred will be out of town when the next race is scheduled, so isthere
Quoted text (8 lines)> anyone who can step forward to host? I just tested my connection and it > gave a result of 198 kbps for the upload speed, but I don't know how many > clients that would allow me to support. Also, since Bahrain hasn't been > released, we should decide on an alternate. I suggest A1 Ring since it > won't be on the real F1 calendar this season. > > -- > Ped Xing
In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (7 lines)>1: Out of 7 cars that made the starting grid at Malaysia, 5 were Ferrari. >I don't know about you, but I think it'd be nice to have some variety on >the grid. It would also help to identify different drivers. Anyway, since >it wouldn't be fair to force people into slower cars, why don't we just run >with all cars physics set to the best car (Ferrari), and that way there is >no penalty for running in a different team. F1RST2 provides this option >for setting car physics equal.
Does that also affect setups as well? Meaning, would a setup on one type of car transfer to another? The only reason I drove a Ferrari in the past couple races was that the Ferrari was the only setup I could find. I used David's for Australia, and Ian's for Malaysia. If I had found a good setup for the Williams I probably would have stayed in that car. If the 'setting physics the same' allows that, then I'm all for it. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
Ped Xing wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> 1: Out of 7 cars that made the starting grid at Malaysia, 5 were Ferrari. > I don't know about you, but I think it'd be nice to have some variety on > the grid. It would also help to identify different drivers. Anyway, since > it wouldn't be fair to force people into slower cars, why don't we just run > with all cars physics set to the best car (Ferrari), and that way there is > no penalty for running in a different team. F1RST2 provides this option > for setting car physics equal.
That doesn't bother me, but I'll change to a non- Ferrari if everyone wants to do this. I have wished for individual helmet paint jobs to help identify drivers in replays. Isn't setting car physics equal going to be a problem for people who have honed their skills and setups for Williams or some other car? Perhaps the person who won last season should choose a car/driver, and work down the list. I'm driving the original carset. I'd like to update to 2004. Is this something that is done on an individual basis? Or does this require all drivers use the same carset? What carset do you folks recommend? > 2: Eldred will be out of town when the next race is scheduled, so is there > anyone who can step forward to host? I just tested my connection and it > gave a result of 198 kbps for the upload speed, but I don't know how many > clients that would allow me to support. Also, since Bahrain hasn't been > released, we should decide on an alternate. I suggest A1 Ring since it > won't be on the real F1 calendar this season. Or Bathurst? That should be a challenging track. Larry
[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Does that also affect setups as well? Meaning, would a setup on one > type of car transfer to another? The only reason I drove a Ferrari in > the past couple races was that the Ferrari was the only setup I could > find. I used David's for Australia, and Ian's for Malaysia. If I had > found a good setup for the Williams I probably would have stayed in > that car. Actually, the setups I've been using are 'tailored' for Ferrari, but I've been driving the Williams. You might have to change the gearing, especially for those cars which only have 6 gears, but on the whole it seems fine. It won't be an issue though, since most setups are tailored for the Ferrari, and we'd be running Ferrari physics for all cars. What do the others think, sound good? -- Ped Xing
"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:mwN7c.50712$[email hidden]: > I'm going back to Jaguar for the next race...I just decided that I > wasn't good enough to stay in the Ferrari so I'll go back to the > understeering POS. With my suggestion, you won't see a drop in performance. > I second A1 just because its in the game. Maybe for shanghi we can run > an add-on track of some sort. I downloaded Paul Ricard but haven't > been able to test it at all. An add-on would be interesting. Another idea is to run the long version of Hockenheim, since the 2002 version is the neutered one. -- Ped Xing
Larry Lindstrom <[email hidden]> wrote in news:BaZ7c.73389$1p.1069062@attbi_s54: > Isn't setting car physics equal going to be a problem > for people who have honed their skills and setups for > Williams or some other car? See my response to Eldred. > I'm driving the original carset. I'd like to update > to 2004. Is this something that is done on an individual > basis? Or does this require all drivers use the same > carset? What carset do you folks recommend? As of now, there is only one 2004 update, and it's not a complete one. The car models weren't updated, just some skins, and driver names, etc. The RH and CTDP updates are in progress and will be released some time during the season. You can get the RH2003 update. Or the CTDP2003. But keep in mind, we are running in the 2002 season to make things easy for everyone. I would have preferred running RH2003 myself, but I guess some didn't want to have to deal with downloading extra stuff. If you are annoyed at the non-tobacco liveries for the 2002 season, there is an update for that. The only one I found is "high res" though, so maybe it would hurt your FPS. I have a powerful system so I use it. > Or Bathurst? That should be a challenging track. Hmm didn't you say in another thread that you can't even run on that track due to your system? -- Ped Xing
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Quoted text (8 lines)> It won't be an issue though, since most setups are tailored > for the Ferrari, and we'd be running Ferrari physics for all cars. > > What do the others think, sound good? > > -- > Ped Xing >
Does that mean I can bring my Mindardi??? dh
Ped Xing wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> Larry Lindstrom <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:BaZ7c.73389$1p.1069062@attbi_s54: > > >> Isn't setting car physics equal going to be a problem >>for people who have honed their skills and setups for >>Williams or some other car? > > > See my response to Eldred.
Hi Ped Xing: I'm wondering if a Williams driver might want to drive a Williams, for it's driving characteristics. Running all cars with Ferrari physics is fine. Either is Ok with me. I'm willing to run a second, or third, tier car, whatever the physics. I'm suggesting last season's winner have the first choice of team/driver, and we can work our way down the finish order.
Quoted text (10 lines)>> I'm driving the original carset. I'd like to update >>to 2004. Is this something that is done on an individual >>basis? Or does this require all drivers use the same >>carset? What carset do you folks recommend? > > > As of now, there is only one 2004 update, and it's not a complete one. > The car models weren't updated, just some skins, and driver names, etc. > The RH and CTDP updates are in progress and will be released some time > during the season.
I don't find the F1C carsets to be bad. Just wondering if a different carset could be run locally, without impacting other drivers. >> Or Bathurst? That should be a challenging track. > > > Hmm didn't you say in another thread that you can't even run on that > track due to your system? So what? Eldred isn't planning on racing with us that weekend, so I'll probably impose a 107% rule on myself, unless someone else sucks so bad I have some competition. I think it would be fun to watch you guys race Formula 1 cars over the dipper and through the esses at Bathurst. Ok, so where are we going? I like A1 too. Larry
Larry Lindstrom <[email hidden]> wrote in news:wxy8c.92851$po.719174@attbi_s52: > > I'm willing to run a second, or third, tier car, whatever > the physics. I'm suggesting last season's winner have the > first choice of team/driver, and we can work our way down > the finish order. So the strong get stronger. Why not reverse it ala the NFL? > >>> I'm driving the original carset. I'd like to update >>>to 2004. Is this something that is done on an individual >>>basis? Or does this require all drivers use the same >>>carset? What carset do you folks recommend? >> There is only 1 2004 carset out there now, it's the 2003 cars with 2004 liveries. FerrariF1fan I think is the website.
Quoted text (9 lines)>> >> As of now, there is only one 2004 update, and it's not a complete >> one. The car models weren't updated, just some skins, and driver >> names, etc. The RH and CTDP updates are in progress and will be >> released some time during the season. > > I don't find the F1C carsets to be bad. Just wondering > if a different carset could be run locally, without > impacting other drivers.
You might get away with Ferrari Fan's stuff since that is just paint. But if you use the RH mod or the CTDP mod then everyone else will need that mod. If you watch the online sessions on F1rst2, 90% of the F1 races use RH. > >>> Or Bathurst? That should be a challenging track. Find a version of Bathurst with a working pitlane and then float this idea. Bathurst is fun, when you have fenders to rub against those walls, not sure I'd like to take an openwheeler there.
Quoted text (14 lines)>> >> Hmm didn't you say in another thread that you can't even run on that >> track due to your system? > > So what? Eldred isn't planning on racing with us > that weekend, so I'll probably impose a 107% rule on > myself, unless someone else sucks so bad I have some > competition. > > I think it would be fun to watch you guys race > Formula 1 cars over the dipper and through the esses > at Bathurst. > > Ok, so where are we going? I like A1 too.
A1 is good if you don't want that Classic SteakSauce Flavor. The Johnny Walker Steak Sauce is a new contender for Beef garnishments. dave :) henrie > > Larry >
Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > So the strong get stronger. Why not reverse it ala the NFL? Ah but Mr. Henrie, the fast guys are already driving Ferrari (or McLaren). So what difference will it make to run as spec Ferraris? Anyway, it was just a suggestion so we could get some visual diversity on the grid. -- Ped Xing
Larry Lindstrom <[email hidden]> wrote in news:wxy8c.92851$po.719174@attbi_s52: > So what? Eldred isn't planning on racing with us > that weekend, so I'll probably impose a 107% rule on > myself, unless someone else sucks so bad I have some > competition. No we need more drivers, not less! -- Ped Xing
Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > A1 is good if you don't want that Classic SteakSauce Flavor. > The Johnny Walker Steak Sauce is a new contender for Beef > garnishments. Heh... by the way, why don't you run with us? -- Ped Xing
Ped Xing <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Xns94B8C85ABFAB8pedx1nglycoscom@ 140.99.99.130:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > >> A1 is good if you don't want that Classic SteakSauce Flavor. >> The Johnny Walker Steak Sauce is a new contender for Beef >> garnishments. > > Heh... by the way, why don't you run with us? >
Because when Eldred first started hosting this, my wife was sleeping in on Sunday mornings and I could run the F1 without interuptions. But all of the sudden she seems determined to wake up and go places, do things. dave henrie
Ped Xing wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (10 lines)> Larry Lindstrom <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:wxy8c.92851$po.719174@attbi_s52: > >> So what? Eldred isn't planning on racing with us >> that weekend, so I'll probably impose a 107% rule on >> myself, unless someone else sucks so bad I have some >> competition. > > No we need more drivers, not less! >
I keep *trying* to get to the computer on Sundays, but it has yet to work out. Is it the A1 track tomoorow for sure? I can only promise to try again to be there. Password unchanged, I hope? -- Darryl
Next week. David G Fisher "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rrh9c.40655$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> Ped Xing wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > > Larry Lindstrom <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:wxy8c.92851$po.719174@attbi_s52: > > > >> So what? Eldred isn't planning on racing with us > >> that weekend, so I'll probably impose a 107% rule on > >> myself, unless someone else sucks so bad I have some > >> competition. > > > > No we need more drivers, not less! > > > > I keep *trying* to get to the computer on Sundays, but it has yet to > work out. Is it the A1 track tomoorow for sure? I can only promise to > try again to be there. > > Password unchanged, I hope? > -- > Darryl

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